Engine tuners in US?
 

Are there any, post up some links please.

Edelbrock, Holley..... and Murnan! :lol: ;)

I feel Murnan is the best!!!

There are tons of them:

Hot mod, (Jim Hottinger) EB mods, (Ed Bridges... I think is his name) RB mods (Rick Brake... once again I think that is his name), Dennis Richey, Steve O'Donnell, Uriah Murnan, Pat Fox, Mike Queller, and I quite sure there are plenty more of them.

I would go with the Murnan#1 and would def stay away from the EB MODS and JIM HOTTINGER mods they do nothing to the crank and this is the mod you will get for 100.00 or up from them
http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1999-4a.jpg
crap, no blue printing and so on..
Here is modding
http://murnanmodified.com/images/elmt_front_rside.jpg

Murnan's engines r really fast! I'm very happy with his work and the performance of his engines.

how would one get in touch with Murnan?

Murnan will give you the Mojo...he Rocks ;)

MRX4- So that pic of one liner reperesents the work of TWO different companies, or are they connected? Just wanna clarify....

I have an eb mod and besides some silicone in the crank it looks COMPLETELY stock. This is the TZ mod edition which os lists on their site even.

Glad I didnt pay for it. Ha. I then went and modified it myself , now it actually makes some good power.

does murman modify already bought engines?

I have a JLR I bought before I found out they had modified engines, and I also have a .18Cv-r that I want to modify

sorry I forgot in the two different companies eb does touch the crank they put silicone in the crank for the crank ramp, and no they are not connected, every jimm hott engine I have seen from a .12 to .21 he has the same cut under the intake port but his looks like he used a band saw.
If I was going to buy a "real modded" engine for power I would go with a murnan and if you want real nice "beautiful" looking crank and sleeve go with rb mods, jk

I think he only does new engines. You can send him an engine to mod, but it has to be new!! I think...

I wonder if murnan will mod my monster fg weedeater motor! :tire:

I have run several of Jim's engines and every one has ran great. You are correct that he does nothing with the crank, but I have had great success with his engines. I can also say this. I have seen several of Uriah's engines run. They all ran fine. I have talked to him at a few races and he seems like a great guy. I got one and it was the worst engine I have owned. I will chalk it up to me not getting it right as like I said I have seen plenty of them run well.

Calling his work crap is pretty harsh. You know he basically was doing all Paris racing engines for the last few years of Paris racing.

What engine did you get from Uriah? Why was it the worst engine you have owned?

When I've contracted Uriah directly, he has always been very helpful and supportive - even before I bought an engine from him. What did Uriah have to say about your issues?

That's the first time I've seen anyone mention a problem with a Murnan engine.

Calling his work crap is pretty harsh. You know he basically was doing all Paris racing engines for the last few years of Paris racing.
Scott

I dont mean his work is crap, I am just saying he charges 125.00 for modding and all you get is a cut on sleeve I think that is crap..
Have you seen what Murnan does for 100.00, he does work not a cut and I dont mean it in a bad way, that is just the way I see it..

:nod:

I got a Mugen X12 from him. It ran the engine hotter than any of the other novarossi engines I owned, it used more gas and made less power. At this point (well after the fact) I am fairly certain I needed to lean it out even more. Problem was it was already running as hot or hotter than I liked running the NS series engines. I felt that it would really shorten the life of the engine running hotter.

I spoke to him briefly and he always seemed willing to help out with anything but I didn't really go to far with it. I sold the engine and went back to what works for me.

Like I said, I have seen plenty of his engines run just fine. The ones I have seen run well, I don't think are any better than anybody else's engine, but they ran fine. I really don't want to turn this thread into a thread about Uriah or his engines. I was more upset that I felt somebody that has been very good to me was being attacked, so I responded a bit childlike by attacking back.

Thanks for providing the details Scott. I think that clears things up. :nod:

so if my JLR "Red-Dot" is brand spanking new and I send him $100 and the engien I can have it modfied?

$150

i was just wondering, cause from what I hear that engine has a ton of balls stock.

Weird because I have a Mugen X12 right now that is modded by JP Racing. To make a long story short it doesn't have these symptoms. I am not sure what mods Murnan does and what mods JP does specifically.

Any quality stock engine would. In the hands of a capable driver anyhow. There's just something really sweet about having a killer modded engine though :D

I need someone that will mod a used engine, good running used engine.

MRX4, can you please explain 'blue printing'?

Remember my favorite saying--'you can polish a turd all you want, but you'll still end up with a turd in the end, albeit a shiny turd, but a turd none the less!'

By the way, in EB's defense, He is pretty serious about his craft and he recently added an Xdyno to his line of equipment. I expect very good things from him in the near future.

BK

No mxwrench I cannot explain blue printing,
I said what I said earlier because I have had 2 tz.12 in my one eb .12 and the other box stock and have measured the crank, bore, and not a DAME thing was different from them but the flow ramp, and as the for sleeve ok he did touch it. Now you tell me is that worth the money :mad:
I am done with this tread, I just wanted to post my 2 cents on rip off modders..

i to question EB Mods. here is the stock crank an EB Crank and a True modded Crank. EB also claims to fully balance all of this engines. Im not saying EB Mods or any modder sucks everyone mods different and their mods are for diff purposes.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...stockCrank.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...le/EBCrank.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...le/ABCrank.jpg

The modder whos on the front page of the Ofna website does good work. thats who mods my engines.


Also BK whats up? you ever get anymore dyno time on that Picco .28 i sent ya?

hey german muscle thats just what my home made engine mods look like :blush:

but yea if thats EB mods right there, I can do it at home

Mxwrench as eb quoted this cannot be done over night!
Each engine that comes from EBMods is fully mapped out. The process of which everything is measured, mic'ed, and cc'ed. These numbers are then compared to the original R&D engine specs, to make sure that no running production changes were made at the factory. If a simple timing change is made at the factory then these calculations now need to be readjusted on the engine blueprint, and noted. This insures the highest quality control. What we do at EBMods can't be done over night.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...d/e9f4fd87.jpg
I guess this is where he balances the crank, I guess he did touch the crank.
http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1999-4a.jpg
He is correct this cannot be done overnight he made 100.00 in ten min..

Get hold of Rick Brake at RB Mods. I have been running his motors for the past two years with no problems at all. His mods make the motor run cooler and much improved run time. Rick mods the crank and the sleeve on all of his motors. I you currently have a motor that you want to get modded, give him a call and talk with him. Great service and fast turn around. Here is a link to his site: http://rbmods.net/

Agree I ran some of his engines 2 years ago, they ran cooler and very nice work..

a lot has been said over the last few years about motor mods
what i have found to be true most of the time is the stock motors for the most part are very good. When people start to change the duration and
timeing of a motor it will use more fuel and become harder to tune.
yes it can make more power in some cases but not always, there are a
few people that understand what these mods do, simply just grinding away
to look like work has been done will be a hit and miss in terms of gains
any time the crank is dremeled or machined to open the intake it will
alter the timeing and duration and the balance, same with the sleave
as far as i know only muran and jp check balance. for most people
a pipe and header and getting clutch and gearing right for the track that they are at will give them the best gains

:nod:

Hey BK. Whatzup man?
Hey, I finaly put together my 450 SE and tuned as you suggested-flyes like eagle. :nod: :p :p
I got G3.5 sim, but I have feeling all birds there are sort of too twichy, do you know how to make them more realistic? Also for some reason my 7 CHP doesn't have all functions when I connected to InterLink-man need help ASAP!!! Please.
Do you have any 450 files for that sim?
Edward