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Silverbullet555 03-26-2021 07:10 AM

Stuck pinion - puller or cut the collar
 
I had a pinion throw the set screw and it must've galled the shaft a bit as it is stuck with no set screw.

It's a nylon pinion molded on to an aluminum collar.

Option 1 is a pinion puller.
Option 2 is a dremel cut off wheel to split the collar.

Is there an option 3 I have not considered?

If not, is there a benefit or downside (other than a destroyed pinion) to option 1 vs 2?

rcbuggy88 03-26-2021 11:40 AM

If you pull it and the setscrew is stuck on, then you will put unnecessary lateral pressure on the front motor bearing (which may not matter but just know that that is the opposing force). I would just use a Dremel and be careful not to go too deep and hit the rotor. A pinion is a relatively cheap thing to replace. There are no other options that I've heard of.

glennhl 03-26-2021 12:15 PM

Actually, if you get the correct pinion puller, it pulls the gear off by pushing on the motor shaft. It does not put any load on the motor bearings.

Silverbullet555 03-26-2021 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by glennhl (Post 15769379)
Actually, if you get the correct pinion puller, it pulls the gear off by pushing on the motor shaft. It does not put any load on the motor bearings.


Originally Posted by rcbuggy88 (Post 15769368)
If you pull it and the setscrew is stuck on, then you will put unnecessary lateral pressure on the front motor bearing (which may not matter but just know that that is the opposing force). I would just use a Dremel and be careful not to go too deep and hit the rotor. A pinion is a relatively cheap thing to replace. There are no other options that I've heard of.

Both are true. If I get everything else done, I'll cut the collar. Amazon says they'll deliver a pinion puller tomorrow. Will I be patient, or ?????

joelwhite 03-26-2021 12:46 PM

Although you hope to never have to use it and it doesnt work for all scenarios, my pinion puller has been a great thing to have in the box. Id go that way.

Silverbullet555 03-26-2021 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by joelwhite (Post 15769387)
Although you hope to never have to use it and it doesnt work for all scenarios, my pinion puller has been a great thing to have in the box. Id go that way.

Yep. When you need one, they are nice to have.

purplegrape 03-26-2021 02:52 PM

I don't know if it's a stupid thing to do, but I'd try some penetrating oil with the motor on top and the pinion/shaft on the bottom. maybe an old film canister or empty toilet paper roll with chopsticks.

Tape off the motor with masking tape, and then gently pour or spray the pinion/shaft with the penetrating oil.

Then lightly try pulling it in a day or so.


cup racer 03-26-2021 08:55 PM

Stuck pinion
 
May I suggest the following:1)put oil in the pinion. 2)opened a pilers and clamp the smaller section of the pinion. 3) used a hammer to lightly tap the motor shaft .—— If the motor shaft doesn’t protrude put a drill bit in the hole from the top. But be very careful don’t hammer too hard or the drill bit would snap and don’t forget towear safety glass in case something happen.

Juglenaut 03-26-2021 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by cup racer (Post 15769529)
May I suggest the following:1)put oil in the pinion. 2)opened a pilers and clamp the smaller section of the pinion. 3) used a hammer to lightly tap the motor shaft .—— If the motor shaft doesn’t protrude put a drill bit in the hole from the top. But be very careful don’t hammer too hard or the drill bit would snap and don’t forget towear safety glass in case something happen.

This above works. Always uses safety if clamping does not work with taping, no worries.. move the collar a few degrees and lightly re clamp and tap., working the collar in the clamp moving it and re clamp etc. remove and if the collar is still stubborn..

To build on this, make a holder that fits the shaft out of a suitable (sacrificial) study fork, bend it to curve around and hold the collar and heat the collar up with a soldering iron or micro touch. Aluminum expands faster than steel and it timed right the collar will expand at the same time you pull on it with the modified fork.

Silverbullet555 03-26-2021 11:03 PM

Got it out. Was able to pull the motor and motor plate out. Configured some plyers in a way to let the shaft float and hold the pinion. Tapped on the motor shaft and then was able to pull it off. Would like to touch up the shaft a little with some emery cloth.

Juglenaut 03-27-2021 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Silverbullet555 (Post 15769549)
Got it out. Was able to pull the motor and motor plate out. Configured some plyers in a way to let the shaft float and hold the pinion. Tapped on the motor shaft and then was able to pull it off. Would like to touch up the shaft a little with some emery cloth.

Sounds awesome!


With it assembled to clean up the shaft I use a fine metal nail file with at least 3000 cst diff oil and a damp rag to wipe off the file.


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