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CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 07:00 AM

COMPETITION HEAT INC.
 
Our product is due to release in early march, our goal is to be ready for PNB. Since there is a buzz about engine heaters, here is our official announcement.

Competition Heat Inc. is proud to introduce the .21 R/C racing engine heater. This technologically advanced R/C racing engine heater is the results of 40+ years racing experience by it's designers. The Competition Heat .21 engine heater offers some of the same technologies used by the aerospace industry, Formula 1, Indy car and NASCAR teams.

The Company. Competition Heat Inc. is excited to be part of the growing R/C racing community. Competition Heat's inception is a direct result of the economic down turn of late 2008. After being laid off from the racing industry (NASCAR Nationwide Series) in Feb of 2009, the founder/owner decided to R and D a concept used in the upper levels of motorsports. An avid R/C racer himself since 1993, he's had the opportunity and privilege of racing at tracks in southern California like The Ranch Pit Shop, M@M and Revelation.

The Competition Heat .21 engine heater is an idea that was conceived a few years ago and has been thoroughly tested with Superior results on .21 racing engines. Our goal is to provide our customers with a superior product and technology that will maximize Life and Performance of R/C racing engines.

We will post some sneek peek pics later in the day...

jjshbetz11 02-16-2010 07:09 AM

looking forward to the pics:nod:

looper 02-16-2010 07:11 AM

only 2 posts, both on selling a product. good start!

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by looper (Post 7013166)
only 2 posts, both on selling a product. good start!

We are far from being new to R/C tech... just decided to use the company name as a new username.

RAlmeida 02-16-2010 07:18 AM

Pictures and specs would be nice

MotoGod 02-16-2010 07:54 AM

Your goal is to be ready for PNB...does this mean you will have some for sale there? I'll be there....and was just looking at another engine heater. If yours will be reasonably priced, and more advanced....I may look into it ;-)

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by MotoGod (Post 7013330)
Your goal is to be ready for PNB...does this mean you will have some for sale there? I'll be there....and was just looking at another engine heater. If yours will be reasonably priced, and more advanced....I may look into it ;-)

At this time we are right on track to to attend PNB. This heater has some really cool features. We are reluctant to release every feature and detail at this time because we have worked long and hard at testing and the design of the heater. We know we have to let the cat out of the bag, but we want to wait as close to the release date as possible. It will not disappoint. We will have a pic. up soon. Thanks.

looper 02-16-2010 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by CompetitionHeat (Post 7013192)
We are far from being new to R/C tech... just decided to use the company name as a new username.


Thats cool. sorry about that, just with the almost daily flood of new accounts selling this and that on here my trigger finger is a little twitchy.

houston 02-16-2010 08:46 AM

I must say that heater is a good idea

I am sure this is the powerhouse heater , have you seen another?

Good luck in your endeavors and I will spread the word when I see a more finished product

Happy motorin',
Monty

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by looper (Post 7013498)
Thats cool. sorry about that, just with the almost daily flood of new accounts selling this and that on here my trigger finger is a little twitchy.

No problem, I completely understand. Like I said in the first post I started racing in 1993 1/10 nitro truck at The Ranch in pomona, Ca. My background in the racing industry is extensive, from owning a race team to working in the Craftsman truck (at the time it was still Crafteman truck Series) and Nationwide series. In our off seasion (winter) we would race R/C until racing season started. I purchased my first 1/8 scale buggy (Kyosho Kania 3) in 2004. This would be the first time I experimented with the heater technology after seeing it used in upper levels of motorsports, I just did not have the time to develop the heater.

toobad4u 02-16-2010 09:09 AM

I am interested in checking something like this out myself. Now that I am getting a little more serious about racing, I am looking to take better care of my more expensive motors that I would of in the past. I was just running the cheap RTR type motors in the past.
Is it gonna be AC or DC powered? Any idea on how much $$$$?

Thanks,
Stephen

rcfoxhound 02-16-2010 09:30 AM

I too am interested,have the other heater already,but need another 2.When is the pnb.Thanks

Who8mySandwich 02-16-2010 09:35 AM

AYE, I want one

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 7013562)
I must say that heater is a good idea

I am sure this is the powerhouse heater , have you seen another?

Good luck in your endeavors and I will spread the word when I see a more finished product

Happy motorin',
Monty

We have only seen a picture posted in another thread. The guy (mark) sounds very knowledgeable and is correct in his analogy of properly heating a racing engine. Effective heat saturation of critical internals, crank, con rod, piston and sleeve are key to racing engine life and performance. Thank's for the well wishes Monty...

rageworks 02-16-2010 12:22 PM

So your new engine heater is not the same one that
PowerHouse is marketing? Do you or your company
have any affiliation with Mark at PowerHouse at all?
Is there any data on the tests you have preformed
on your new engine heaters?

