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Originally Posted by xc7
(Post 10337318)
Great, now people are going to think we carry Slurpee's too :lol:
Coke and Orange Please. :lol: |
Neal Andys P5 was on his doorstep today, man that's some very fast service..
He said thanks for everything, and is looking foward to running it this weekend. Putiing in my order early next week.. Thanks... |
Originally Posted by RC-BATT
(Post 10338406)
Neal Andys P5 was on his doorstep today, man that's some very fast service..
He said thanks for everthing, and is looking foward to running it this weekend. Putiing in my order early next week.. Thanks... |
Looking forward to that Bonito Neal!
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Clocked P5XLT Testing
I met Neal and John from Clockwork Racing Engines up in Winnipeg, Manitoba last summer and since then Neal and I have kept in regular contact. Actually he has been a pain in the ass. Keeps wanting me to buy a Clocked Nova P5XLT when he knows I’m an OS Speed guy since OS started producing them. What the hell. I bought one and for the past 2 weeks I have been running it at Fear Farm trying different pipes, clutch set ups and plugs on my Kyosho MP9 TKI2 buggy. So far this is what I have found:
Test #1 – dry track Werks #6 plug M2C light weight clutch with maximum set screws, 2 x 0.9 and 2 x 0.95 springs, regular shoes O’Donnell 30% Speed Blend Fuel Nova 2096 pipe With this setup my buggy is smooth as silk. Perfect for dry or blue groove tracks (if you control your throttle finger). Does not waste fuel and power by ballooning and spinning tires. Basically just puts power to the ground. However, even with this mild setup, I still have to be very sensitive to the power this beast has. It’s extremely easy to tune. Can run it anywhere from 210 – 270 degrees. Getting about 10 minute run times after 2 gallons of fuel. Test #2 – moist track Same setup as test #1 except: Replacing the pipe with an OS 2060. Removing all fly wheel set screws More power than test #1 especially on the bottom to mid range. Estimating top around the same. Sounds mean. Front end lifts quickly and tires slightly balloon. Getting about 9 1/2 minute run times. Very nice to drive once you get used to the power. Test #3 – just watered track Same setup as test #2 except: Nova plug that came with the motor OS 2050 pipe with twin 90 degree manifold. This thing is crazy fast off the bottom end. Punch it on any little bump and the buggy is doing wheelies. I had to be very careful with my throttle finger, otherwise my buggy was doing donuts after every turn. Drivers with a higher skill level than me would probably love the power. Around 9 minute run times. OS speed versus Clocked P5XLT: Guessing from the pinch on the P5, after 2 gallons of fuel, I will get at least 6-8 gallons out of it. Speed I get about 3. Top speed – The P5 is nuts. I’m guessing the Clocked P5 is going 5,000 – 7,000 more rpm than the Speed. (from my keen sense of hearing!) - Wished there was a way to measure this. Price – Clocked P5 - $300 (if rpm is 42,000 this is $7.14 per 1,000 rpm and if it lasts a minimum of 6 gallons this $50/gallon) -Stock Speed - $500 (if rpm is 35,000 this is $14.29 per 1,000 rpm and if it only lasts 3 gallons this is $167/gallon) The only pluses I can give the Speed is the ease of break in and I think even Neal would admit the Speed has top quality internals. Conclusion The only Speeds I will be using are the ones I already have. Clocked P5XLT will be my engine of choice. |
Moxley, you got a PM about a certian pit caddy you grew fond of at the last dome race. ;)
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Originally Posted by rider313
(Post 10339863)
Moxley, you got a PM about a certian pit caddy you grew fond of at the last dome race. ;)
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Originally Posted by Retired09
(Post 10339621)
I met Neal and John from Clockwork Racing Engines up in Winnipeg, Manitoba last summer and since then Neal and I have kept in regular contact. Actually he has been a pain in the ass. Keeps wanting me to buy a Clocked Nova P5XLT when he knows I’m an OS Speed guy since OS started producing them. What the hell. I bought one and for the past 2 weeks I have been running it at Fear Farm trying different pipes, clutch set ups and plugs on my Kyosho MP9 TKI2 buggy. So far this is what I have found:
