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rmdhawaii 02-06-2007 04:33 AM

NitroKB.com: .12 Engine Knowledge Base
 
NitroKB.com: .12 Engine Knowledge Base
http://www.nitrokb.com/engines/

I'm slowly, but surely putting a .12 Engine Knowledge Base together. It is primarily for on-road engines, but a lot of information should be applicable to other engines as well. The purpose of the site is to help people make an informed decision when buying an engine and to get the best performance out of the engines they have.

If you find any links, articles, reading material or products relating to .12 on-road engines that may be of interest, please post them in this thread, so that I can include the info at the Web site and we can share/discuss it. That goes for corrections as well. :sweat:

Thanks for your support. :)

Rainer

rmdhawaii 02-06-2007 04:34 AM

What fuel brand am I missing??

* Byron Fuel (aka Mugen Seiki)
* JP Racing
* O'Donnell Racing
* Runner Time
* Maxy's Fuel
* Morgan Fuel (Sidewinder)
* Powermaster
* Rocket Science
* Tornado
* Werks Racing

rmdhawaii 02-06-2007 04:36 AM

Anybody run or try an engine modified by TNT Mods? http://tntmods.com/

They have some interesting info on modifying engines...

mxwrench 02-07-2007 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
What fuel brand am I missing??

* Byron Fuel (aka Mugen Seiki)
* JP Racing
* O'Donnell Racing
* Runner Time
* Maxy's Fuel
* Morgan Fuel (Sidewinder)
* Powermaster
* Rocket Science
* Tornado
* Werks Racing

Trinity Monster HP
Trinity Platinum blend
HPI fuel (cant remember the name)
Omega cool power


Anybody run or try an engine modified by TNT Mods? http://tntmods.com/

They have some interesting info on modifying engines...
Check Xtreme rc mag, they did a back to back test (stock vs. tnt mod) about a year ago or so. Contact Derek for info.

I might be able to get the dyno info from him, but I am still busy settling in my new home at the moment so I wont be able to get to it for a week or two.

BK

rmdhawaii 02-07-2007 08:08 AM

Thanks Brian :)

teammpp 02-07-2007 09:28 AM

Model Technics
Dynaglo

rmdhawaii 02-07-2007 03:31 PM

Updated fuel list:

* Byron Fuel (aka Mugen Seiki)
* HPI (Power Fuel) - http://www.hpiracing.com
* JP Racing
* O'Donnell Racing
* Runner Time
* Maxy's Fuel
* Model Technics - http://www.modeltechnics.com/
* Morgan Fuel (Sidewinder, Omega & Cool Power)
* Powermaster
* Rocket Science
* Tornado
* Trinity (Nitro Power Platinum, Monster Horsepower & Monster Brew) - http://www.teamtrinity.com
* Werks Racing

EdwardN 02-07-2007 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Updated fuel list:

* Byron Fuel (aka Mugen Seiki)
* HPI (Power Fuel) - http://www.hpiracing.com
* JP Racing
* O'Donnell Racing
* Runner Time
* Maxy's Fuel
* Model Technics - http://www.modeltechnics.com/
* Morgan Fuel (Sidewinder, Omega & Cool Power)
* Powermaster
* Rocket Science
* Tornado
* Trinity (Nitro Power Platinum, Monster Horsepower & Monster Brew) - http://www.teamtrinity.com
* Werks Racing

Hi Rainer.
It's been while since I visited forum. I looked your web site and looks great and it will be helpfull for wide range of people understand some grounds. Let me know if you need more materials or drawings or whatever I can help with
Edward

rmdhawaii 02-07-2007 08:00 PM

Thanks Edward! :smile:

rmdhawaii 02-07-2007 08:02 PM

Almost forgot..

* Massive Mods (Scorpion 333) - http://www.massivemods.com

Not only does he mod engines, but he also has his own brew. :sneaky:

itchy b 02-07-2007 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Almost forgot..

* Massive Mods (Scorpion 333) - http://www.massivemods.com

Not only does he mod engines, but he also has his own brew. :sneaky:

That's Massive!!! :eek: :lol: :lol:

rmdhawaii 02-08-2007 02:55 AM

The pipes section has been updated with EFRA 2006 pipes, along with photos that I scrounged up from the Web. I'm missing a few (well, more than just a few :lol: ) so if you happen to find a clean image of one I'm missing, please let me know. Thanks! :)

twiggy 02-09-2007 03:11 AM

i don't know if it is available over there in the states but here in australia i use AT racing fuel. it is produced by vp racing fuels.

rmdhawaii 02-09-2007 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by twiggy
i don't know if it is available over there in the states but here in australia i use AT racing fuel. it is produced by vp racing fuels.

I'll check it out. Thanks

TeamCarnage 02-10-2007 07:08 AM

fuel
 
Blue Thunder, Losis Nitrothane, Both distributed by Horizon Hobby.

rmdhawaii 02-11-2007 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by twiggy
i don't know if it is available over there in the states but here in australia i use AT racing fuel. it is produced by vp racing fuels.

Hmmm....