Kalgard Racing 02-16-2010 01:54 PM

THIS IS NOT THE SAME HEATER!!! Sorry, please give this guy a break. He is not new to RC Tech, his company is a new company so he created a new screen name. What are you guys forum Nazi's:rolleyes:

I have seen the Comp Heat Heater, watched all the development and it is Extemely High Tech!! It heats the motors over 200 deg. and is safe to use. It can be taken off at 200 deg. by bare hands, no gloves, no cool down etc. It also retains heat after the power has been turned off.

This will be "the" heater to own.


I am not knocking any other products to heat the engine, but this thing is so cool and there is no comparison. This comes from NASCAR technology and has been well though out by someone that loves RC cars and will be a great guy to deal with. Yes I know him and he is Legit!

jjshbetz11 02-16-2010 02:08 PM

where are the pics at?

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by rageworks (Post 7014533)
So your new engine heater is not the same one that
PowerHouse is marketing? Do you or your company
have any affiliation with Mark at PowerHouse at all?
Is there any data on the tests you have preformed
on your new engine heaters?

We have no affiliation and our heater looks nothing like the heater he (Markets) Although we have never seen an advertisement. Our development of this heater for the R/C car industry stems from our experience in the racing industry. Every racing engine I have owned, and every racing engine in any racing series is pre heated before firing. The reasons and benifits are a mile long. Purchase two identical .21 racing engines, pre heat one everytime before firing and cold start the other engine each time and after 3, 5, 10 gallons the results will speak for itself.

Kalgard Racing 02-16-2010 02:15 PM

I just spoke with him. This is in the final stages before they go on sale for purchase. Eric is very meticulous, Drives me crazy sometimes. LOL He is wanting to take the time and put together a "Photo Shoot" quality bunch of pics. I could post the one that I have right now.....but I promised not to. :mad:

Like I said, This is Legit, not a side project, and I have watched the development from start to finish product which has been over 6 months just for the RC Heater. Testing, product specs etc has all been done and it is very close to hitting the tracks.

wallot 02-16-2010 02:17 PM

I will always support people who make interesting RC products but this is like the revolutionary shocks thread. whats the point starting a thread without giving at least some details. Show us the product when it's ready to ship :flaming:

http://hdforums.com/forum/attachment...ut-pichers.jpg

rageworks 02-16-2010 02:17 PM

No forum Natzi here Kalguard. All I asked was three
simple questions. So who is being the forum Natzi?
Me or You? Why don't you please let the man
answer the questions asked of him his self.
Let's see a vid, pics, anything that wiil prove
it's better than the rest and worth my money.
Find someone that knows how to market your
product properly and you won't be able to keep
them in stock. Unlike others that didn't and have
plenty of them collecting dust on the stock room
shelf.

HiVoltg12 02-16-2010 02:27 PM

Wow....give him a chance - Could they have waited to start a thread? Yes. But i know the feeling of being excited about a new product and wanting to get the word out.

If he had posted up after the PNB and nobody knew that he was there with a new product there would be posts about 'Gee - I wish I knew that you were there so I could have seen it in person'.

I race indoor in the winter so I'm interested. Frankly I think that the Powerhouse warmer looks a bit unprofessional so I'll be interested to see how this one works.

<----- Patiently waiting for pics - You should wait an extra day just to spite the nay-sayers!

Kalgard Racing 02-16-2010 02:27 PM

Maybe I am just grumpy. Anyway, I get what your saying, but since the Heater Thread broke and this one is so close to being available, I told him to start a thread and get some intrest and discussion going. I didn't think the pics would be a big deal. Anyway, all good and I hope the pics come soon:o

blktransam 02-16-2010 02:57 PM

as hivoltg said the powerhouse heater look VERY genaric and i would never drop that kind of coin on that heater...I preheat my engines in the winter and the summer why not? they start easier,last longer, and just get up to temp that much quicker...I am very interested to see what this heater is like and if it is not a arm and a leg for a genaric ass looking strap on, then count me in for one.

