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ntc3freak 02-12-2005 04:09 AM

My Next Engine
 
can someone suggest an engine for me???i want it to be .12 size and 5 ports.and dont suggest expensive ones.:lol: :lol: :lol:

nitro_D 02-12-2005 04:37 AM

OS 12-TR(P)-T. Its five ports and turbo plus its reasobly priced.

ntc3freak 02-12-2005 05:28 AM


Originally posted by nitro_D
OS 12-TR(P)-T. Its five ports and turbo plus its reasobly priced.


i have that.not fast enough:p :p

TRAJ 02-12-2005 05:38 AM

STS D5R Dragon Modified

Alot faster than OS

http://rc-mushroom.com/product_info....oducts_id=4125

suntok2 02-12-2005 06:08 AM


Originally posted by ntc3freak
i have that.not fast enough:p :p
RR12L5A1 long stroke by Novarossi, please visit my website to see some pictures and race report(www.dogboneind.com)

afm 02-12-2005 06:19 AM

Re: My Next Engine
 

Originally posted by ntc3freak
can someone suggest an engine for me???i want it to be .12 size and 5 ports.and dont suggest expensive ones.:lol: :lol: :lol:
Best performance-cost relationship....... definetly

STS Racing Dragon D5R factory modified

This engine will give the run for their money to any high cost engine

AFM

20 SMOKE 02-12-2005 06:42 AM

Re: Re: My Next Engine
 

Originally posted by afm
Best performance-cost relationship....... definetly

STS Racing Dragon D5R factory modified

This engine will give the run for their money to any high cost engine

AFM

AFM that might be to much for that car he want's to keep it one peice :lol: j/k

suntok2 02-12-2005 09:18 AM

Re: My Next Engine
 

Originally posted by ntc3freak
can someone suggest an engine for me???i want it to be .12 size and 5 ports.and dont suggest expensive ones.:lol: :lol: :lol:
Try this enginehttp://www.dogboneind.com/Assets/ima...eed-Engine.jpg

ntc3freak 02-12-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Re: My Next Engine
 

Originally posted by suntok2
Try this enginehttp://www.dogboneind.com/Assets/ima...eed-Engine.jpg



what engine is that?:sweat:

nitro_D 02-12-2005 05:36 PM

I think its a modified engine by Mspeed

isuzuguy 02-12-2005 07:40 PM

engine
 
where can you get the m speed motors?

nitro_D 02-12-2005 08:13 PM

engine?
 
www.dogboneind.com


look up towards the top and itll show the werbsite posted by sumone else.

hurhur 02-12-2005 09:56 PM

Mspeed
 
Guys, for those of you who are interested in getting a Mspeed, pls pm me. I have a new Nova Mspeed .12 engine for sale. It is anodized in silver. Asking for USD350.

Derby Bros Racing 02-12-2005 10:01 PM

you can try www.rbmods.net

they have premodded engines and you won't be disappointed because they are ballistic fast motors and very reliable after modification.

afm 02-12-2005 10:26 PM

Re: My Next Engine
 

Originally posted by ntc3freak
..........................dont suggest expensive ones.:lol: :lol: :lol:
afm

ntc3freak 02-12-2005 11:51 PM


Originally posted by evlhdlts
you can try www.rbmods.net

they have premodded engines and you won't be disappointed because they are ballistic fast motors and very reliable after modification.




ur using one of those engines???how is it's durability???coz my fren said that rb engines dont last long.is it true with the modified version??

Derby Bros Racing 02-12-2005 11:58 PM

they last as long or even longer than stock motors. they run really strong too. but with any kind of motors, stock or modified, you have to take good care of the motor and don't overheat it too much or it will die early. this is true with any kind of motor.

au_Nightmare 02-16-2005 07:45 PM


Originally posted by TRAJ
STS D5R Dragon Modified
Alot faster than OS
http://rc-mushroom.com/product_info....oducts_id=4125

http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif Right on there, Thats my vote also.http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.rctech.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

HELLION 02-16-2005 10:49 PM

Fastest engine
 
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A Nova Rossi Da Hellion:sneaky: :lol: How ya doing Freak? Been awhile

ntc3freak 02-17-2005 05:26 AM

Re: Fastest engine
 

Originally posted by HELLION
A Nova Rossi Da Hellion:sneaky: :lol: How ya doing Freak? Been awhile


hey danny.why u never online????always offline.busy creating new shells???:sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky: and i might want to get ur d/h1 body soon.maybe next month or something like that.online at yahoo im la so we can work something out.or add me on msn.c ya later:D