Test #1 – dry track Werks #6 plug M2C light weight clutch with maximum set screws, 2 x 0.9 and 2 x 0.95 springs, regular shoes O’Donnell 30% Speed Blend Fuel Nova 2096 pipe With this setup my buggy is smooth as silk. Perfect for dry or blue groove tracks (if you control your throttle finger). Does not waste fuel and power by ballooning and spinning tires. Basically just puts power to the ground. However, even with this mild setup, I still have to be very sensitive to the power this beast has. It’s extremely easy to tune. Can run it anywhere from 210 – 270 degrees. Getting about 10 minute run times after 2 gallons of fuel. Test #2 – moist track Same setup as test #1 except: Replacing the pipe with an OS 2060. Removing all fly wheel set screws More power than test #1 especially on the bottom to mid range. Estimating top around the same. Sounds mean. Front end lifts quickly and tires slightly balloon. Getting about 9 1/2 minute run times. Very nice to drive once you get used to the power. Test #3 – just watered track Same setup as test #2 except: Nova plug that came with the motor OS 2050 pipe with twin 90 degree manifold. This thing is crazy fast off the bottom end. Punch it on any little bump and the buggy is doing wheelies. I had to be very careful with my throttle finger, otherwise my buggy was doing donuts after every turn. Drivers with a higher skill level than me would probably love the power. Around 9 minute run times. OS speed versus Clocked P5XLT: Guessing from the pinch on the P5, after 2 gallons of fuel, I will get at least 6-8 gallons out of it. Speed I get about 3. Top speed – The P5 is nuts. I’m guessing the Clocked P5 is going 5,000 – 7,000 more rpm than the Speed. (from my keen sense of hearing!) - Wished there was a way to measure this. Price – Clocked P5 - $300 (if rpm is 42,000 this is $7.14 per 1,000 rpm and if it lasts a minimum of 6 gallons this $50/gallon) -Stock Speed - $500 (if rpm is 35,000 this is $14.29 per 1,000 rpm and if it only lasts 3 gallons this is $167/gallon) The only pluses I can give the Speed is the ease of break in and I think even Neal would admit the Speed has top quality internals. Conclusion The only Speeds I will be using are the ones I already have. Clocked P5XLT will be my engine of choice. |
Great write up Bill! I still want to know how you left Arizona last summer summer as a so-so driver and came back to kick everyone's butt at the track every week! :weird:
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Originally Posted by Jaz240
(Post 10340670)
Great write up Bill! I still want to know how you left Arizona last summer summer as a so-so driver and came back to kick everyone's butt at the track every week! :weird:
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Well...I am really thinking about ordering one of Clockwork's Novarossi Bonito .21-7XLB engines for my Kyosho EVO Truggy and was probably going to go with the OFNA 086...especially after seeing one of the videos with this particular setup. The thing is...the track I'm currently riding at is a little on the smaller side but does have a couple of nice long straight aways.
From what I have read...the 086 is based more on top end correct? because to me low end has always been more important to me. I do have an O.S. T-2060 pipe...would this pipe perhaps be a better option? Either way what's super cool is the OFNA pipe is cheap enough so even if I do not care for it it will not break the bank. The Bonito .21-7XLB, however, may be tuned to maybe work better with the 086 pipe...because in the video I saw this engine was definately not lacking low end torque at all from what I could tell. Anyway for any input on trying out an O.S. T-2060 or any other pipes that could be recommended thanks in advance. :cool: |
Originally Posted by ShadowX
(Post 10340735)
Well...I am really thinking about ordering one of Clockwork's Novarossi Bonito .21-7XLB engines for my Kyosho EVO Truggy and was probably going to go with the OFNA 086...especially after seeing one of the videos with this particular setup. The thing is...the track I'm currently riding at is a little on the smaller side but does have a couple of nice long straight aways.
