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chromie 07-14-2009 08:27 PM

Ofna Picco/Jlr .12 EVO 3 RED DOT
 
Hey, I would like to know what are the factory carb settings for this engine :)

afm 07-16-2009 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by chromie (Post 6068979)
Hey, I would like to know what are the factory carb settings for this engine :)


The factory settings of the engine are as following and are a good starting point for you. Turn in the needles completely (Caution: Do not
over tighten them!) and loosen them the required number of turns:

Idle screw: Should be open 0.5-1.0mm.

Low speed needle: Should be open: 6,75 turns

High speed needle:Should be open 5,00 turns

CARBURATING PICCO ENGINES
Engine works better on the rich side (HSN) and normally needs more than a couple of laps to reach the operational temp. Start on the rich side (HSN) and after 4 or 5 laps tune the engine. Doing this process on the bench (or starter box) normally overheats the engine driving you to a wrong tuning and maybe causing a damage. Set the engine a little bit rich (if you progressively open the carb, the engine responds quick but at 3/4 rpm becomes rich (not really 4 stroking but rich) Then at the track after several laps (at least 5) if the engine is still rich lean it.

Regarding LSN, Run the LSN a little bit on the rich side and still keeping the engine with a good idle (Very low rpm idle, is better for fuel consumption and handling of the car after off throttle).
After pre-heating the engine, just pinch the fuel line and if the rpm remains the same for 4 to 5 seconds and then the engine revs up and shuts off, that’s the best setting for a large track with long straight away. If the track is really short, and full of hairpins, LSN needs to be more lean, because the engine never revs up for a lot of time, and so if you keep the same setup described before it is always rich out of the corner.

AFM

chromie 07-17-2009 09:40 AM

Sweet!.. Can't wait for the weekend..
Thanks. :)

Tabushi 07-21-2009 02:46 PM

Guys,

Can you give me the info on bearing sizes for this engine ?, i have a red dot .12 jlr that needs new bearings,

thanks,

Pato Concha
Southamerica

afm 07-21-2009 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Tabushi (Post 6097134)
Guys,

Can you give me the info on bearing sizes for this engine ?, i have a red dot .12 jlr that needs new bearings,

thanks,

Pato Concha
Southamerica

Pato

Inside bearing 12 x 21 x 5mm MR6801-TH9/C3 (you can use from OS TZ engines)
Front bearing 6 x 16 x 5mm MR616ZZ (any picco based engine like the Mega)

Un Abrazo
AFM

Tabushi 07-21-2009 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by afm (Post 6097224)
Pato

Inside bearing 12 x 21 x 5mm MR6801-TH9/C3 (you can use from OS TZ engines)
Front bearing 6 x 16 x 5mm MR616ZZ (any picco based engine like the Mega)

Un Abrazo
AFM



Wow my old master helps me again !!

Gracias amigo !!

Pato Concha
Southamerica

NitroVal 07-22-2009 09:25 AM

What are the differences between this engine and the Off-Road Red Dot? The local hobby shop has an off-road sitting on the shelf and I was wondering how it would do in an NTC3

brc358 07-22-2009 09:48 AM

Red dot
 

Originally Posted by NitroVal (Post 6100935)
What are the differences between this engine and the Off-Road Red Dot? The local hobby shop has an off-road sitting on the shelf and I was wondering how it would do in an NTC3

Off road engnes have more torque, while onroad engines have higher rpm.
I have four tuned Red dots, and with the correct pipe, they run great.
Dont waste your money on an off-road engine even though it would fit the car.
Pick up the tuned Red Dot, pipe and header.
The NTC3 will scream with that combo.

serpvect 07-23-2009 02:10 PM

What pipe+manifold would you recommend for JLR?

Andrew Barr 07-23-2009 11:02 PM

Tapered collet
 
I picked up one of these motors (used) and it did not have the tapered collet (where the flywheel attaches to). I am having trouble trying to locate one as it is not a standard size. It looks like it maybe 1/4 inch as 6mm is a bit too big.

NitroVal 07-25-2009 08:47 PM

The reason I asked about the off-road version is my LHS had one on the shelf. I've been looking to down-up-grade from my OS 18CVR which just doesnt rev very fast for desent acceleration. The choices at the LHS were this off-road version or an OS 12TZ, which was $50 more. I decided to get the off-road Red Dot and so far I am loving it in the NTC3. Insane power, awesome acceleration, and our track really isnt even big enough for its power band, which is easily solveable by gearing. I may have the LHS order the on-road version and put the one I have now in my RC10GT for the dirt track.

aussies1129 07-26-2009 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by serpvect (Post 6107331)
What pipe+manifold would you recommend for JLR?

get the picco 2607 pipe with matching manifold!:nod:

sebtarta 07-26-2009 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Andrew Barr (Post 6109556)
I picked up one of these motors (used) and it did not have the tapered collet (where the flywheel attaches to). I am having trouble trying to locate one as it is not a standard size. It looks like it maybe 1/4 inch as 6mm is a bit too big.


http://www.nitrohouse.com/catalog/pr...ducts_id=12965

chromie 07-26-2009 10:50 AM

the picco 2607 pipe is discontinued.. get the picco 2651.. kamikaze has them
if you can't manage to find a 2607 that is..

serpvect 07-26-2009 01:11 PM

Thanks guys!
And what du think about 2652 from novarossi?
Has anybody tried it with JLR?


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