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tnt2671 11-15-2020 07:55 PM

icharger X6 ?
 
can somebody link me to some simple directions on using this charger. been away from rc for a while ( last charger was a pitfbull ) and this thing has me kind of stumped going to be charging 2 cell lihv packs. do i have to set up all hte parameters that the usless manual show , how do i change charge rate on the fly etc ,
















Roelof 11-16-2020 01:09 AM

Is the manual realy useless? There is a huge X6 topic:

https://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-e...discharge.html

Also on youtube you will find many instruction movies.

billdelong 11-16-2020 04:51 AM

I agree that the iCharger is by far the least intuitive charger on the market, but it also boasts more features than any other charger for the price as well. Totally worth investing the time to read the manual and watch a few YT clips for any specific functions you need to learn how to operate.

tnt2671 11-16-2020 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by billdelong (Post 15715667)
I agree that the iCharger is by far the least intuitive charger on the market, but it also boasts more features than any other charger for the price as well. Totally worth investing the time to read the manual and watch a few YT clips for any specific functions you need to learn how to operate.

lol ya on paper it seemed great but man its definitely not the easiest to navigate and the ridiculous scroll button system is awful.
i'm not looking to do anything super complicated just charging a few 2 cell and i cell packs for my 2wd buggy and 1/12th scale. i hooked up my 2 cell pack and started a charge cycle it defaulted to charging at 2 amps i tried to adjust the charge rate up and couldnt even get it to do that via what i read in the manual nevermind if i have to setup all the parameters and set diferent models for the few packs i am charging i guess it might just be that im used to the older gen chargers but i did have an i chargerger 103 b back about 8 years ago and it was super simple to operate i guess this thing would be good for somebdy that really dives deep into there batteries but i like the keep it simple method and it seems this charger is def not that.

lexusbest 11-17-2020 01:33 AM

The x6 works by doing custom profiles. You should be running same batteries at the same scale, so a single profile should do that

billdelong 11-17-2020 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by lexusbest (Post 15716043)
The x6 works by doing custom profiles. You should be running same batteries at the same scale, so a single profile should do that

+1

Basically, spend the 20 min reading the manual, maybe watch a YT video to figure out how to set up the profile you need, then you'll never touch the profile settings again.

Going forward, I literally press 2 buttons on my 406 Duo... that's it, and the best part is that I don't have change cell counts, I use the same profile for my 2S, 3S and 4S packs, can't get any more simple than that, but it was a bitch to set up the profile the way I wanted... I also setup a custom cycling profile which took about an hour of trial and error, with the trade off that I know I can rely on this charger long term ;)

mushroomed 11-17-2020 08:00 AM

The X6 isn't intuitive, but the controls are simple. Scroll up, scroll down, hold up, hold down, short button press, long button press, That's it! Learn how the manual notes each of these presses and it gets easier. Try out the features as you go through the manual and you'll pick it up in no time.

To modify the charge current while a battery is charging, press and hold the up scroll for 1 second.

To change charge rate for a profile, highlight the charge profile you want to use and do a short press. Then, with the word 'charge' highlighted, do a long press to edit the charge settings. In the 'charge' settings, set the charge current you want to use.

To add a profile, when you are in the list of charge profiles just press and hold the button. Select 'Add'. Renaming your new profiles is a slight pain but worth it, even if just a short name. The manual describes the process, but if you are already tearing your hair out with this charger it might just cause more frustration! The default names for new profiles are still useful since they show the battery type and current so you can get away with just using them.

I add up a charge profile for each different battery that I run - either named after the battery or the vehicle it runs in. Not sure on your track, but our local track allows LIHV batteries but they have to be charged to 8.4V maximum. To achieve this on most chargers (X6 included), you'll need to use a 'Lipo' charge mode. I then also slightly increase the storage voltage to account for the LIHV preferring a higher storage charge.

Once you've made profiles, you can turn auto save off, that way any changes that you make to a profile before charging will revert back to your normal settings for the next charge. For example, you may have made a bump and need to charge faster than you normally would. With auto save off, you can edit the charge rate without it saving for the next charge in that profile.

tnt2671 11-19-2020 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by mushroomed (Post 15716121)
The X6 isn't intuitive, but the controls are simple. Scroll up, scroll down, hold up, hold down, short button press, long button press, That's it! Learn how the manual notes each of these presses and it gets easier. Try out the features as you go through the manual and you'll pick it up in no time.

To modify the charge current while a battery is charging, press and hold the up scroll for 1 second.

To change charge rate for a profile, highlight the charge profile you want to use and do a short press. Then, with the word 'charge' highlighted, do a long press to edit the charge settings. In the 'charge' settings, set the charge current you want to use.

To add a profile, when you are in the list of charge profiles just press and hold the button. Select 'Add'. Renaming your new profiles is a slight pain but worth it, even if just a short name. The manual describes the process, but if you are already tearing your hair out with this charger it might just cause more frustration! The default names for new profiles are still useful since they show the battery type and current so you can get away with just using them.

I add up a charge profile for each different battery that I run - either named after the battery or the vehicle it runs in. Not sure on your track, but our local track allows LIHV batteries but they have to be charged to 8.4V maximum. To achieve this on most chargers (X6 included), you'll need to use a 'Lipo' charge mode. I then also slightly increase the storage voltage to account for the LIHV preferring a higher storage charge.

Once you've made profiles, you can turn auto save off, that way any changes that you make to a profile before charging will revert back to your normal settings for the next charge. For example, you may have made a bump and need to charge faster than you normally would. With auto save off, you can edit the charge rate without it saving for the next charge in that profile.

thanks to all who took the time to explain this in detail!! I will do what your saying and hopefully with you guys help using this thing will be a little clearer. Thanks again to all and have a safe and happy thanksgiving!

duremars 11-19-2020 12:49 AM

Thanks for usefull information

Slashripper 07-26-2022 09:31 PM

8S battery as power source.
 
I know it can handle 32 volts, is it ok to use a 8S pack as a power supply and for regenerative discharging?

mrreet2001 07-27-2022 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Slashripper (Post 15924378)
I know it can handle 32 volts, is it ok to use a 8S pack as a power supply and for regenerative discharging?

7-32V DC, 8S will exceed that.

Sparrow99 08-04-2022 01:00 PM

Icharger X6
 
If you can’t find your way around the maual, then you should check YT, you’ll find videos that can help there

Slashripper 08-06-2022 06:20 AM

Using a 4s lipo for regenerative discharging.
 
When using a 4s lipo to heat cycle a 2s 5000 mah pack where should I have the 4s lipo's voltage at when starting single run heat cycling. Thanks.

Slashripper 08-07-2022 03:51 PM

Bump to previous question.

mushroomed 08-08-2022 07:06 AM

To figure this out, start by discharging (not just storage) your 2S pack while running from the power supply. Then fully charge your 4S pack also from the power supply.

Then switch to powering the charger from your 4S pack, note the input voltage and charge your 2S pack. Note the input voltage again the difference between your two voltage values will give you the approximate reduction or gain in your 4S pack over a charge/discharge cycle. If I were doing this I’d be aiming to keep the 4S input pack between 15-16V at all times through the cycle. This requires the 4S pack to be much higher in capacity than the 2S pack you’ll be charging.

When regenerative charging like this you’re charging the 4S pack without any balance connection, so there is potential for over or under charging if you’re not careful, and could ruin your battery or cause a fire with some minor lapse of attention. Set up the voltage limits in the power source settings menu, and be sure to switch to this profile.

Really though it is a better and safer idea to build or buy a discharge bank for fast discharging.


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