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Old 03-27-2007, 01:10 PM   #16
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oh well I already bought a Skyline .12RR PLUS for it so i hope that can let the engine breathe, alot of people are saying thats a good pipe for the engine
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:39 PM   #17
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From what i heard the secon engine is a piece of shit...

Like Carson engines :S

Im definetly not buyin...I like my Picco
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:32 PM   #18
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I just saw this price on the fusion web site.. $979.00
This engine better start for you for by itself and refill for you for that price..

353 Race .12
Price: $979.00
http://www.fusionmotorsports.com/Cat...l?catId=253351
Those idiot companies always pull the MSRP to the sky (untouchable level) and the price is meaningless and cannot treat as an index.

I am really interested to see their business will be how good if this engine selling over $400.

I believe the street price will be under $400 eventually........ otherwise they are ready to close the company door.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:33 PM   #19
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What engine is the second one,
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:28 PM   #20
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Won't be buying any of those motors.
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Old 03-27-2007, 11:01 PM   #21
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According to the Kawahara web site, the 2nd engine is a NS12P.
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:49 AM   #22
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According to kawahara this engine is in the package..

What were they thinking.For racers that engine is wreckless... It isnt for training or anything..
I will wait till you will be able to buy the Plus 2 only..Until then NOT!

This is the engine:
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Old 03-28-2007, 02:33 AM   #23
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Well in my shop I will sell this engine seperately because I know it very difficult to sell 2 engine with different powr or different model.
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I think with the novarossi 353 being a all out race engine with the main market amed at hard core racers. It may of been a better idear for novarossi to get togeather with a rtr car manufactur and have a novarossi engine in a rtr car. Its not that the second engine would not be high quality its simply not a race engine at our club in australia 80% of the field is running novarossi 35+21 engines as club engines some prity high paforming club engines. Thats my thoughts after seeing the pic that was posted earler. Best Regards Jeremy.
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Or box them like the off road version with spare parts and a pipe??. Regards Jeremy.
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Old 03-28-2007, 04:40 AM   #26
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I know from your postings in other threads that you are very concerned about the power of the JLR you just ordered.
Since you are coming from an R12S1, the difference is going to be huge. Hope you can handle it
If you can, get a Mega 2607 pipe for it and it's going to rip big time!

Yes, I'm talking about all the latest Picco based engines out there:
Picco Evo3, IDM, LRP Team spec3, Mega DSII, JLR, Solaroli etc.

Picco engines have always been fast, most of the times even faster than the best NR engines, but until recently, they had a huge problem with their conrods in their .12 engines. Also, the carburators were horrible.

Now, they got those problems sorted out and their engines are now fast and reliable and most important, affordable.
Im sure, when you see my new NR Plus 12-3, you will buy again a NR.

See u at Munster
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:31 AM   #27
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Im sure, when you see my new NR Plus 12-3, you will buy again a NR.

See u at Munster
Don't worry, I just tested my new modified LRP spec 3 and I also had a brand new IDM / NR left, which I modified to the new rules.

Maybe you'll be the one who'll change engines
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Or box them like the off road version with spare parts and a pipe??. Regards Jeremy.
I agree with you, if they sold the 353 and 359 in a similiar box as the 367 it would be more intrested.
If you buy a 359/353 you want a very good and powerfull engine....so what the hell you need the N12P or the N21P for?
Could use it in the rain, but how many drivers are actually driving in the rain, close to none.

just my 2 cents
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Every racer i have talked to top level or beginer is disapointed with the 353 and 359 combo packs. I just think it will ristrick sales drasticly I know i would not have any hesation about paying good money and buying one of these packs if it was minus the ns12p or ns21p engine but included a pipe and header or some kind of pack like that or even just the engine by its self. I think sales would dubble over night I'm quite confadant of that. Regards Jeremy.
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Honestly I could care less if they double there sales. We as races are allowing them to charge these kinds of prices. If more people said to hell with that and went with the just as fast, cheaper ($) alternatives, Nova would drop those prices.
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