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monsterjamman24 12-10-2017 01:36 PM

LIHV question
 
What is the correct LIHV storage voltage? My charger has an option but it seems high.

Like charging could I just use the standard lipo 8.4v storage discharge?

I searched around and couldn't seem to find anything real definitive. (maybe I just missed it)

jasburrito 12-10-2017 01:44 PM

Same as a normal Lipo. I think the hv Lipo thing is kinda a gimmick. Pretty sure standard lipos can be over charged too. It's within there specs. Airplane guys have done it for years. So your standard Lipo is let's say 4600mah. They just call it hv 5000mah. I think it's like adding 400/600 mah. But whatever

Gramps50 12-11-2017 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by jasburrito (Post 15100278)
Same as a normal Lipo. I think the hv Lipo thing is kinda a gimmick. Pretty sure standard lipos can be over charged too. It's within there specs. Airplane guys have done it for years. So your standard Lipo is let's say 4600mah. They just call it hv 5000mah. I think it's like adding 400/600 mah. But whatever

LIHV's have 3.9v per cell as opposed to 3.7v of a normal lipo. I would think that a safe storage charge would be the same a a regular lipo

Slashripper 07-17-2018 04:34 PM

How about charging lihv packs beyong 4.35 volts per cell, say 4.36 or 4.37 for a little extra power?

riceball777 07-19-2018 01:17 AM

i wouldent do that. The 4.35v is high enough

urnotevenwrg2 07-19-2018 02:19 PM

The newest iCharger software can go up to 4.4v per cell. I doubt they would allow that if it completely ruins batteries and causes fire.

LzREngineering 07-19-2018 02:26 PM

On some older chargers that aren't LiHV capable the storage voltage is actually too low. My nosram LiHV pack says 'dont discharge below 3.3v/cell' whereas normal lipos have a 3.0v minimum

eR1c 07-19-2018 03:55 PM


The newest iCharger software can go up to 4.4v per cell. I doubt they would allow that if it completely ruins batteries and causes fire.
Uh, I wouldn't push it, I've seen at least 3 batteries catch fire during a race or at a pit table. I am positive it was due to over-charging. Sure, some guys will push it and try to get that extra punch from their battery ...but its a serious risk. Its pretty obvious when a battery goes up as to why.

urnotevenwrg2 07-19-2018 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by eR1c (Post 15264290)
Uh, I wouldn't push it, I've seen at least 3 batteries catch fire during a race or at a pit table. I am positive it was due to over-charging. Sure, some guys will push it and try to get that extra punch from their battery ...but its a serious risk. Its pretty obvious when a battery goes up as to why.

Did you set up these peoples chargers or check to see what they were charging to? Were they HV batteries? How old were these batteries? What was their IR numbers of the packs? How much capacity had these packs lost?

​​​​Pushing the limits of battery technology requires responsibility and a very good understanding of what to look for to stop using the battery before it goes into thermal runaway. Some people have a difficult time with attention to detail, these people do not pay attention to the signs to stop using a battery.

If these guys have older packs and got a new high power charger to try to be competitive, then yeah high power charging is going to be dangerous.

Here is new research that shows occasional high current cycling is good for the battery.

smirkracing 07-28-2018 11:18 PM

My hitec charger sets storage charge at 3.9v per cell when in LiHV mode.

Racecarguy 07-29-2018 11:11 AM

On the i charger, did/have they make a profile for the Liev acts?

urnotevenwrg2 07-29-2018 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Racecarguy (Post 15269834)
On the i charger, did/have they make a profile for the Liev acts?


I presume you mean LiHV? If so, yes the newest software creates a LiHV profile, and let's you set the end voltage to 4.4v per cell.

Racecarguy 08-02-2018 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by urnotevenwrg2 (Post 15269871)
I presume you mean LiHV? If so, yes the newest software creates a LiHV profile, and let's you set the end voltage to 4.4v per cell.

which version software has LiHv settings? I'll have to double check my 2 that I have,,, don't remember seeing LiHv as an option

Chris Brown 08-02-2018 10:58 AM

The newest icharger software has lihv settings. I believe its version 2.18. When you go in to the battery type, it'll have lihv as an option and allow you to set the cutoff voltage to 4.4v per cell.

Racecarguy 08-02-2018 04:48 PM

Found the LiHv settings...guess I just had to look down the list more.


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