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Old 01-03-2020 | 09:44 AM
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Hey there RC Techies. Happy new year! New to the forum guy here, but I’ve been lurking sporadically for years. Thanks for all good info!!

I build and bash scalers/offroad trucks mostly, been doing some RWD drifting the last couple of years. Now I’m planning to get a Kyosho Outlaw Rampage Pro kit to play around with when my son drives his brushed Slash 4x4. Sticking a castle 3800kv motor in it, and I’m thinking about playing around with a gyro too.

I have a drifting gyro, the D-Like/Guild N One "Real Dri". Does anyone know enough about gyros (mmm, gyros) to give me some insight on how these high speed ones compare to your Losi AVCs, your Traxxas TSMs n whatnot?

Would appreciate as few "learn how to drive"-themed replies as possible, thx
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TSM, AVC etc are a different type of gyro compared to a drift gyro. The "stability systems" like TSM and AVC are head holding gyros, basically they make correction to ensure they are traveling in the same direction. Drift gyros are rate holding gyros which means they won't try to make your car go straight they'll just try to maintain whatever orientation you put it in. Ie maintain a drift. If you put TSM or AVC on a drift car they could constantly try to pull you out of the drift while a drift gyro helps maintain the drift. Hope that helps answer your question.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 01:59 PM
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TSM, AVC etc are a different type of gyro compared to a drift gyro. The "stability systems" like TSM and AVC are head holding gyros, basically they make correction to ensure they are traveling in the same direction. Drift gyros are rate holding gyros which means they won't try to make your car go straight they'll just try to maintain whatever orientation you put it in. Ie maintain a drift. If you put TSM or AVC on a drift car they could constantly try to pull you out of the drift while a drift gyro helps maintain the drift. Hope that helps answer your question.
Thank you DiSpencer. It helped a lot!
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Many years ago, I had experimented with drifting gyros (without heading hold) for both 2WD SCB and 4WD SCT classes that I was running at the time on loose pack dirt that was watered and would dry quickly in the summer... traction was very inconsistent. I found that when I started using the gyro that it gave me phenomenally better traction control... my 2WD SCB lap times were closing in on most of the 4WD SCT trucks at the time... it was definitely cheating and worked extremely well. KO Propo was one of the only high end radios at the time who offered integrated gyros in their Rx's, so you could easily adjust the gain from the 3rd/4th channel buttons. What I found to work best was about 10-15% gain on the steering and 0-5% gain on the throttle, if I went with too high of a gain that it would tend to cause more harm than good, and the amount of gain needed was dependent on how loose the track conditions were... in medium to high traction conditions, there was no benefit to using any gyro gain.
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Many years ago, I had experimented with drifting gyros (without heading hold) for both 2WD SCB and 4WD SCT classes that I was running at the time on loose pack dirt that was watered and would dry quickly in the summer... traction was very inconsistent. I found that when I started using the gyro that it gave me phenomenally better traction control... my 2WD SCB lap times were closing in on most of the 4WD SCT trucks at the time... it was definitely cheating and worked extremely well. KO Propo was one of the only high end radios at the time who offered integrated gyros in their Rx's, so you could easily adjust the gain from the 3rd/4th channel buttons. What I found to work best was about 10-15% gain on the steering and 0-5% gain on the throttle, if I went with too high of a gain that it would tend to cause more harm than good, and the amount of gain needed was dependent on how loose the track conditions were... in medium to high traction conditions, there was no benefit to using any gyro gain.
Haha, got’em! Very interesting. I just got my package today, definitely giving it a try. Not trying to grab any podium placements, though - and I’m staying brushed for now I think. Thanks for dropping the knowledge!
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