Ns12s3 questions.
#1
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Joined: May 2002
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From: Toronto, Canada.
I just bought a used ns12s3, bad idea. There was supposed to be a gallon on the engine but its completly out of compression and there is a very large amount of play between the crankshaft and connecting rod. Does anyone know appropriate running dimensions for the connecting rod end and crankshaft end where they meet? Should I replace the connecting rod or just the crankshaft? Would a rod from an mr12 fit? Also would it be a good idea to get the p/s squeezed or better replaced? And one last question, what size head shim does this engine normally come with stock, this guy had 7mm clearance, I am used to running 3mm.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Any help greatly appreciated.
#2
Wow, that sucks man. I would replace the rod and get the sleeve pinched. www.rc-mushroom.com has the rods for $19. I just ordered 3 from them. I don't know exactly the size of the shim thats used but it should be just one silver shim. It's pretty thick so I think the .7mm would be about right. Someone else correct me if I'm wrong. Oh, and leave him negative feedback if you got it off ebay. Do you mind me asking how much you payed for it?
#3
Originally posted by rcpilot
I just bought a used ns12s3, bad idea. There was supposed to be a gallon on the engine but its completly out of compression and there is a very large amount of play between the crankshaft and connecting rod. Does anyone know appropriate running dimensions for the connecting rod end and crankshaft end where they meet? Should I replace the connecting rod or just the crankshaft? Would a rod from an mr12 fit? Also would it be a good idea to get the p/s squeezed or better replaced? And one last question, what size head shim does this engine normally come with stock, this guy had 7mm clearance, I am used to running 3mm.
Any help greatly appreciated.
I just bought a used ns12s3, bad idea. There was supposed to be a gallon on the engine but its completly out of compression and there is a very large amount of play between the crankshaft and connecting rod. Does anyone know appropriate running dimensions for the connecting rod end and crankshaft end where they meet? Should I replace the connecting rod or just the crankshaft? Would a rod from an mr12 fit? Also would it be a good idea to get the p/s squeezed or better replaced? And one last question, what size head shim does this engine normally come with stock, this guy had 7mm clearance, I am used to running 3mm.
Any help greatly appreciated.
I wouldn't do p/s squeeze on such a high revving engine, better change p/s.
As per head shim, standard shim for Nova based engines is 0.3mm (silver aluminum shim) which is good for running engine with up to 30% nitro, but if you are running 20% nitro you would do better with a 0.17mm shim. If you are running 25% nitro you should have a 0.21mm shim.
AFM
#5
Originally posted by mckrooz
Just a quesion AFM. Why wouldn't you want to do a pinch on a high revving engine? I just sent out my NS5 out this week.
Just a quesion AFM. Why wouldn't you want to do a pinch on a high revving engine? I just sent out my NS5 out this week.
Sure it will work, but I just don't think it will be the same as a new p/s. Would have to try it to believe it. When you get yours back let me know how ypur engine performs. Prove me wrong.
AFM
#7
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Joined: May 2002
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From: Toronto, Canada.
Thanks for the help guys.
I bought the engine off ebay for close to $140. The crank pin reads 4.15mm at the worst area and 4.20mm at the best area with my digital calipers. The conrod is 4.28-4.32mm so there is probably .15mm of play. This guy was running 2 .3mm shims and 1 .1mm shim for a total of .7mm head clearance. That is definately wrong.
Thanks for you help though guys. I guess I will need to replace a crankshaft, rod, and piston/sleeve. I could probably buy a new ns12s3 for that price since they are only like $220-230 new. No more used engines for me. I am gonna request a refund from the seller cuz this engine is complete junk, it looks good cosmetically but the guy had no clue as to what he was doing.
I bought the engine off ebay for close to $140. The crank pin reads 4.15mm at the worst area and 4.20mm at the best area with my digital calipers. The conrod is 4.28-4.32mm so there is probably .15mm of play. This guy was running 2 .3mm shims and 1 .1mm shim for a total of .7mm head clearance. That is definately wrong.
Thanks for you help though guys. I guess I will need to replace a crankshaft, rod, and piston/sleeve. I could probably buy a new ns12s3 for that price since they are only like $220-230 new. No more used engines for me. I am gonna request a refund from the seller cuz this engine is complete junk, it looks good cosmetically but the guy had no clue as to what he was doing.
#8
Just some FYI for you NS3 owners. I have a buddy that owns a Hobbytown. He tried to order a NS3 for stock. He told me that they discontinued them. And could not get any. Very interesting, considering that the engine is not that old.
#11
Just some FYI for you NS3 owners. I have a buddy that owns a Hobbytown. He tried to order a NS3 for stock. He told me that they discontinued them. And could not get any. Very interesting, considering that the engine is not that old.
#12
Originally posted by kt racing
The S-3 has not been cancelled. Nova Rossi does not have an importer right now. It used to be trinity but they droped them. So no one is importing nova. That is why no one can get them. Also .03 is the stock shim the comes with those motors. And if you keep that old motor I would be interested in the carb??
The S-3 has not been cancelled. Nova Rossi does not have an importer right now. It used to be trinity but they droped them. So no one is importing nova. That is why no one can get them. Also .03 is the stock shim the comes with those motors. And if you keep that old motor I would be interested in the carb??




