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HaulinBass 10-25-2016 09:51 PM

might want to try a modded btt, mine has allot more on top and bottom than my keep off4.

jojobda 10-27-2016 07:24 AM

Hey guys, new racer here. I currently have a Triton L4 in my buggy, no issues with it so far, has about 4 or 5 gallons on it. I am interested in getting a "plan b" motor, so that i can have a backup should things go left on a weekend.

some guys at the track have been suggesting a Nova P5, whats the difference between the Clio P5 and the P5XLT? Im looking for something smooth and driveable, with good mileage, durable, tuneable as im fairly new. i am definitely not the fastest and dont look to be, haven't gotten my trigger finger trained yet either.

input or suggestions would be appreciated

am 10-27-2016 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by STUBYSLAP31 (Post 14714750)
Hey guys. I tried searching this thread. Lots of pages and rctech less than great mobile app didn't return much.


I'm needing two engines for next year. For buggy and truck.
This year I've been running an nova based x5, it's a great engine but racing in Colorado at 6,000-6,500ft in elevation it doesn't have the power I'm looking for, especially compared to a speed or reds based mill.

I have enjoyed the quality of my novas though. But every one I've ever owned just hasn't had the power I want. +4btt and fms from back in the day.

So my question. What are the biggest horsepower mills offered right now,

I'm looking at
Mito 7
Bonito
In buggy


And maybe
.25 Roma in truck

Any help would be appreciated.

Hi.

Take off 0,2mm of you headshims when racing at that altitude. Maybe even more. You will get more power ;-)

STLNLST 10-27-2016 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by jojobda (Post 14716482)
Hey guys, new racer here. I currently have a Triton L4 in my buggy, no issues with it so far, has about 4 or 5 gallons on it. I am interested in getting a "plan b" motor, so that i can have a backup should things go left on a weekend.

some guys at the track have been suggesting a Nova P5, whats the difference between the Clio P5 and the P5XLT? Im looking for something smooth and driveable, with good mileage, durable, tuneable as im fairly new. i am definitely not the fastest and dont look to be, haven't gotten my trigger finger trained yet either.

input or suggestions would be appreciated

YGPM

rcmoe 11-01-2016 07:46 PM

Will a mito 4 piston and sleeve work in a legend 4?

nick m 11-01-2016 09:24 PM

is anybody here has any imformation about mito 7 off factory modified...any pictures also from the internals of this engine ...i would like to see what novarossi is calling factory modified these days--

cczjordan 11-02-2016 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by rcmoe (Post 14722719)
Will a mito 4 piston and sleeve work in a legend 4?

Different part number, anyway mito 4 is long stroke. Conclusion, most likely no

rcmoe 11-02-2016 07:25 AM

Yeah I kno the part numbers are diff and stroke is diff. Anybody else hav any
Knowledge on this?

Roelof 11-02-2016 08:05 AM

Basically no but if the diameter of the sleeve is the same then it will fit but you must change the center pin, you also have change the button head. If the timings of the ports are within range is a question but it can be measured and changed. The only thing is that you will have a smaller engine, probably arround 3.3~3.4cc

cczjordan 11-07-2016 03:38 PM

Tko ceramics
 
Does tko have the nova keep off 4 n 7 rear special ceramic bearings? If does, what is the part number

qstorm777 11-07-2016 09:42 PM

My Elite 8 flames when landing a triple (and I am landing the backside of the triple). Any ideas on what causes this? Idle is good and changed plug. I don't believe it's rich.

kuruption 11-07-2016 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14729097)
My Elite 8 flames when landing a triple (and I am landing the backside of the triple). Any ideas on what causes this? Idle is good and changed plug. I don't believe it's rich.

Make sure your flywheel isn't hitting the ground when you land.

cczjordan 11-08-2016 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14729097)
My Elite 8 flames when landing a triple (and I am landing the backside of the triple). Any ideas on what causes this? Idle is good and changed plug. I don't believe it's rich.

Agreed with checking flywheel, anyway make sure ur linkage/idle in working order

aulin79 11-08-2016 07:33 AM

Hello everybody... Anyone know some post or thread about Novarossi Keep Off 21-7 XL ? is there a page in this thread ?
I don't find anything. Thanks

qstorm777 11-08-2016 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by cczjordan (Post 14729334)
Agreed with checking flywheel, anyway make sure ur linkage/idle in working order

Linkage is good. Its a Tekno so flywheel actually sits above the chassis. I'll get some good heat in it and chk idle. I'm about ready to chuck that motor.

