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Originally Posted by frewster
(Post 15655317)
I have used both the FGR4 and the FGR4S for 8th scale off road, nitro and electric. Even on larger tracks I never had issues with signal while using either receiver.
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Hey guys,
I own a Noble for almost a year now and I still like it alot. Recently I upgraded to the latest firmware. I also tried to upgrade the receiver's firmware, as I'm supposed to do, right? But I'm only getting a message, the firmware is already newer. That's a bit strange, because I only have four 1st gen receivers. They still work without a problem, but only in 2-way mode. In 1-way mode, I'm not able to bind the receivers, which used to work before the firmware update. Any advice or has somebody experienced similar things? Thanks, Andreas |
Originally Posted by andreas78
(Post 15655477)
I'm only getting a message, the firmware is already newer. That's a bit strange because I only have four 1st gen receivers. They still work without a problem, but only in 2-way mode. In 1-way mode, I'm not able to bind the receivers, which used to work before the firmware update.
So not all firmware updates have updates for the receivers. I upgraded to .85 from the previous version, and I also received the same message, but my receivers are V2. I saw that when you switch the receiver from 2 way to 1 way and then bind to a receiver. It never says that binding is complete and the progress bar just keeps going. I noticed that it did bind though. Through my testing, it looks like you have to make sure that you have the servo frequency set to analog or digital depending on your servos before you bind. Then start the binding process and wait about 30 seconds. Then disconnect power to the receiver on the vehicle and then end the binding on the transmitter. Remove the bind plug and power the receiver back up. The receiver should now be bound to the transmitter. It must be a bug that stops it from completing. Maybe I'll email them about it. If it binds, but throttle doesn't work and your steering servo is whining, then try changing the servo frequency again and rebind. during one of my tests, I was able to bind, but it bound with digital not analog servo settings. Changing the frequency and power cycling the receiver and then rebinding resolve the whining on the steering servo and got the throttle working. Again. The transmitter never shows binding complete. |
Wow, that was a really good answer. I could completely reproduce what you have described. I also think that this is a bug. But it can be seen by the blinking of the receiver's led, that the binding process worked.
Thanks a lot for your help! Andreas |
Originally Posted by andreas78
(Post 15656604)
Wow, that was a really good answer. I could completely reproduce what you have described. I also think that this is a bug. But it can be seen by the blinking of the receiver's led, that the binding process worked.
Thanks a lot for your help! Andreas |
I think that since you are going 1-way, the receiver can't tell the transmitter that it has completed. :blush:
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Well, but still, when I bind in 2-way mode, the servo reacts directly after the binding process is complete. Even with the bind plug still inserted and no off/on cycle of the receiver.
In 1-way mode, it doesn't, only after I turn off the receiver and turn it on again, the servo works. Andreas |
Originally Posted by Red141
(Post 15656887)
I think that since you are going 1-way, the receiver can't tell the transmitter that it has completed. :blush:
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So I received my Noble early last week and I must say, I'm blown away by this radio after having spent some time with it. Radios like this are the wave of the future and it boggles the mind to think someone will pay the same money for a radio like the DX5 Rugged. I'm not here to start a flame war, it's just an observation.
