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sedanaddict 06-01-2006 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Corse-R
Yep, the cooling head has a bigger plug hole, so the temp sensor goes near of the plug, the temp reading is way different than in Novarossi engines a Ninja reading 135 or 140ºC is a happy engine, in Nova mills, this temp means severe meltdown.

i have pitted for a guy at our track who has a new ro1. 2 weeks ago he was breaking it in and it was running 205-210 for the entire day. last week i leaned it out and it was running 225 at close to max lean(high humidity and around 90 degrees). i was temping with an exergen gun. this motor seems pretty good compared to much more expensive motors and factoring in the price, it looks tough to beat.
i run a serpent with a c5 rody so i have nothing to gain by plugging this motor.

p.s. he is using 20% nitro

rmdhawaii 06-01-2006 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii
Stop guessing! Just call Mugen Racing and ask them. :nod:

Just called Mugen Racing. T01 should be out in about 2-3 weeks. :sneaky:

Mike_Swauger 06-06-2006 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by sedanaddict
i have pitted for a guy at our track who has a new ro1. 2 weeks ago he was breaking it in and it was running 205-210 for the entire day. last week i leaned it out and it was running 225 at close to max lean(high humidity and around 90 degrees). i was temping with an exergen gun. this motor seems pretty good compared to much more expensive motors and factoring in the price, it looks tough to beat.
i run a serpent with a c5 rody so i have nothing to gain by plugging this motor.

p.s. he is using 20% nitro

The motor still sounds rich. The Ninja motor will read hotter then a Nova or Picco motor because the temp reading is right at the glowplug. I have been running the motor around 260 to 300 deg depending on the outside temp.

bhambrent 06-10-2006 10:27 PM

Will there be a MR12T01 with a rotary carburetor?

Riketsu 06-10-2006 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by bhambrent
Will there be a MR12T01 with a rotary carburetor?

Dont think so... I believe the .12 engines were designed specifically for on-road. But only Mike or Robbie can answer that question accurately.

dag32 06-12-2006 12:20 PM

The MR21-R01...

Is this engine easy to tune?

How does it hold it's tune?

How does it compare to an OS .21 VZ-R Turbo II?

Mike_Swauger 06-12-2006 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by bhambrent
Will there be a MR12T01 with a rotary carburetor?

Sorry there will not be a rotary carb for the T-01.

Corse-R 06-12-2006 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Mike_Swauger
Sorry there will not be a rotary carb for the T-01.


Mike:

Sent you a PM some days ago regarding the MRX4-R...

BTW: Any news regarding the T01? Love the R01 and would like to give a try to the touring model

Racing4Evo 06-12-2006 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Corse-R
Mike:

Sent you a PM some days ago regarding the MRX4-R...

BTW: Any news regarding the T01? Love the R01 and would like to give a try to the touring model

I saw him running the T01 last Saturday. It looks pretty good. I'm not sure if they were still breaking in the motor or just fine tuning it but so far the engine looks good enough to win a National Championship.

rmdhawaii 06-14-2006 04:06 PM

It's been about two weeks since I last spoke with Mugen USA. Anybody know if the T01 is available for purchase anywhere?? Anybody know which dealer might be getting it first??

Thanks for the info! :)

SalvadoriRacing 06-14-2006 04:15 PM

according to the Italian press, one of the Gandini brothers said the .12 engines would be available on July..........

TPB 06-26-2006 03:20 AM

Does anybody know why Mike Swauger didnt run a Ninja at the 1/10th ROAR Nationals? I heard that it wasnt fast enough so he used his trusty JP?

bhambrent 06-29-2006 04:43 PM

When is the .12t01 coming out :confused:

Roger 07-01-2006 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by TPB
Does anybody know why Mike Swauger didnt run a Ninja at the 1/10th ROAR Nationals? I heard that it wasnt fast enough so he used his trusty JP?

