Dude I know you two are not just joking around..... You have nothing but malicious intent with your posts and you can't say otherwise.......I have nothing to hide about my engines, all my customers will tell you that... You may call it a bandwagon, but I call it the results of a job well done...I work very hard, i take great care of my customers and put out some very sweet engines that have made hundreds of people very happy...... At this point in time you two are just haters...So when you ask me what club you belong to, I would have to say the haters club !

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thats a rippin tune !!

Trust me if my intentions where malicious I would have posted in the werks thread. I don't intend to bash him or his company. How ever I do challenge your claims as to how "your" engines stack up to the high dollar mills. So far all we hear is " the engine ran well for me but I just couln't get it done"

I am by no means a hater. honestly what could I hate on? Really

Well, considering everyone got beat by an Alpha sorry Orion, I'm not sure where the argument comes in??? WTF, how bout go beat your own chest in the OS thread then.

I'm an OS guy and I don't talk any smack on the Werks stuff or Neal. His mills seems to run well and make great power. I don't see anything wrong with people liking either. I think OS is over-priced just like the Mugen I drive. It is what it is. Drive what you like but don't throw stones in the direction of the competition. It's what makes us all able to get the best stuff at a decent price.

I know I've personally seen several Alpha's run REALLY strong at our place. Cheap mills that make good power. I've not run a werks mill or an alpha or orion but I'm as open to running whatever makes me fastest on the track regardless of price.

itbvolks you may want to go back a few pages to get the full understanding of this. it is what it is. just like kyosho. When you consistantly win you can charge more. Some one will be happy to pay the price for it. peace of mind is priceless

Be yourself by yourself stay Away from ME!!!!!!!! Awesome jam, and has a good message to the ClockWorks haters..

Now back on topic. Neal, do you have any plans for modding any other motors anytime soon??

I'd be real interested in seeing what can be done with Orion Alpha, the $169 ones..

I enjoy modding these engines, so I am always open to modding something new...without seeing the engine firsthand its difficult to make any predictions, but if you want to send one in I would be glad to go thru it...

Lord help the crippled.....

I may just do that.. Right now I can't decide which engine I want, CRE B5 or B6 or one of these Orion Motors..

Dang decisions..

And the little pigmees down in new guinea.

for Buggy or Truggy ?

IMHO its going to be tough to beat the B5 or B6 at that price point !

An Orion engine did just win the worlds...