Parallel charging vs. series charging
#31
Umm... man, I'm sorry, but you are starting to confuse me. I'm not sure why you think I said you don't need to balance two s2 packs but would need to balance one 4s pack. I did not say that, nor did I imply it in any way. I just went over everything I posted and I've been really clear, so I really have no idea what you are talking about at this point.
No, because you are still balancing them. The charger dictates the end voltage, not the way the pack is constructed. Assuming the balance lead is wired correctly and the charger is able to charge each cell independently, then the main contributor to how your packs balance is the charger. This is of course assuming the pack itself is healthy.
That's the whole point of balance-charging.
That's the whole point of balance-charging.
From iCharger manual:
On Balance mode, the charger will monitor the voltage of individual cells to control it within the Chg Cell Volt and equalize the voltage in all cells, to avoid some cell voltage over-charged or not full.
#32
....but why would it get balanced at a lower voltage? If it gets balanced at a lower voltage, it's user error... because the user selected a lower voltage. The iCharger does not make you select end voltage every time you charge. I've had a 306B since it came out.
Standard voltage for a LiPo battery is 4.20 volts. That's what any charger will default to, unless you manually change the setting. Unless there is a problem with your batteries, balancing the packs separately will have the same effect as balancing them together.
In balance mode, the charger applies voltage to the cell that needs it, then backs off and lets them equalize. The process is repeated till all cells maintain their target voltage for a predetermined period of time... and then your charger goes DING, and it's done.
Standard voltage for a LiPo battery is 4.20 volts. That's what any charger will default to, unless you manually change the setting. Unless there is a problem with your batteries, balancing the packs separately will have the same effect as balancing them together.
In balance mode, the charger applies voltage to the cell that needs it, then backs off and lets them equalize. The process is repeated till all cells maintain their target voltage for a predetermined period of time... and then your charger goes DING, and it's done.
#35
You must have some serious kit if every time you charge a battery its coming off the charger at precisely the same voltage and the same as all of your other batteries. You must have won the charger lottery and run those new unobtainium LiPos.
#37
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,410
From: Austin,TX
....but why would it get balanced at a lower voltage? If it gets balanced at a lower voltage, it's user error... because the user selected a lower voltage. The iCharger does not make you select end voltage every time you charge. I've had a 306B since it came out.
Standard voltage for a LiPo battery is 4.20 volts. That's what any charger will default to, unless you manually change the setting. Unless there is a problem with your batteries, balancing the packs separately will have the same effect as balancing them together.
In balance mode, the charger applies voltage to the cell that needs it, then backs off and lets them equalize. The process is repeated till all cells maintain their target voltage for a predetermined period of time... and then your charger goes DING, and it's done.
Standard voltage for a LiPo battery is 4.20 volts. That's what any charger will default to, unless you manually change the setting. Unless there is a problem with your batteries, balancing the packs separately will have the same effect as balancing them together.
In balance mode, the charger applies voltage to the cell that needs it, then backs off and lets them equalize. The process is repeated till all cells maintain their target voltage for a predetermined period of time... and then your charger goes DING, and it's done.
It's the amps that is different between 2S in parallel vs series... in parallel you need to double the amps in order to charge the pack in same amount of time as you would with 2S in series.
#40
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,410
From: Austin,TX
Tesla is far from perfect, they are forced to provide additional heat shields from all the fires started from the extremely dangerous battery configurations in their cars... shrug
https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/
#41
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,342
Tesla is far from perfect, they are forced to provide additional heat shields from all the fires started from the extremely dangerous battery configurations in their cars... shrug
https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/
https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/
#43
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Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,342
Tesla is far from perfect, they are forced to provide additional heat shields from all the fires started from the extremely dangerous battery configurations in their cars... shrug
https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/
https://abc7news.com/tesla-electric-...factory/21997/
I don't believe I've seen series connections of packs be an issue in a damage report. Some even include disconnect features in the connections to reduce the electrical hazard in crash events.
#44
Balancing a pack makes all the cells the same voltage. How exactly can a charger balance all 4 cells if you balance them separately? If you balance charge 2 2s batteries separately and run them as a 4s you won't have 4 balanced cells you will have two pairs of balanced cells.



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