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Resqnu 02-15-2011 09:46 AM

Mugen MBX6 clutch question?
 
I am new to nitro. I have a MBX6 with Nova BF engine and 14 t clutch bell. I have a mugen fly wheel with new mugen black 3 shoes installed with 1 race day on them. I need info on current shoes/clutch system.
1. When do I need to replace the mugen shoes? (Measurement)
2. What shoes do you recommend?
3. Do you guys recommend a different clutch system.

rustyrevo 02-16-2011 07:52 AM

hi i have the same car and engine and flywheel you have except i use the dynamite max life shoe's with .9 springs. i replace when the bevel part on the shoe is gone or about every 2-2.5 gallons. i see no need to run a different clutch if you are just starting out.

mayhem04 02-16-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Resqnu (Post 8656831)
I am new to nitro. I have a MBX6 with Nova BF engine and 14 t clutch bell. I have a mugen fly wheel with new mugen black 3 shoes installed with 1 race day on them. I need info on current shoes/clutch system.
1. When do I need to replace the mugen shoes? (Measurement)
2. What shoes do you recommend?
3. Do you guys recommend a different clutch system.

Resqnu I like the werks 4 shoe lite or med clutch the best. It gives you a lot more tuning options and the shoes last alot long. I have ran it with both alu and with 2 alu and 2 carbon shoes. it just depends what you are looking for. A good starting point would be two alu with 1.0 springs and two .9 on the carbon. What that does is makes the clutch not hit as hard and gives you less tire spin :tire:. Now if you want something that hits harder run the all alu shoes with 1.0 or .9 springs .9 is not going to hit as hard as the 1.0 springs. If thats something that you might want youll need the 34mm clutch. also unless your running on a large open track I would go to the 13 tooth clutch bell its going to give you a little bit more bottom end running the the nove 21 bf. If you go with the werks clutch system you will need to pick a new clutch bells because the mbx6 bell is to long. So something like a ofna bell works great. if you have any questions about the werks clutch feel free to ask me questions or any of the other Werks Racing Team Drives. If nothing else run the Mugen Clutch until its time to replace shoes and just order a new 4 shoe clutch system.

dishsoap 02-16-2011 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by mayhem04 (Post 8662843)
Resqnu I like the werks 4 shoe lite or med clutch the best. It gives you a lot more tuning options and the shoes last alot long. I have ran it with both alu and with 2 alu and 2 carbon shoes. it just depends what you are looking for. A good starting point would be two alu with 1.0 springs and two .9 on the carbon. What that does is makes the clutch not hit as hard and gives you less tire spin :tire:. Now if you want something that hits harder run the all alu shoes with 1.0 or .9 springs .9 is not going to hit as hard as the 1.0 springs. If thats something that you might want youll need the 34mm clutch. also unless your running on a large open track I would go to the 13 tooth clutch bell its going to give you a little bit more bottom end running the the nove 21 bf. If you go with the werks clutch system you will need to pick a new clutch bells because the mbx6 bell is to long. So something like a ofna bell works great. if you have any questions about the werks clutch feel free to ask me questions or any of the other Werks Racing Team Drives. If nothing else run the Mugen Clutch until its time to replace shoes and just order a new 4 shoe clutch system.

Agreed 100% could not be more spot on. Go Werks clutch once your mugen needs changing. The ease of the werks clutch on servicing is second to none.

portyansky 02-16-2011 06:40 PM

If you are new to nitro, keep it simple and go with your current setup.

merdith6 02-16-2011 07:06 PM

Yep
 
You can buy replacement shoes if you need to. Mugen makes the hard alluminum shoes that are really good.

jmaxey51 02-16-2011 07:37 PM

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ben73 02-16-2011 07:40 PM

when using the werks clutch is there any clutch bells that allow a large rear bearing?

mayhem04 02-17-2011 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by ben73 (Post 8665517)
when using the werks clutch is there any clutch bells that allow a large rear bearing?

Ben so far the only clutch bell that will not work is the Mugen Mbx6 and MBX6t bell and thats because its to long and will hit the tank with the stock motor mounts . So what you would want to do is find a bell with the larger rear bearing and you should be good to go.

ben73 02-17-2011 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by mayhem04 (Post 8667433)
Ben so far the only clutch bell that will not work is the Mugen Mbx6 and MBX6t bell and thats because its to long and will hit the tank with the stock motor mounts . So what you would want to do is find a bell with the larger rear bearing and you should be good to go.

so the losi bell will fit? has anyone tried this with the works clutch

Resqnu 02-17-2011 06:42 PM

Thanks for all your input. I am going to purchase the VP-Pro shoes, until I get more experience under my belt.

jmaxey51 02-17-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by ben73 (Post 8669725)
so the losi bell will fit? has anyone tried this with the works clutch

no ... the ascendancy CBs have the 5x11 bearings in the 15T and up ... but dont have the 5x10 front, both bearings are 5x11 ... IMHO im getting way more life out of bearings and all with 5x10s , the bigger bearings seemed to fail more on me.

merdith6 02-17-2011 10:02 PM

Yep
 
I would get the Mugen Hard shoes with Kyosho 1.0 springs....Best setup.

too twisted 02-18-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by merdith6 (Post 8665299)
You can buy replacement shoes if you need to. Mugen makes the hard alluminum shoes that are really good.

+1. These things last longer than any other clutch shoe I have ran:nod:


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