You should read this...
http://www.vpracing.com.au/News%20Re...ro%20Jan18.htm

rmdhawaii 02-11-2007 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by TeamCarnage
Blue Thunder, Losis Nitrothane, Both distributed by Horizon Hobby.

Thanks. I updated the links at the Web site. :)

nitro_moe 02-21-2007 04:17 AM

Hi Rmd,,

I gotta tell ya,, i'm a great fan of your website..:nod: :nod: Just one tiny little comment if I may. I would love to see a link from the main page of www.nitrokb.com to all these new expansions you're currently working on. Keep up the good work buddy. The RC community should feel proud to have someone like you who works hard to benefit the hobbiests around the world..

Best of luck dude.. :cool: :tire:

rmdhawaii 02-21-2007 08:28 AM

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. :) I will add the links to the main page tonight.

Artificial-I 02-21-2007 12:47 PM

Wildcat Fuels
Which makes
HPI Power Fuel
& Trinities fuels

Its all the exact same just different nitro percentages and oil percentages.

jelayne 02-21-2007 02:24 PM

rmd no mention of your favorite pipe SKyline :blush: in the pipes section

Anyhow great job always

rmdhawaii 02-21-2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by jelayne
rmd no mention of your favorite pipe SKyline :blush: in the pipes section

Anyhow great job always

:D

BTW.. Have not forgotten about the track layouts, just been kinda busy lately. Trying to catch up.

@sd 02-22-2007 05:09 AM

gammalube
 
Hi!
Anybody tried gammalube before?

http://www.gammalube.com/

Thanks.

jelayne 02-25-2007 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
:D

BTW.. Have not forgotten about the track layouts, just been kinda busy lately. Trying to catch up.

no problem rmd just keep up the good work

rmdhawaii 04-02-2007 08:14 AM

JLR .12 Red Dot is now up in the Engine FAQ.

M7H 04-03-2007 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by @sd
Hi!
Anybody tried gammalube before?

http://www.gammalube.com/

Thanks.

Good stuff!!!...

"ROGA" fuel, also very good stuff.......

German Muscle 04-03-2007 06:41 PM

as far as engine mods you can add these.
RB Mods http://www.rbmods.net/
AB Mods http://www.abmods.com/
JP Racing http://www.jpracing.com/
EB Mods http://www.ebmods.com/
Hott Mods http://www.fusionmotorsports.com/
CEO Power Mods http://www.ceopowermods.com/store/
Murnan Mods http://murnanmodified.com/

You should expand this to more thanjust .12 engines.

rmdhawaii 04-04-2007 02:18 AM


Originally Posted by M7H
Good stuff!!!...

"ROGA" fuel, also very good stuff.......

Link for Roga added. Thanks :)

rmdhawaii 04-04-2007 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by German Muscle

Wow! What a pleasant surprise! Thank you for providing those links. :nod:


Originally Posted by German Muscle
You should expand this to more than just .12 engines.

We only have organized racing for 1/10th nitro here in Hawaii, so I don't have any experience running other sized engines. I know that some of the information is applicable to other engines, but for now, I'm trying to keep the Web site's focus on 1/10th. If 1/8th ever starts up, I'll probably expand the site for that scale as well.

M7H 04-04-2007 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Link for Roga added. Thanks :)

Rainer,
Put "Gammalube" in there also....
Also good stuff......

Martin

rmdhawaii 04-04-2007 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by M7H
Rainer,
Put "Gammalube" in there also....
Also good stuff......

Martin

Thanks - I thought I already put that one in, but I guess not. :sweat:

rmdhawaii 04-13-2007 05:24 PM

I'm trying to put together a list of "Best" .12 engine from each manufacturer. Feel free to make any comments or corrections to the list. I know Novarossi is a tough one, because they make so many engines :rolleyes:, but I had to start somewhere.

Axial: .12RR Spec 1
GRP: Ninja MR12 T01A
JP Racing: FX T-03MT
LRP: .12R Spec 3
MaxPower: MX 12 MAX SL3
Mega: MF12 3P MasMo II
Novarossi: Plus 12-3SCT
OFNA: JLR .12 Red-Dot Picco
OS Engines: 12TZ (P) T3 Speed Tuned
Palmaris Racing: PR12
Peak Racing: Diablo CRF REV .12
Picco: P1-R EVO 3
RB Products/Concept: .12 Speedline Matrix
Sirio: S12 T3 I STI
STS: D3R IFMAR
Team Orion: WASP Rev CRF .12
Trinity: .12 Touring Draked

BTW.. If I'm missing any engine manufacturers, please let me know. Also, I know that some of these are Picco-based - and that the Diablo and WASP are the same engine. ;)

Thanks! :)

jeff1 04-13-2007 07:01 PM

You missed IDM engines. I don't know IDM site, I think the modded P1-R .12 RE Turbo is the fastest engine
Keep good job, it will help people decide which engine to get :)
see you

Ivan Dickson 04-13-2007 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
I'm trying to put together a list of "Best" .12 engine from each manufacturer. Feel free to make any comments or corrections to the list. I know Novarossi is a tough one, because they make so many engines :rolleyes:, but I had to start somewhere.