HELLION 02-17-2005 11:42 AM

LOL
 
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I haven't had much time to be online latley .The 1/10 Pan cars guys have been keeping me pretty busy building bodies for them . I'm getting another CNC machine next week and am going to start building Nitro engines. I spend so much time modifying them I thought to myself it would be easier to build them that way to start with and I think machining a engine block will be a lot better then a cast one.Will see how that goes:lol:

EdwardN 02-17-2005 11:56 AM

Re: LOL
 

Originally posted by HELLION
I haven't had much time to be online latley .The 1/10 Pan cars guys have been keeping me pretty busy building bodies for them . I'm getting another CNC machine next week and am going to start building Nitro engines. I spend so much time modifying them I thought to myself it would be easier to build them that way to start with and I think machining a engine block will be a lot better then a cast one.Will see how that goes:lol:
Welcome to the family:D :D :D
BTW, casted case is much better then machined. Ufortunately you will not listen my advice, so you will spend so much time for nothing:nod: :nod: :nod:
If you need help in designs, I can guyd you .
Edward

HELLION 02-17-2005 09:44 PM

cast?
 
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Ok Gun guide me! I would love to hear you explanation of why you would take a cast block over a machined. Bear in mind now you know what I use to do for a living. I think you are confusing better with cheaper A cast block is mearley a shape of a engine block it still has to be machined. and I have built them before but this time I want to squezzz every bit of power out of it I can. Do your home work :sneaky:

soc123_au 02-17-2005 10:17 PM

This is only a guess, but I imagine a cast block would be lighter & offer better cooling properties than machined. Also cast you could get the exact composition of alloys. A machined block would look awsome I must admit.

Good luck with the new project, I followed the Should I make this thread from the begining & you silenced the critics on that one, so why should this be different. I would like to give one of your bodies a go but they arent legal in the class I run in.

ntc3freak 02-18-2005 03:38 AM

Re: cast?
 

Originally posted by HELLION
Ok Gun guide me! I would love to hear you explanation of why you would take a cast block over a machined. Bear in mind now you know what I use to do for a living. I think you are confusing better with cheaper A cast block is mearley a shape of a engine block it still has to be machined. and I have built them before but this time I want to squezzz every bit of power out of it I can. Do your home work :sneaky:


hey danny,izzit just me or the body looks better when they are mold.:D :D

HELLION 02-18-2005 07:47 AM

hmmmmmmmmm
 
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I was just looking at my last post and I hope it isn't taken wrong I surely was not taken a shot at Top gun I know him from a while back and I think he is very good at what he does and I could have worded that better and I am always open to suggestens. OK here is my thinking on the machined block : The heat characteristics of high grade forged stock would be a lot better then cast as far as weight goes it would be lighter depending on the machinist and the tolerances are again much closer then you could ever get from a cast block that's why a cast block has to be machined after they are cast and the cast block wouldn't be nearley as strong. The only disadvantage of the machined block is it wouldn't be cost effective to do on a large scale production. I am basing this on my past experience on real race cars where you won't see casted parts on the engines . And I'm getting way to many requests for ROAR legal bodies so I'm gona bite the bullet and build some after I recover from my dizziness from building pancar bodies :lol:

EdwardN 02-18-2005 07:52 AM

Re: cast?
 

Originally posted by HELLION
Ok Gun guide me! I would love to hear you explanation of why you would take a cast block over a machined. Bear in mind now you know what I use to do for a living. I think you are confusing better with cheaper A cast block is mearley a shape of a engine block it still has to be machined. and I have built them before but this time I want to squezzz every bit of power out of it I can. Do your home work :sneaky:
You sound like you realy know what are you planning to do, so it doesn't seems like you will need my help.
BTW, casted is better due to the chemistry can be altered to aplication and machined will not have that tech properties as need it.
Show us your samples!!!!!!!!! But please don't show modded parts (I am tired to see new design which is actualy modded parts from real manufacturers), show your design. May be then I can sugest you something.
Edward

HELLION 02-18-2005 11:48 AM

Sampels?
 
My little CNC machine won't be here till next week so I don't have any samples. That and I would make sure that it was a working unit before I would post samples. This is just something I have been wanting to do for a long time and now I will be able too. and Top gun do you really believe a casted piece would be better then a forged piece I can give you a list of reasons a forged piece would be better (a lot better) the only advantage of a cast piece that I can think of is cost. To me casting is low technology compared to forging. A simple example would be a fan out of a turbo charger Or here's a better example let's say you want to soop up the real car you are driving by building the engine for high performance. The high performance pistons you would use would be forged . The pistons that where in your engine that are now probley in the trash can are cast pistons :nod:

EdwardN 02-18-2005 12:34 PM

Re: Sampels?
 

