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2-3C was also my personal maximum. Now pretty much all tracks and racing series here have adopted 12A/20A max. charging/discharging rules. On the one hand that fits nicely for most people running shorty packs (them being in the 4000-6000 mAh range, resulting in 2-3C) while on the other hand for people using the bigger stick packs around 8000mAh, it's only 1.5C, but still ok with me. The 20A part however, I don't really get. I mean according to Hobbywing's spec sheets that's only half of what their G3 17.5T motor was able to pull. Half. Of a stock motor. Mod motors go into triple digits (their 5.0T motor is given as pulling 118A - and nobody is afraid of someone's Lipo being driven in Mod with such currents. But let's say a 40A discharge bank, that pulls a mere third of that is apparently to scarily dangerous to be legal anymore. I built mine myself, so it was only a couple of Euros in material and not much work at all, so it doesn't bother me, except I don't understand the reasoning behind it. But for people who bought these things ready made and who paid a whole lot more, this must suck...
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Originally Posted by Roelof
(Post 16052642)
…The 1C is just a safe rating but does not mean 2 or 3C can not be done but 10C ????? Nope, not my idea to try it.
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Originally Posted by DirkW
(Post 16052648)
2-3C was also my personal maximum. Now pretty much all tracks and racing series here have adopted 12A/20A max. charging/discharging rules. On the one hand that fits nicely for most people running shorty packs (them being in the 4000-6000 mAh range, resulting in 2-3C) while on the other hand for people using the bigger stick packs around 8000mAh, it's only 1.5C, but still ok with me. The 20A part however, I don't really get. I mean according to Hobbywing's spec sheets that's only half of what their G3 17.5T motor was able to pull. Half. Of a stock motor. Mod motors go into triple digits (their 5.0T motor is given as pulling 118A - and nobody is afraid of someone's Lipo being driven in Mod with such currents. But let's say a 40A discharge bank, that pulls a mere third of that is apparently to scarily dangerous to be legal anymore. I built mine myself, so it was only a couple of Euros in material and not much work at all, so it doesn't bother me, except I don't understand the reasoning behind it. But for people who bought these things ready made and who paid a whole lot more, this must suck...
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Originally Posted by staiguy
(Post 16052737)
I don’t know what voodoo protek does but almost all their batteries say 10c is safe. I don’t even have that much power in my power supply. I follow my r1 battery recommendation of 3c right before a race.
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
(Post 16052788)
That's a burst current. You'd want a sustained discharge current to be comparable to the average draw, not peak draw. If a mod motor was continuously drawing 118A then there's no way it would make a 5 minute run on a shorty.
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Originally Posted by DirkW
(Post 16052801)
Ok, let's go for an average draw then. Let's just assume they use up 3000-4000mAh in those 5 min. That would equal an average draw of 36-48A (if my math doesn't fail me here). So, actually around the same as with a resistor bank. So a 40A discharge (not talking about 40A charging here!) should still be perfectly safe, just as I don't consider running Mod class to be dangerous. Seems a bit randomly chosen...
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I dare say most chargers out of the box won't do even 10A, let alone 20A (even my trusty iCharger 406 Duo can only do 10A without external discharge bank - or maybe when used from a car battery, but I've never used it without a PSU). But is that really a good reason to outright ban anything outright? Maybe in a racing series, but on tracks, even for open practice? Doesn't convince me. Someone had an unnecessary idea and the horde blindly followed - at least that's my theory. You yourself have seen the myths spread by people who don't really understand electronics...:nod:
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It's more because it's 7.6 and it's Been through, more approvals.
Maybe better materials. HK though has good stuff. I've never had an issue with any of their stuff. I do know the battery you're talking about. But not the 7.6 battery. I have 2 of them that I use for my starter boxes. There are 4s though they work well and they're fairly old and they're still are going |
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