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pistonhead 05-05-2009 09:50 PM

Kyosho X312T engine
 
I just got the X312T engine and i am wondering if you have to heat the engine up with a heat gun/hair dryer before starting it for the first few tanks.
It says that because of the unique CRF technology you only need to run it in for 2-4 tanks. Do i still need to heat it before starting?

Riketsu 05-05-2009 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 5775598)
I just got the X312T engine and i am wondering if you have to heat the engine up with a heat gun/hair dryer before starting it for the first few tanks.
It says that because of the unique CRF technology you only need to run it in for 2-4 tanks. Do i still need to heat it before starting?

I would always recommend to pre-heat an engine before starting it up. Be it CRF, Picco or Novarossi. It helps the rod maintain its life since your reducing the stresses created on it.

pistonhead 05-05-2009 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Riketsu (Post 5775606)
I would always recommend to pre-heat an engine before starting it up. Be it CRF, Picco or Novarossi. It helps the rod maintain its life since your reducing the stresses created on it.

Is it normal if when i carefully slowly turn the cranksharft it gets hard when the piston is at the top of the exhaust port.? But i didn't turn it any further to evoid damage.

Nano 05-06-2009 12:33 AM

You don't need to heat up the engine before breaking it in.

Just run it rich for a couple of tanks and make it leaner so that it starts to have power after 3-4 tanks. After that, start fine tuning to get max power.

The pinch at the top is normal.

pistonhead 05-06-2009 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Nano (Post 5775991)
You don't need to heat up the engine before breaking it in.

Just run it rich for a couple of tanks and make it leaner so that it starts to have power after 3-4 tanks. After that, start fine tuning to get max power.

The pinch at the top is normal.

But with this one it gets hard when the top of the piston is level with the top of the exhaust port. won't it damage it?

Nano 05-06-2009 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 5776036)
But with this one it gets hard when the top of the piston is level with the top of the exhaust port. won't it damage it?

The pinch is always at the top it's normal.

Alex Siddique 05-12-2009 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Nano (Post 5776048)
The pinch is always at the top it's normal.

i have 2 of these engines , awesome work of art and power for price. my advise is just follow the manual. no need to pre heat the engine what so ever . and if u ever open the engine up dont try to push ur piston trough the liner . it will go right threw . when these engine are cold they seem not to have any compression or very less. but that's what special about these little power packs . never let the engine run over 120 degree cel. and the gearing on this engine are set a bit differently .
cheers alex

MikaR 06-03-2009 02:02 AM

hi, run my X312T for the 1st time last Sunday, it was fantastic. This is Kyosho version with goldish head. Can't compare much powerwise but based on what I've seen our local track, comparing, I wasn't any slower. This engine seemed so easy to use, let's see how long it will last.. Thumbs up so far!

pistonhead 06-03-2009 02:25 AM

Thanks for all the help guys!

Bundy_Bear 06-18-2009 02:56 PM

What glow plugs are you using?

pistonhead 06-24-2009 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by Bundy_Bear (Post 5954483)
What glow plugs are you using?

i ran in my engine last sunday at moorebank and it was great. i am currently using a kyosho 6 turbo plug. the one that comes with the engine. it seemed to run well. but i can't give you a solid answer because i have only run 3 tanks.

MikaR 06-24-2009 02:15 AM

I think the one that comes with the engine is an Orion REV plug (medium #6)
I've been using the cold REV plug lately with 16% nitro

mtbkym01 08-24-2009 02:16 AM

X312T Performance
 
So how are these engines performing? I really like the look of them and am seriously considering this as my next engine.

Let the feedback roll in

mtbkym01 08-28-2009 01:43 PM

Opinions anyone?

Alex Siddique 08-28-2009 08:07 PM

engine
 
lots of rev's in this motor , need perfect clutch setting and under gearing to get power to the ground. if your running on a small track i wouldnt get this if ur running on a big track go for it. there are better promising engines for the few extra$. each to there own.

Roelof 08-29-2009 01:52 AM

The only reason not to go for that engine is that it isn't produced anymore so parts will be difficult to find. If you can find the right setup in clutch and gearing it will run fast,

Alex Siddique 08-29-2009 03:34 AM

bartz rc part have them on special in sydney and lots of spare.

mtbkym01 08-29-2009 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by ccrcraceway (Post 6272926)
bartz rc part have them on special in sydney and lots of spare.