HaulinBass 11-08-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by aulin79 (Post 14729378)
Hello everybody... Anyone know some post or thread about Novarossi Keep Off 21-7 XL ? is there a page in this thread ?
I don't find anything. Thanks

What do you want to know about it?

aulin79 11-08-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 14729655)
What do you want to know about it?

I just bought it . And I wanted to know its strengths and weaknesses.

cczjordan 11-08-2016 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by aulin79 (Post 14729774)
I just bought it . And I wanted to know its strengths and weaknesses.

Very smooth engine, imo dont run 9901/41021,very flat on top

aulin79 11-08-2016 01:55 PM

I have an Os Speed 2060 new or an used Alpha Plus 2107...
I think an engine with 7 transfer ports can not be flat on top.

Roelof 11-08-2016 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by aulin79 (Post 14729797)
I think an engine with 7 transfer ports can not be flat on top.

As if you know what the engine does by only the amount of ports......

HaulinBass 11-08-2016 02:59 PM

Mine liked a 41033 with the 2096. like posted above its very smooth but I don't find it to be flat on top with the pipe I run. If your on super high bite you will probably want to run a little stiffer clutch setup to get it punchy.
I feel it runs allot like my protek samurai. mine has the two needle carb with long lsn not the 3 needles most of them come with.

vandalzzz 11-08-2016 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14729622)
Linkage is good. Its a Tekno so flywheel actually sits above the chassis. I'll get some good heat in it and chk idle. I'm about ready to chuck that motor.

It's all about too much flex of the tekno chassis. I had this issue on my NB48, pretty annoying.
Try tighter bell-spur mesh

cczjordan 11-08-2016 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 14729829)
As if you know what the engine does by only the amount of ports......

Doesn't matter with the porting, the pipe is how the powerband make of, 2096 all the way

qstorm777 11-09-2016 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by vandalzzz (Post 14730034)
It's all about too much flex of the tekno chassis. I had this issue on my NB48, pretty annoying.
Try tighter bell-spur mesh

Its the NT...basically a .3 now. Mesh is as tight as I can get it...Elite 8 has a wider base moving the bell farther away from the spur. I ran fine 4 wks ago. Temp has changed (cooler) so the tune is now richer. Was thinking maybe it was too rich, but it doesn't appear to be so. Idk. Anythg else to try? I love the power in this motor especially on trug, but I've had more trouble out of it than any about any motor I've ever owned.

bypass911 11-09-2016 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14730366)
Its the NT...basically a .3 now. Mesh is as tight as I can get it...Elite 8 has a wider base moving the bell farther away from the spur. I ran fine 4 wks ago. Temp has changed (cooler) so the tune is now richer. Was thinking maybe it was too rich, but it doesn't appear to be so. Idk. Anythg else to try? I love the power in this motor especially on trug, but I've had more trouble out of it than any about any motor I've ever owned.

Stock motor mount or m2c mount? Maybe your clutch bearing is shot?

Audiobahnaholic 11-09-2016 11:06 PM

What can I do to get some fuel mileage out of my plus 4 btt wc engine? I'm running a jq car with 3 shoe all aluminum clutch with 1.0 springs all around. 5.4 restrictor, reedy 2035 pipe. 7 1/2 is about its max runtime. I'd like to make 8 1/2 comfortably. I have an ofna 086 with double bend header I could run, or a reds 2104. I guess I don't know the trick to mileage seems everyone runs better than me. I'm also using byrons 30% nitro/8% oilfuel

HaulinBass 11-10-2016 08:18 AM

mine runs 10min easy with a 2096/41033 with 6mm restrictor sidewinder pro blend 30%on a fairly large open track.
just to be sure your carb gap is about half mm, your total throw for the carb is slightly smaller than said restrictor and you have a proper race tune on the lowend?
a difference in 3 minutes is pretty large are you dragging any bearings? i run the tki4 and its not really known for good milage

cczjordan 11-10-2016 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Audiobahnaholic (Post 14731157)
What can I do to get some fuel mileage out of my plus 4 btt wc engine? I'm running a jq car with 3 shoe all aluminum clutch with 1.0 springs all around. 5.4 restrictor, reedy 2035 pipe. 7 1/2 is about its max runtime. I'd like to make 8 1/2 comfortably. I have an ofna 086 with double bend header I could run, or a reds 2104. I guess I don't know the trick to mileage seems everyone runs better than me. I'm also using byrons 30% nitro/8% oilfuel

9901/41021 for best bottom but flat top with good fuel consumption

2096/41021 for softer bottom with good top and almost same fuel consumption to 9901/41021

9886/41021 best powerband but thirsty

Run 7mm venturi, 5.4mm you race on extreme small track?