These are just my early observations in the event someone is considering it: -This radio makes my older radios, including my current, the Lynx 4s, look and feel like giant bricks. -The radio feel is fantastic and the quality is on flagship level. The plastics feel great, no Lynx 4S nor GT3B type of plastic here. Plastics on my 4PX and 7PX felt fantastic, didn't feel like the radios would crumble in a fall. -Once you go touch screen, it's hard to go back to "dial" type systems. It's one of the things I missed when I sold my 7PX and picked up the Lynx 4S. In case you're wondering why I picked up the Lynx 4S, it's because the telemetry system was MUCH cheaper than with the 7PX and it works FLAWLESS, even today. The Proton 4 with built in GPS works phenomenal! If you can find it, Hitec seems to be on it's way out. -Sunlight washes out the screen on the Noble NB4, you'll have to find some shade or cover the screen with your hand if you need to look at the screen. However, it was the same in the case of my 4PX and 7PX and those radios were over double the price. The off-center viewing angles on both the 4PX and 7PX were terrible but not unreadable. There is no difference in off-center screen readability with the Noble. Older LCD technology displays like the ones in a 4PV/4PLS/Lynx 4s, etc generally have zero sunlight readability issues. -The wheel drop down is not as aggressive as with other radios that have it as an option, my buddy felt it can't be called a drop down in the first place lol. I have no problem with it and having the ability to swing the entire steering assembly is much nicer than I expected. I actually keep the wheel at an angle, sort of like the angled adapters that are available for Futaba and I find it very comfortable. Early cons: -I have the throttle spring adjusted all the way to it's firmest setting but it's still kinda on the soft side for me so I'll have to open the radio up at some point and see what I can do about that, I don't know if there is a firmer spring available. -If I wanted to perform dual ESC mixing, I wouldn't be sure how to do it on this radio. It's not as simple as with other radios I have used, like the 7PX which has it nicely laid out. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying there is a mixing menu which would require me to look at the manual to make sense of. Steering mixing for crawlers are a breeze though and nicely laid out. -There is an "inactivity alarm" that goes off after a 5 minute timer. I don't see anyway to disable it and I find it real annoying. I'd rather have my battery go dead than to be forced to hear to that alarm. -There is no "display only" mode (aka RF off) like with so many other mid tier to flagship radios. Not a HUGE deal breaker but something I use ALL the time when messing around in the radio setting or setting up a new model and model settings before I actually make my final adjustments. Can save from an embarrassing moment too when out in the field.....speaking from experience. More to come as I get more usage out of the radio. If the screen were 4" or maybe 4.5", It could only imagine how Flysky would use the extra real estate! I loved having the time displayed on my 7PX, some might not get it since one almost always has a watch/cell phone on but I liked it, especially 24hr time....the only way to tell time! |
Throttle on calibration is stuck after power is turned on
Originally Posted by frewster
(Post 15445609)
I'm not sure if anyone here has an NB4 but I got mine last week and figured I'd start a thread for it.
Mine came with the large HV RX that has an external antenna, the FGr4 as well as the much smaller FGr4S that has an internal antenna and only supports up to 8.4V instead of 18V. The FGr4S doesn't have the range the FGr4 has but it's easily less than half the size and it's nice not having an antenna. So far I'm really happy with mine. The build quality is great. Most of it is aluminum with the exception of the trigger, grip, and some of the trim wheels. I'm not a lefty so it isn't that important to me but the wheel can be moved to either side. It seems like people are worried about the wheel staying in place since it doesn't lock into position but it has a good amount of resistance and I haven't had it move at all while driving. The telemetry is nice and I have a temperature and voltage sensor on the way to further test it. All of the buttons are rebindable. I've got a couple controlled a lap/race timer and another to toggle 10% throttle when I start the engine - not completely necessary but nice to have. The batteries seem to last forever... it barely dropped in voltage over a few hours of practice and you can detach the base battery since there's a 2600mAh 18650 in the handle that can power the TX by itself. This makes it quite a bit lighter as the base battery has an aluminum case and has some heft to it. Receivers seem to be going for $25-30 which is more than usual for FlySky but seems reasonable considering the telemetry. Unfortunately the NB4 does *not* work with older receivers so you will have to replace them if you already run a FlySky radio. The radio itself seems to be going for $170-220 right now. So far I think it's definitely worth the money but we'll see how it holds up. Feel free to discuss or ask questions in this thread. FAQs from MrOflam Had a little bit of time this morning, thought I would try to work on a FAQ for this thread. Feel free to add to first post, or w/e lol Does it really have 3ms latency? Has this been