Ryan

PowerHouse 02-16-2010 03:02 PM

Cool deal, good to see someone else out there who believes in what I have for so long. I won't lie, competition will make it more difficult especially when it took me over 2 years to convince enough people they are worth the investment and that they actually do prolong the engine's life. Selling an item like this is tough because people look at them as a luxery instead of a neccessity and most people will put there money into a pipe, battery, vehicle upgrades etc. before they consider the heaters. I am interested myself to see what this new product looks like and if you guys keep it reasonably priced, you should have no problem selling it. The main reason mine is so simplistic is for several reasons first being everyone of them is hand made and anyone that knows how much more time and energy is required to hand make something will agree. The other big reason is because it has been such a hard idea to sell to people, we didn't feel it was the right time to dive in and make hundreds at a time keeping the prices lower when selling 10 was a chore at times. We haven't seen the new one in action yet but if it is what they are making it sound like, it sounds like it should be a very nice product and if you guys are able to afford mass poroducing them to keep price down and have enough confidence that you will sell enough of them to amke it worth your time, then I'm all for it. I just did the heaters as more of convience and to have something noone else had and it worked well up to this point as far as traffic to my business and they are hardly a big money maker as I barely charged much over what they costed to make because they were so hard to sell at their current price to begin with. In all honesty, I look forward to seeing what they look and work like as alot of us do. I am also interested in the out the door pricing because depending what the new heater costs compared to mine, maybe we can co-exist? If yours is nicer than mine and around the same price, the heck with mine:lol: I'm onboard;)

thenova70ss 02-16-2010 03:12 PM

You the MAN MARK.

rkhess 02-16-2010 03:13 PM

Ive seen pics of the powerhouse and I seen the comp heat(prototype) in person ...both do the same thing but are totaly different

im sure the powerhouse is a great product.....im also sure that some will prefer the comp heat model....like apple's to oranges booth are fruit but look and taste different...and a heat gun is the bannana:lol:

PowerHouse 02-16-2010 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by blktransam (Post 7015167)
as hivoltg said the powerhouse heater look VERY genaric and i would never drop that kind of coin on that heater...I preheat my engines in the winter and the summer why not? they start easier,last longer, and just get up to temp that much quicker...I am very interested to see what this heater is like and if it is not a arm and a leg for a genaric ass looking strap on, then count me in for one.

Ryan

I can understand why you would feel that way and I agree, mine is very simplistic but it works like clockwork. Like I stated in a very recent post, they are handmade, they took years to sell people on the idea so it wasn't like I was going to invest big money in high tech equipment to make something most people would turn their noses up too anyway. They were handmade in limited quantities for those who wanted them. Anytime one of you guys who like to run their mouth because making money in this brutally competative world is so easy, step up to the plate and contribute instead of talking smack about every product you see. If it wasn't for the people who cared enough, you wouldn't have any of this cool stuff to play with and obviously our passion is bigger than most as we continue to put up with more BS than it is worth most times to continue serving those who want and desire it. I'm not one to talk smack as it is not my gig, but enough is enough don't you think? Noone is putting a gun to your head and telling you buy anything so why would it even bother you if certain things don't look the way you think they should? No matter, I'm sure some of you have the perfect idea, way and ability to produce the perfect product for the perfect price that everyone will absolutely love and buy. Until that day happens, I will just keep plugging along and while I am doing that, I will take my perfectly built Toyota Tundra to the dealer for another recall because the 500 perfect engineers at Toyota nailed it the first time:rolleyes: I love my truck and wouldn't trade for anything else, just giving you an example of how the real world works.

Back to the OP, I wish you the best luck and I will repeat the fact that I am also looking forward to seeing what this new device will do:nod:

blktransam 02-16-2010 03:30 PM

Mark how about you keep your comments on your product in your thread?...instead of hijacking this one..you sir are ignorant and I will never buy a product from you, and will express that to anyone that ever brings up your product locally or in my presence! I never said your heater was junk, I said it looked genaric and for the money I would not buy it which is my persoanl opnion that I am entitled to....enough is enough?!?! taht was the first time I ever even said anything about your heater..gee wizz

Ryan

rkhess 02-16-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by rageworks (Post 7014533)
Is there any data on the tests you have preformed
on your new engine heaters?

heat guns work but a heat gun is very hard to heat the engine evenly and heats it a little to fast

as far as data it would be hard to Mr CompHeat to show his research from his full scale teams you either believe in solid state physics or you dont ...watch the snowboarding movie "outcold" the part with the guy in the hot tub it convinced me;)

JBURCH 02-16-2010 03:36 PM

That is not hijacking a thread when he is talking about the same type of product. And I believe calling his a "generic ass looking strap on" would be calling it junk. And he called you on it now your all defensive gee whiz. Sure the sponsors like that talk bashing someone elses products.

boomgagem 02-16-2010 03:37 PM

Well, regardless of how Mark's product looks, it works perfectly.

To the Thread starter, where are you from? I see you mentioning the PNB, are you in GA? What was your prior screen name?

I'll be at the PNB, and I'd love to see what you've got going. There is no harm no foul in a little competition , that is what makes product better.

