Mega,novarossi,or..................?????
 

what should i get???should not exceed usd 300:D

Max Power (By Massimo Fantini) either 3 port or 5 port. You can go with the basic model (called 312 and 512) based on the NS3, but with light modifications. Great motor at the price point.

You can visit www.rcmaxpower.com for more info.

John

how much???how reliable???how powerful???is it better than the mega or nova???sorry for asking that ammount of questions.i just want to buy the best engine within my budget:D

if you are on a tight budget and want to get an engine that is reliable and will last a while for your $300, any novarossi based engine is good for you. the max is a very good engine. the new mega (made by pico) is a very fast engine, and the upfront cost is also good (about $260 for engine and pipe). but it will cost more to run this engine. you have to change the conrod about every gallon ($30 a conrod). the conrods to break and they can also cause internal damage to the engine, which will ruin it. also, they are having air leak issues. until they get these issues resolved, i woul go with the novarossi engine.

Go for Nova 12RRL5. long stroke. dis engine are less dan 300$. see picture in my website.(www.dogboneind.com)

is this the max engine ????? :deathstar

yes that is. actually the engine i like the best and think is the fastest is the mugen x12. it is the same thing, the novarossi rs12s3. but for whatever reason, i like the way it runs.

The mugen is not an Rs. It is basically the Ns12

that's what i meant.

Remember that the Max Power engine will be faster than the X12. It has a modified crank and some other work. Also remember that the X12 is long stroke. Great for short tracks compared to a stock engine, but on a longer straight you will see the difference compared to the Max night and day.

Are you sure? Then the X12 should be the same as RRL12 engines then and not based on NS12 (short stroke)... :confused:

d, ugpm

The Mugen X12 is not based on the RRL Novarossi engines. It is an NS12 based engine.
It is referred to as a long stroke engine because the bore (piston/sleeve diameter) is less than the stroke, in this case 13.80 mm x 14.04 mm
The RR12L engines have a 13.70 mm bore x 14.25 mm stroke, which makes this engine a longer stroke engine. As far as I know, there are no other engines like this model, except for the yet to be released new Novarossi N12LL models.

These RR12L3 or RR12L5 engines are awesome on a short track and have loads of low end torque and have been extremely reliable for me.
Another awesome engine to give consideration to is the Collari LC12 by Werks racing. This thing winds and pulls like nothing else I've tried and uses AAC construction to boot.

Thanks for the confirmation.

I guess we should use relative terminology here to differentiate them both... For me, "short" stroke always referred to the NS/NSR and the "long" stroke was always the MT12 and RRL12 engines.

Yes, I find them really reliable too. You can actually make them scream at the top too if you smoothen and alter the crankshaft window timings. :nod:

How long have you used them? Do they last?

I have the rr12l3 engine and as the posts above stated, low end acceleration is fantastic!!! I have an rs4-3 converted to just run short track parking lots. I would highly recommend this engine as once its broken in, it runs like a clock!! I run mine with no restrictor at 30% blue thunder with the #5 spark plug leaned more for low end than high. No flameouts and gets great run time.
Currently waiting for the OS 12TZ that may perform same as the rr12l3 but much cheaper...

Re: Werks Collari LC12

I have only just begun to use this engine this season and have no long term experience with them. I live in Toronto, Canada, so the season is only just underway here now.
I have done some test runs with it and the break in was by far the easiest experience I have ever had with any nitro engine.
I have always been a Nova based engine fan and this is my first time stepping outside the box to try something different.

I first saw this engine used last season at the ROAR Nats in Toledo by Josh Cyrul and his car had unreal power on the track. In my opinion he had more engine than Swauger and both of them had far more than Hara.

We'll see how it goes long term, but I have yet to hear anything bad about them from anyone or read anything negative on any forums anywhere.

I look forward to seeing how this engine performs long term compared to my Rody V12, NovaMax and regular NovaRossi engines. For the money though, it seems hard to beat.

i have one word for you Ridzwan: Novarossi.

one more word (if your on a budget): Mega ZX12 5port (ok 3 words hehe)

:D i havent decide yet.hey guys,is it true that the mega needs to replace the conrod every 1 galon???:weird: :confused:

hi ntc....first of all from my point of view u shouldn't get carried away with the impression if u have a powerful engine it is good for u (i'm not saying they r bad too..by all means go get them if u really want them.)...l..but to win races u have to finished the race.....to finished the race u have too be constantly good in every dept. i.e. setting,tuning,driving,tire choices etc....there's ppl winning / getting good resultds in club level races without having to have the best engine and so on....just my opinion...cheers:D ;)

hey.thanks for ur comment.i also feel like u.but my os engine is up for sale.so i dun have an engine.im not looking for the best.but good enuff to keep up with the others.power is nothing without control:D .im not getting a jp engine or top end modified max engine.just want a standard engine.i know maybe someone might suggest to get a brand new os again.but i want to try something else.that is the point of this thread:sweat:

good to hear ur thinking that way...anyway most italian base motors r good enough no matter what the brand is;) :D good hunting...and remember the "proper 'break in process' determine the life and performance of your motor...cheers and enjoy:)

The max power Modified has what you mentioned not the stock Max engines which are the same as the NS novarossi

The X12 is not long stroke it is based on the NS12 which isnt long stroke.

yeah.i'll ask tomato to run it in for me.keep the comments and ideas coming guys

personally, if i was in the market for a new engine, i would by a x12 modified by mournan... they scream. it will be over your price range, i do not know for sure how much they are... i guess probaly $380 or so. there is a mournan modified engine thread in the regular nitro section, it has many comments. his engines are super fast. it would be worth the couple extra dollars.

TRAJ,

Hate to break it to you but the "stock" Max engines still has modifications to the crank and the bore intake...there is a noticeable difference with the Max and the Novarossi NS series.


John

P.S. Take a look at the crank...does it look stock TRAJ? And this motor can be had for $325US.

http://www.rcmaxpower.com/en/products/motori.asp?id=79

Novacranks have work done aswell

The only difference is the red putty which some stock rex engines have

Traj,

That is nowhere near a stock crank......if you say nova cranks have work done as well I would love to know what models exactly you are talking about...this is news to me. please include links.

Thanks,

John

Yes and I think it also include the 11 fins heatsink instead of 9

lolz :lol:

guys,i wonder if i should buy the mega zx12???price is very nice.and spares very cheap too.so any comments???it comes with exhaust,which adds up to the value:D