I believe the tune is messed up, check if lsn is extremely rich

Audiobahnaholic 11-10-2016 08:28 AM

What do you call extremely rich? It had good power with little smoke. I'm a touch out from flush on the hsn and flush on the lsn

HaulinBass 11-10-2016 09:25 AM

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psmlxy6yy6.jpg
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psh076woz8.jpg
thisis where my needles are at 700m elevation both are in from flush

bash bros 11-10-2016 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Audiobahnaholic (Post 14731157)
What can I do to get some fuel mileage out of my plus 4 btt wc engine? I'm running a jq car with 3 shoe all aluminum clutch with 1.0 springs all around. 5.4 restrictor, reedy 2035 pipe. 7 1/2 is about its max runtime. I'd like to make 8 1/2 comfortably. I have an ofna 086 with double bend header I could run, or a reds 2104. I guess I don't know the trick to mileage seems everyone runs better than me. I'm also using byrons 30% nitro/8% oilfuel

Try running a larger venturi. 5.4mm really restricts power and narrows your tuning window. Not only that, but a lot of drivers will just drive more agressively with a smaller carb insert which will negate any run time gains. Somtimes running a larger insert like a 7 or 8mm will make you drive smoother, only squeezing the throttle wot sparingly resulting in better run time. Larger inserts are also have a wider tuning window making it easier to dial in.

cczjordan 11-10-2016 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 14731540)

From your pictures, hsn is very rich, if you put a 7mm venturi, you will notice a lot of smoke. By running 5.4mm you will need to use throttle more often since it lacked power

Audiobahnaholic 11-10-2016 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by cczjordan (Post 14731833)
From your pictures, hsn is very rich, if you put a 7mm venturi, you will notice a lot of smoke. By running 5.4mm you will need to use throttle more often since it lacked power

That's not my engine but mines richer than that on both needles

Audiobahnaholic 11-10-2016 11:01 PM

I just ordered a set of venturis so I can go to 7mm and I put on an Ofna 086 pipe with the double bend manifold hoping it increases power and runtime.

cczjordan 11-13-2016 04:23 PM

Mito 7 crankshaft
 
Recently my cousin toasted his mito 7 engine, i find the crank part number is 15027-T, is it possible to replace it with bonito 15068 crankshaft?

Cant drive 11-13-2016 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by cczjordan (Post 14734365)
Recently my cousin toasted his mito 7 engine, i find the crank part number is 15027-T, is it possible to replace it with bonito 15068 crankshaft?

No because of the offset carb on the Mito

qstorm777 11-14-2016 06:34 PM

About how much life should I get out of the Elite5/8 line of engines? Mine has compression, but not a lot of pinch. Debating on getting a new p/s vs just calling it done if this line doesn't get a lot of life.

cczjordan 11-14-2016 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14735660)
About how much life should I get out of the Elite5/8 line of engines? Mine has compression, but not a lot of pinch. Debating on getting a new p/s vs just calling it done if this line doesn't get a lot of life.

Nova engine with race tune usually 3 gallons / races, more than that i consider godlike tune, 3 gallons / races mean no mysterious flame out or inconsistent power

HaulinBass 11-14-2016 10:21 PM

Ive got two motors with well over that. The btt posted earlier is Closer to five and half to six and a second set of bearings and still will hold its own weight when you hold the motor by the flywheel.that thing has to be the exception to the rule as my keep off 4 which is pretty close to the same motor has about four on it and there is zero mechanical pinch.
I don't think I ever put the too kill tune on the btt but it runs ten easy at the large open local track.

qstorm777 11-15-2016 06:34 AM

Only 3 gal avg for a race tuned engine!!!?? Is that just the Top Elite line or all novas?


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