PowerHouse 02-16-2010 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by blktransam (Post 7015296)
Mark how about you keep your comments on your product in your thread?...instead of hijacking this one..you sir are ignorant and I will never buy a product from you, and will express that to anyone that ever brings up your product locally or in my presence! I never said your heater was junk, I said it looked genaric and for the money I would not buy it which is my persoanl opnion that I am entitled to....enough is enough?!?! taht was the first time I ever even said anything about your heater..gee wizz

Ryan

Settle down my man. I am not ignorant, I was giving props to Competition Heat for his current idea and look forward to seeing his product and it was also a nice way to show hime what he has to look forward to with people like yourself. I never took you as thinking mine was junk but calling it generic is a nicer way to sugar coat it. It's cool though and as far as hijacking threads, I wasn't trying to do that as Competition Heat didn't do it to the other one and honestly it was titled "engine heater questions" so that could mean anyone or anything used to heat an engine so no offense taken from any party what so ever and as far as you not buying anything from, that's fine, you are entitled to whatever you want to do as this is a free country in loose terms.

If Competition Heat feels my posts are wrong, I will be more than glad to edit them. Not trying to start anything, again just giving props to someone else for having a similar mindset in the world of racing. I will be on my way now;)

blktransam 02-16-2010 03:58 PM

Jburch when did I get defensive? I said it looks genaric am I wrong? no..I never said it did NOT work, I use a hair dryer for a good 5 mins on my engine does not heat it up as fast as a heat gun which is why I do not use a heat gun..I heat my chassis, engine crank case,head everything nice and evenly...to me the price of Marks product is a little high for what you are getting...nothing more nothing less.....

Ryan

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 04:05 PM

Look gentlemen, there is room for everyone in this industry we all love so much. My reasons for developing and investing in this product is because I whole heartedly believe in it. I have always been an average man that was born into a racing family with a great deal of passion for it, my father built racing engines and I can remember watching him spend countless hours working on them and rebuilding them. When I grew up and started a family I got my oldest son involved in racing and understand what it is like racing on a limited budget. One of the first investments I made for our racing program was an engine heater because I could not afford frequent engine rebuilds do to premature wear and tear from firing a cold engine. I learned from my father races are won in the garage, and if you take care of your equipment it will take care of you. So my goals for this company are to make a product that benifits the racer by saving him/her money and makes the racing experience more enjoyable. I firmly believe in supporting the industry that supports your products. We would like nothing more than this product to be successful so we can sponsor and support events, and we will.

Stubbs 02-16-2010 04:14 PM

When are you guys planning to arrive at the PNB? Do you know your set up location yet? I'd like to come by and check out your product.

CompetitionHeat 02-16-2010 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Stubbs (Post 7015510)
When are you guys planning to arrive at the PNB? Do you know your set up location yet? I'd like to come by and check out your product.

We should be there tuesday night or wednesday morning (hopefully we are all caught up) We will be set up next to Kal Gard. This is what our canopy will look like...

DOMIT 02-16-2010 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by blktransam (Post 7015422)
Jburch when did I get defensive? I said it looks genaric am I wrong? no..I never said it did NOT work, I use a hair dryer for a good 5 mins on my engine does not heat it up as fast as a heat gun which is why I do not use a heat gun..I heat my chassis, engine crank case,head everything nice and evenly...to me the price of Marks product is a little high for what you are getting...nothing more nothing less.....

Ryan

Ryan,

No offense... I also thought the way you phrased your remarks was a bit harsh. :)

I would think a "team driver" would use a bit more professional sounding choice of terminology. When you say something that comes across harshly it reflects poorly on your sponsors. :nod:

Just my $.02

As for the PowerHouse heater... pretty or not, I've seen it action and it works nicely. :) I don't have one, but have thought about it. Now I may look at this one.

RAlmeida 02-16-2010 05:07 PM

Enough of this, pics and specs, PLEASE.

WheelNut 02-16-2010 05:19 PM

Hey, guys, shut up with the arguing.

Onto this new heater.

I'm going to buy one of these heaters in a month or so and now there is a new one coming out, cool. Perfect timing Mr.Comp. Heat. Where is the sneek peek pic you promised? Is this going to have an adjustable temperature setting? Do you guys have any distribution plans for the future (besides just selling online from your own website)?
I'm very interested to see what this thing is going to look like. I'm thinking something along the lines of a MuchMore tire warmer for touring cars, but with an engine compatible heater in place of the tire cup/thing. Hopefully the price is decent. I'm predicting this to be the year of the engine pre-heater, because it is something that just makes sense.


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