From what I have read...the 086 is based more on top end correct? because to me low end has always been more important to me. I do have an O.S. T-2060 pipe...would this pipe perhaps be a better option? Either way what's super cool is the OFNA pipe is cheap enough so even if I do not care for it it will not break the bank. The Bonito .21-7XLB, however, may be tuned to maybe work better with the 086 pipe...because in the video I saw this engine was definately not lacking low end torque at all from what I could tell. Anyway for any input on trying out an O.S. T-2060 or any other pipes that could be recommended thanks in advance. :cool: its crazy..but even on the OFNA 086 top end pipe the Clocked Bonito has awesome low end torque, probably one of the strongest bottom ends I have seen on any engine shy of a .25.... It actually has better initial low RPM power then my 25 does......We run the 086 because the engine has soo much low end that the 086 seems to give it a well rounded powerband....... And as I say even on the 086 I think you would be hard pressed to find another .21 with this kind of low end power.....It actually ridiculous how strong the engine is at low RPM...... Now of course with the 086 the engine screams like Banshee on crack ! it has a wild top end and sounds really good on the 086/9886 pipes.... The 086/9886 would be the standard that you would compare other pipes against......... edit..just to add, this engine has soo much bottom end that some guys are actually gearing them up 1 tooth on the clutch, and still using them on tight indoor tracks on a 086/9886 pipe...the engine has soo much grunt it can pull extra gear and still clear all the obstacles on a top end 086 pipe...... |
Originally Posted by ShadowX
(Post 10340735)
Well...I am really thinking about ordering one of Clockwork's Novarossi Bonito .21-7XLB engines for my Kyosho EVO Truggy and was probably going to go with the OFNA 086...especially after seeing one of the videos with this particular setup. The thing is...the track I'm currently riding at is a little on the smaller side but does have a couple of nice long straight aways.
From what I have read...the 086 is based more on top end correct? because to me low end has always been more important to me. I do have an O.S. T-2060 pipe...would this pipe perhaps be a better option? Either way what's super cool is the OFNA pipe is cheap enough so even if I do not care for it it will not break the bank. The Bonito .21-7XLB, however, may be tuned to maybe work better with the 086 pipe...because in the video I saw this engine was definately not lacking low end torque at all from what I could tell. Anyway for any input on trying out an O.S. T-2060 or any other pipes that could be recommended thanks in advance. :cool: |
Originally Posted by J.Sears
(Post 10340766)
I run the 086 on my CRE Bonito and trust me when I say this, you don't need a bottom end pipe for this engine. It has a tone of power on the bottom end. I have really never owned a nova before this bonito, now I have 2 bonito's and a P5 that will be at my front door Friday sometime. Enjoy you'll love it!
That is what I wanted to hear. As soon as my money in PayPal is available (Apparantly when selling items on EBay it takes a long azz time before I can even touch the funds) I will be ordering immediately...I think I will be ordering the recommended clutch shoes, glow plugs, and 30% fuel listed on their website. Cool...can't wait. :cool: |
Originally Posted by Maximo
(Post 10340764)
its crazy..but even on the OFNA 086 top end pipe the Clocked Bonito has awesome low end torque, probably one of the strongest bottom ends I have seen on any engine shy of a .25.... It actually has better initial low RPM power then my 25 does......We run the 086 because the engine has soo much low end that the 086 seems to give it a well rounded powerband....... And as I say even on the 086 I think you would be hard pressed to find another .21 with this kind of low end power.....It actually ridiculous how strong the engine is at low RPM...... Now of course with the 086 the engine screams like Banshee on crack ! it has a wild top end and sounds really good on the 086/9886 pipes.... The 086/9886 would be the standard that you would compare other pipes against.........
edit..just to add, this engine has soo much bottom end that some guys are actually gearing them up 1 tooth on the clutch, and still using them on tight indoor tracks on a 086/9886 pipe...the engine has soo much grunt it can pull extra gear and still clear all the obstacles on a top end 086 pipe...... Okay already you talked me into it! Hehe Just ordered one with recommended accessories. I am definately looking forward to receiving this engine. People at the track are going to be jealous...heck they are already jealous because I am one of the few who only races Kyosho. Like I always say...spend more and go with the best. :cool: |
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