independently verified? Flysky's website currently claims "Under 3ms Latency". Actually measuring latency is a lot more complicated than one might think, and to date we are not aware of anyone that has tried to do it. There are however high speed videos online where people compare it to other radios. There are also numerous personal accounts of the radio having a high sense of being connected while in use. youtube video youtube video Is latency lower if operating in 1 way communication? Supposedly, yes. How much lower? No one knows. Is it true the steering wheel breaks off? To my knowledge there were very few cases of broken steering wheels, and they were able to be either replaced or repaired. This minor perceived defect has possibly been the biggest worry among people looking at possibly purchasing an NB4. IMO its a very insignificant issue, that seems to be far from wide spread. Don't let it bother you. Do I need to make sure I get at least version 2 of the receivers? I heard/read that there were issues with the first batch. There have been a few reports about bad receivers, all seemed to be in the 1st generation. This (much like the steering wheel) didn't seem to be a hugely wide spread issue, and it's been long enough (and stock has been depleted in the mean time), that it seems like a safe bet that gen 1 receivers aren't even out for retail any more. But you may want to check just to be safe, and for peace of mind. The second version of the FGr4 say "V2" on them. There may be even newer ones out in the wild, as V2s have been around about 9-10 months as of writing this. Issues with twitchy steering, chattering servos. You can select in the settings on the NB4 either "digital" or "analogue" for the steering servo frequency. By default it is set to digital. Some non-digital servos will take issue with this and chatter (quickly rotate small amounts back and forth). Changing the setting to analogue can fix this. Alternatively, you can adjust the frequency as well to tune this issue. Does the rotating arm of the steering wheel move unintentional? I have yet to see anyone claim that it does, its pretty stiff. And after more than a year of me moving it to flat to put in a case and taking it out and moving it to drive position, etc, repeat, its still stiff. Do I need to update the receiver if I update the radio's firmware. Yes, every time you update, you will have to do this. Its a very simple process. Will I lose saved models if I upgrade firmware? Yes, as of writing this you will. But, good news, firmware version 2.0.83 introduced an import/export function. It requires a computer program that (as of writing this) is unavailable, but flysky claims would be released in the month of April. Do I need to update the firmware? No, updating firmware is not a requirement. You will not however benefit from any added functionality that may be introduced via firmware upgrades. How many channels does the NB4 support? Latest firmware support up to 8 channels. In the settings you can select either 4, 6 or 8. Will future updates allow backwards comparability with AFHDS protocols (FS-GR3E receivers)? No, this is not likely. Flysky has stated that due to hardware differences, this is not possible. I'm having an issue, evrytime I power up my car wants to go, because i noticed the stick calibration goes on 100% throttle. Been at this all day. I have to recalibrate the remote everytime. Sometimes it just gets stuck on 100% throttle. Please help |
Originally Posted by RodRC
(Post 15657560)
Throttle getting stuck
I'm having an issue, evrytime I power up my car wants to go, because i noticed the stick calibration goes on 100% throttle. Been at this all day. I have to recalibrate the remote everytime. Sometimes it just gets stuck on 100% throttle. Please help I'm new to this radio but the folks in here could use some more info like: How old is the radio? What firmware version are you on? Did you update anything recently leading up to this moment? Does the radio do this with just one of RX or all the RX you have? Are you sure you didn't accidentally somehow setup a failsafe? I would probably re-flash the software. |
Has .85 current software, and havent ran yet since covid . I got in January. I dont even need to turn on car. When I let radio sit for awhile , I turn back on and go to stick calibration and I can see throttle is at 100%. That's why when I turn car back on it just goes.
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V2 Fgr4s
It is also the latest reciever FGr4s
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Originally Posted by RodRC
(Post 15657899)
Has .85 current software, and havent ran yet since covid . I got in January. I dont even need to turn on car. When I let radio sit for awhile , I turn back on and go to stick calibration and I can see throttle is at 100%. That's why when I turn car back on it just goes.
Finally, I'm not sure where you are located but if you flashed the non FCC .85 then try the FCC version to see how that goes. Could be an issue with a corrupted version of .85. |
Thank you
I flashed the standard 85, but this happened before, when I got it was 79. I'm wondering if somehow its reading something when the my car is running , maybe from ESC on car? Than when I turn off it has a bad calibration in memory? It runs fine , when I recalibrate the stick after a few minutes to try to get it back to normal. This so weird, I like radio but it's new havent even taken to track
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