Axial: .12RR Spec 1
GRP: Ninja MR12 T01A
JP Racing: FX T-03MT
LRP: .12R Spec 3
MaxPower: MX 12 MAX SL3
Mega: MF12 3P MasMo II
Novarossi: Plus 12-3SCT
OFNA: JLR .12 Red-Dot Picco
OS Engines: 12TZ (P) T3 Speed Tuned
Palmaris Racing: PR12
Peak Racing: Diablo CRF REV .12
Picco: P1-R EVO 3
RB Products/Concept: .12 Speedline Matrix
Sirio: S12 T3 I STI
STS: D3R IFMAR
Team Orion: WASP Rev CRF .12
Trinity: .12 Touring Draked

BTW.. If I'm missing any engine manufacturers, please let me know. Also, I know that some of these are Picco-based - and that the Diablo and WASP are the same engine. ;)

Thanks! :)

Looks good so far!!!!! :nod: :nod: :tire: :tire:

German Muscle 04-14-2007 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
I'm trying to put together a list of "Best" .12 engine from each manufacturer. Feel free to make any comments or corrections to the list. I know Novarossi is a tough one, because they make so many engines :rolleyes:, but I had to start somewhere.

Axial: .12RR Spec 1
GRP: Ninja MR12 T01A
JP Racing: FX T-03MT
LRP: .12R Spec 3
MaxPower: MX 12 MAX SL3
Mega: MF12 3P MasMo II
Novarossi: Plus 12-3SCT
OFNA: JLR .12 Red-Dot Picco
OS Engines: 12TZ (P) T3 Speed Tuned
Palmaris Racing: PR12
Peak Racing: Diablo CRF REV .12
Picco: P1-R EVO 3
RB Products/Concept: .12 Speedline Matrix
Sirio: S12 T3 I STI
STS: D3R IFMAR
Team Orion: WASP Rev CRF .12
Trinity: .12 Touring Draked

BTW.. If I'm missing any engine manufacturers, please let me know. Also, I know that some of these are Picco-based - and that the Diablo and WASP are the same engine. ;)

Thanks! :)

looks good, those are all 3 ports though. ;)

rmdhawaii 04-14-2007 02:33 AM

Not sure about the 5-ports, so I'm definitely going to need some help in this category.

5-Ports:

Axial: -
GRP: -
JP Racing: FX T-05
LRP: -
MaxPower: MX 12 MAX S5 (?)
Mega: -
Novarossi: Plus 12-5SCT (?)
OFNA: -
OS Engines: 12TZ(P)–T 5-Port
Palmaris Racing: -
Peak Racing: -
Picco: -
RB Products/Concept: V12 5 Ports tuned Rody RE/TG/SPT/SLD
Sirio: S12 T5 STI
STS: D12X
Team Orion: -
Trinity: -

nigelnuggets 04-14-2007 09:18 AM

Hmm, mega has two branches of motors, dunno if you want to include that but there is:

MEGA ZX
MEGA MF

MF would be their novarossi line of motors
ZX is their picco based stuff

Sooooo, the "best" MF engine would be: Mega MF12 3P MasMo Cera IFMAR
and the "best" ZX line engine would have to be: Mega ZX12 DSII Legal Race

But its up to you if you want to make Mega all just one line.

rmdhawaii 04-14-2007 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by nigelnuggets
Hmm, mega has two branches of motors, dunno if you want to include that but there is:

MEGA ZX
MEGA MF

MF would be their novarossi line of motors
ZX is their picco based stuff

Sooooo, the "best" MF engine would be: Mega MF12 3P MasMo Cera IFMAR
and the "best" ZX line engine would have to be: Mega ZX12 DSII Legal Race

But its up to you if you want to make Mega all just one line.

Thanks for letting me know about the Cera IFMAR. I didn't realize that it just came out. ;)

Quite honestly, I really didn't think of breaking it down into engine lines. I was thinking more along the lines of, "If you had to choose an engine between brands, what would your best choices be from each manufacturer." That might be too narrow of a focus, as each line within each brand brings something to the table - but it seems to me, that people primarily own or use only one engine and don't choose an engine for a particular track or operating conditions (i.e. temp/humidity) - but that's just my impression.

Based on performance, why would you choose the ZX over the MF?

In the Novarossi line, why would someone choose a PLUS12-3SCT over an N12LS3 or the new 353?

What do you think? Perhaps "second choice" or "alternate choice" might be appropriate - but I would have to think about it.

rmdhawaii 04-21-2007 06:32 AM

Okay Nigel. I'm starting to warm up to your idea. ;)

Artificial-I 04-21-2007 10:05 AM

STS best 3 port motor is the D12X (3 port) , the D3R is the most common and best bang for the buck from the STS line.

The 5 port motor D12X comes in a 5+2 port format. The D5R is the 5 port version D3R.

With the new JLR motor it makes budget on-road motors like the STS pretty pointless. Especially since they come no where near the performance and or quality of the JLR.


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