Not true. From what he said, the ninja .12 T01 motor was as fast as his JP's. I helped tuned one of his ninja motors during one practice session at the nationals, and I can tell you this that his motor was extremely fast even at temps of 190 degrees F :eek: .

TPB 07-01-2006 02:29 AM

But why didnt he run it at the nationals?

_cyclops_ 07-01-2006 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by TPB
Does anybody know why Mike Swauger didnt run a Ninja at the 1/10th ROAR Nationals? I heard that it wasnt fast enough so he used his trusty JP?


At the EFRA GP at the mach RickV used a ninja, but he sad it was still prototype, and he clearly missed some botom power... he still managed to get to the final though...

GrandeGixxer 07-01-2006 04:03 AM

I am interested to see what the .12 will do in the hands of the average racer. The Wars Rev is out, Ninja its your turn.

Seisick 07-01-2006 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by TPB
Does anybody know why Mike Swauger didnt run a Ninja at the 1/10th ROAR Nationals? I heard that it wasnt fast enough so he used his trusty JP?


according to comments from liverc, mike only had two engines available at the nationals, and that was it, if something happened, he wouldn't have how to repair the ninja so he trusted his worthy JP.
I've been very patient with the release of the 12 size and if taking time is the way to provide for top of the line performance, and customer satisfaction of course, then be it!

Chris West 07-10-2006 10:04 PM

any news on the MRT01?

bhambrent 07-11-2006 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Chris West
any news on the MRT01?

:nod: :nod: :nod: :sneaky:

ZELOKO 07-11-2006 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by bhambrent
:nod: :nod: :nod: :sneaky:

goood quetions....

but, a ninja is a kind of ghost.. difficult to find... anyone have seen a ninja.. ? ?

only on the Karate Movies !!!

well... at least here in Brazil...

:lol: :cry: :D

bhambrent 07-11-2006 03:22 PM

:lol: :lol: LOTFLMAO :lol: :lol:

Good point :nod:

wallyedmonds 07-11-2006 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by TPB
Does anybody know why Mike Swauger didnt run a Ninja at the 1/10th ROAR Nationals? I heard that it wasnt fast enough so he used his trusty JP?

i dont think he had one and i was tolld the motor has a prob with the con rod, so there gona make it with a bushing idono but it should be out soon or now.

bam167 07-12-2006 07:17 AM

Ninja 21 Onroad
 
Well i pick up a ninja motor about 2 weeks ago and this weekend that pass i started to break it in which was the onroad 21 motor. As so as i got home i notice that in the case which the motor came with there was an extra shim. Just wondering whats the reason for this extra shim and sould i add it to the motor. I'm running 30% Mugen Fuel .

Jamie Corrado 07-12-2006 07:43 AM

Bino,
Get my # from Mikey and give me a call. I'll set the engine up proper for you.


Originally Posted by bam167
Well i pick up a ninja motor about 2 weeks ago and this weekend that pass i started to break it in which was the onroad 21 motor. As so as i got home i notice that in the case which the motor came with there was an extra shim. Just wondering whats the reason for this extra shim and sould i add it to the motor. I'm running 30% Mugen Fuel .


bam167 07-12-2006 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Jamie Corrado
Bino,
Get my # from Mikey and give me a call. I'll set the engine up proper for you.

OK i'll give mikey a call. thanks Jamie Just trying to lay the law down on the 8th scale ;)

Riketsu 07-13-2006 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
i dont think he had one and i was tolld the motor has a prob with the con rod, so there gona make it with a bushing idono but it should be out soon or now.

No, Mike had one at nationals. I'm 99.9% sure. Dont think that Mugen was going to risk a huge race like this one with a new engine that they had received not long ago. Mike/Mugen have their reasons for not using the Ninja in the race. But Mike did try it a few times on track.

Riketsu 07-16-2006 04:18 AM

Just saw two Ninjas .21 run at my track yesterday during qualifying day. All I can say is that I had trouble following the cars with my sight from the pits. Both of them were flying on the straight and on the turns. I'll let you know the outcome of the races today.