Originally posted by HELLION
My little CNC machine won't be here till next week so I don't have any samples. That and I would make sure that it was a working unit before I would post samples. This is just something I have been wanting to do for a long time and now I will be able too. and Top gun do you really believe a casted piece would be better then a forged piece I can give you a list of reasons a forged piece would be better (a lot better) the only advantage of a cast piece that I can think of is cost. To me casting is low technology compared to forging. A simple example would be a fan out of a turbo charger Or here's a better example let's say you want to soop up the real car you are driving by building the engine for high performance. The high performance pistons you would use would be forged . The pistons that where in your engine that are now probley in the trash can are cast pistons :nod:
Hellion.
I would suggest you first start from make piston/sleeve set ( whatever you want to use there-casted, forged, glued etc). Then I would recomend try to make cranckshaft, then last step will be crancase.
I think you little bit underestimated my abilities.:D :D :D
What are you learning now, I pass succesfully about 20 years ago. You are talking about high performance pistons for race cars and this is nothing to compare pistons from military tanks. Those made by powder metall technology ( now known as MCP). We went through it long time ago.
One more thing I will sugest you-don't convert real car's engines and designs to our stuff. Our stuff is realy complecated and it is not that easy as it looks like. Don't waist your time trying to use the same technology from real cars racing in RC-will not work.
I realy respect you for trying create something yours, just try to warn you-we did all this stuff in the past-don't make our mistakes.
About crancases-there is much more invole then you can immaging. In real car if the case is screwcked-you will never fill it ( due to the tolerances) and in our cases if screwcked 0.01 mm-it is realy big deal. Not every Al alloy wich has suitable tech properties for crancases will be easy to forge.
Any way, welcome to motor world. let me know when you are going to need real help, not just blah-blah and I will help you.
Edward

HELLION 02-18-2005 02:43 PM

yep
 
What ever you say Edward

EdwardN 02-18-2005 02:56 PM

Re: yep
 

Originally posted by HELLION
What ever you say Edward
Aha!;) ;) ;)

EdwardN 02-18-2005 05:15 PM

Re: geeez
 

Originally posted by HELLION
I was trying to be nice by saying top gun is good at what he does and I ment it . The fact is what he is so good at is BULL SHI**** :lol: When I said do your home work Edward I ment it . I would normally laugh this guy off but there are guys in here that want to learn! I'm sure Edward will have a snappy comeback but like I said he is a good talker:lol:
Will be no snappy comeback.
I was accuse in the past that I am talking BS, but so far whatever I promised I did. About my homework-I do it every day.
Edward

nitrodude 02-18-2005 06:55 PM

Hellion, what machine are you getting? ALso are you a machinist? Im just asking.

ntc3freak 02-18-2005 08:50 PM

what on earth are u guys talking about???:lol: :lol: :sweat: :D

HELLION 02-18-2005 09:39 PM

machinist
 
OK at the risk of sounding way old I was a machinist and fabricator 24 years ago. My friend has a machine shop and I'll go play over there once in a while. I have 2 CNC machines that I built one with a rotary both are retrofitted with compumotor Indexes ,drives steeper motors I have boxes of so it depends on how hard I push them I like Mach1 & 2 They are both feeling there age like me so 0 lash is pretty much nonexistent that and they are a little too big to do a RC engine. The one I'm going to try next week is a Sherline 5410 with Flashcut. I woulden't use it for large production but it should do what I need it to do . And I also just bought a CNC lathe on Ebay but Im not expecting a lot from it for what I paid for it LOL >>> to tierd to check my spelling Not that it would matter

HELLION 02-19-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Re: cast?
 

Originally posted by ntc3freak
hey danny,izzit just me or the body looks better when they are mold.:D :D
HUH???:confused:

ntc3freak 02-20-2005 05:40 AM

Re: Re: Re: cast?
 

Originally posted by HELLION
HUH???:confused:


i mean when they are in the molding proccess.:D

HELLION 02-22-2005 07:55 AM

I don't know
 
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I think they look better when they are leading the pac:sneaky:

jrabbito 02-22-2005 08:48 AM

ntc3freak - Let me ask some question here. If you are still looking at getting a motor then please answer them. I think this will help people help you.

1. Are you planning on Racing ROAR events?
2. How much experience do you have RACING in nitro?
3. What level of competition are you competing at?
4. What is your budget?
5. Do you regularly maintain the motor? (conrod, sleeves, piston, etc)

The reasons I ask this is because the answer will lead you in a better direction. Eg. If you are racing ROAR events then you can immediately rule out anyhting other than 3 ports...etc etc...

look forward to your answers.

Ciao,

John

P.S. I know he posted he was looking for a 5 port but maybe he doesn't know that they aren't legal at ROAR events.

HELLION 02-22-2005 08:58 AM

o o
 
:weird: You mean ROAR only allows 3 ports???? oooops:sneaky:


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