The price at Bartz is what has me interested:nod:

latemodel13 08-29-2009 04:57 AM

Carb Issues
 
I found that an OS carb is a perfect fit and will make the crf an easy to tune engine. I put a carb from an 18 tz on mine and it's fast but not legal if you must run a carb with a 5.5 opening. Maybe a carb from a speed 12 would work also.;)

cheROK1212 08-29-2009 07:18 AM

manpipe
 
What pipe mani combo is good for these engines if you can't find the CRF pipe? Anything tuned for high RPM?

Alex Siddique 09-08-2009 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by cheROK1212 (Post 6273473)
What pipe mani combo is good for these engines if you can't find the CRF pipe? Anything tuned for high RPM?

skyline v12 plus is very torquey pipe for crf . but makes the engine run a bit hotter .

pistonhead 12-06-2009 11:14 PM

Thanks for all the info guys.

i have been running this engine for about 6 months and it is awesome!

So easy to tune!

Its FAST!

Reliable!


Best engine i've ever had.:)

pistonhead 12-06-2009 11:19 PM

Oh and if anyone has some info on clutch set up for this engine i would like to hear it.

thanks.

GREGORY! 12-07-2009 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6686612)
Oh and if anyone has some info on clutch set up for this engine i would like to hear it.

thanks.

go here!
you will find everything you need!
http://www.rctech.net/forum/exclusiv...o-results.html

MikaR 12-07-2009 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6686612)
Oh and if anyone has some info on clutch set up for this engine i would like to hear it.

thanks.

Hi, I'm not a racer (yet) in this class but I've been using the 3D clutch from Kyosho with my RRR and seems to work perfectly fine. Thanks

pistonhead 12-12-2009 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by MikaR (Post 6686864)
Hi, I'm not a racer (yet) in this class but I've been using the 3D clutch from Kyosho with my RRR and seems to work perfectly fine. Thanks

And you are using the Kyosho CRF X312T engine?

elche_83 12-13-2009 04:23 AM

I found the veg clutch weights,shoe and spring works well But I think they only fit kyosho clutches

MikaR 12-13-2009 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6711088)
And you are using the Kyosho CRF X312T engine?

So far yes. Now also have the newer Orion CRF .12 waiting for the next season 2010 with RRR 2D clutch.

pistonhead 12-13-2009 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by MikaR (Post 6713647)
So far yes. Now also have the newer Orion CRF .12 waiting for the next season 2010 with RRR 2D clutch.

Cool.

how much clutch gap are you using?

Because i am hearing a lot of 0.5mm clutch gaps with these engines.

MikaR 12-13-2009 10:00 PM

~1.1 - 1.2 mm in the clutch nut. ~0.5mm play in the end of the cranck (the locking screw).

GREGORY! 12-14-2009 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6714355)
Cool.

how much clutch gap are you using?

Because i am hearing a lot of 0.5mm clutch gaps with these engines.

pistonhead like i said before.go to that link.it has many many things to look.
a lot of information!
from clutch settings,gearing,shimming,needle settings.
just everything.

pistonhead 12-15-2009 02:51 AM

ok man

pistonhead 12-15-2009 02:53 AM

http://rcmarket.com.hk/images/orion_crf80600.jpg

Beauty!

pistonhead 12-16-2009 06:30 PM

where are you guys getting the glowplug for this engine.

the CRF88836 X312T CRF turbo X-plug No.6

Don't know where to get it from.

jca2000au 12-16-2009 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6729322)
where are you guys getting the glowplug for this engine.

the CRF88836 X312T CRF turbo X-plug No.6

Don't know where to get it from.

Young Pistonhead,

use O.S. P6 or P7, i will have some with me this sunday.

MikaR 12-16-2009 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by pistonhead (Post 6729322)
where are you guys getting the glowplug for this engine.

the CRF88836 X312T CRF turbo X-plug No.6

Don't know where to get it from.

Just one example
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-glo...6-p-20152.html

pistonhead 12-17-2009 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by jca2000au (Post 6730101)
Young Pistonhead,

use O.S. P6 or P7, i will have some with me this sunday.

thanks, i didn't know the os would fit

i can get the OS P6 turbo plugs from RC hobbies near me.

Cheers.

can i use
Team Orion 06-T Glow Plug Turbo Medium
[88811]

http://www.rchobbies.com.au/store/po...c47822ec1e0175

pistonhead 12-23-2009 03:58 PM

how hot are you guys running this engine

chovden 01-10-2010 03:13 PM

Anyone had a crank pin failure on these? I broke my pin today..

elche_83 01-10-2010 10:08 PM

i have, conrod punched a hole in the case also


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