Corse-R 07-16-2006 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Riketsu
Just saw two Ninjas .21 run at my track yesterday during qualifying day. All I can say is that I had trouble following the cars with my sight from the pits. Both of them were flying on the straight and on the turns. I'll let you know the outcome of the races today.

Hehehe... is what I'm trying to explain since more than a month. Are considered 'soft' and lacking of punch, but the chrono doesn't lies... many people is faster with them... is a powerband 'strange' because it feels soft, but is the lack of grunt what makes wonders around the track.

This for many people isn't enough, if their heatsink isn't signed by JP or others will think that's worthless. Ok... their is the option of burning >650 US$ on mills with more grunt. :rolleyes:

Riketsu 07-16-2006 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Corse-R
Hehehe... is what I'm trying to explain since more than a month. Are considered 'soft' and lacking of punch, but the chrono doesn't lies... many people is faster with them... is a powerband 'strange' because it feels soft, but is the lack of grunt what makes wonders around the track.

This for many people isn't enough, if their heatsink isn't signed by JP or others will think that's worthless. Ok... their is the option of burning >650 US$ on mills with more grunt. :rolleyes:

Well, the 2 Ninjas ran by Joaquin de Soto Jr. and Sr. won first and second. Both engines were blazing fast during the main. The only car that I can say that was as fast as these two bad boys was Roniel's 960 with a DSII.

performula 07-22-2006 07:41 PM

These look beautiful in their photos. No one has the .12 yet?

Seisick 08-02-2006 04:40 PM

the 12 will be released at the end of september for sure, shipping will begin first week worldwide.
price lists for us dealers will be released the last week of august
I hope it's as fast as my os TZ GPP R4 tuned by AFM!

happy racing!

mrgsr 08-03-2006 02:24 AM

im looking to getting one of these ninja on road .21s
the japanese kondo modified version

how are these ninja .21s going ? ive heard many people say they just dont have the power but surely after all the development put into these they must be good..

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/kondocustom.htm

how do the ninja engines compare to the rex 321p tuned ?

thanks for your help
John

choisan 08-03-2006 04:03 AM

I know 2 major Japanese modifiers: One is Kondo and the other is M Speed, the former one is less cosmetic & visual, the latter one is a little bit extra, always make all the metal parts shiny and grossy but also very fast. http://www.mspeed-jp.com/
But Kondo is definitely a very good modified engine, faster than JP from what i saw.

mrgsr 08-08-2006 05:16 AM

how is run time and engine life so far on these engines ??

just trying to work out what .21 engine to get next for my mrx4

thanks

ND 08-08-2006 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by mrgsr
how is run time and engine life so far on these engines ??

just trying to work out what .21 engine to get next for my mrx4

thanks

I've been using the Ninja R01 since it's release in April. The engine is really good, very good power and they are lasting really well.

The two things that have really impressed me is the ease of tuning and the strength of the glow plugs. The settings stay so consistant over the days racing and they are really easy to set up.

Overall the engine is very good, the quality of parts is really good and the finish of the engine is as good if not better than anything else out there.

choisan 08-08-2006 09:01 PM

The only thing I woould worry is the conrod, the boss and the falcon's both do not have copper bushing at the end which connected to the pin inside the piston, compared to Novarossi. I do not know it would affect the durability of not.
But, from what i have seen, even the Falcon's, it was as fast as the Max's XR and JP R03. At the price point, I would give it a "plus".

kitracer 08-09-2006 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by choisan
, it was as fast as the Max's XR and JP R03. At the price point, I would give it a "plus".

Really!!! :sneaky:
I c u this week and show me :lol:

finchy 08-09-2006 02:34 AM

I've been runnning the r-01 for quite a while now and the only thing that I've got doubt's about are the qauilty of the rear bearings.

choisan 08-09-2006 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by kitracer
Really!!! :sneaky:
I c u this week and show me :lol:

Ok! You get a 1/8? :lol: Let's play together.


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