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RCNitroAddict79 04-08-2014 02:27 PM

May have to look at a 41021/EFRA SS 2096 for the P5XL then since the 9901 comes very close to running out of legs down the back straight at my local track

Would it give increased bottom end compared to the 9901 for clearing jumps effectively?

houston 04-08-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by RCNitroAddict79 (Post 13168549)
May have to look at a 41021/EFRA SS 2096 for the P5XL then since the 9901 comes very close to running out of legs down the back straight at my local track

Would it give increased bottom end compared to the 9901 for clearing jumps effectively?

2096 on p5 is very very good I prefer 41021 but some like the 41019 ,41001 or 41005 on it

TerribleTy 04-08-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 13168692)
2096 on p5 is very very good I prefer 41021 but some like the 41019 ,41001 or 41005 on it

Right on the money, I really like this combo for the P5 as well as the new CLIO P5. Usually I run the 2096 SS with the 41021 as it seems to just always work well. The 9901 is also a very popular combo but it just isn't my favorite. The 9901 seems to give tons of bottom end torque and flatten out the top a bit. I guess if you are on a short track with small approach the 9901 would work but the 2096 is my favorite hands down.

RCNitroAddict79 04-08-2014 10:25 PM

How would the 41021 vary from the 41020 on the 9901?

I'm waiting on the new track lay out to be completed before I make a call, but from what I can gather its going to be a lot faster and more like a euro layout

houston 04-08-2014 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by RCNitroAddict79 (Post 13169845)
How would the 41021 vary from the 41020 on the 9901?

I'm waiting on the new track lay out to be completed before I make a call, but from what I can gather its going to be a lot faster and more like a euro layout

41020 is a very very bottom end header , takes alot of top away

RCNitro13 04-09-2014 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by Camash (Post 13164867)
I am using 25% A T Racing fuel

I had a similar issue with a 4BTTS using AT Racing 25% with only 8L, see my post below.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/12899346-post6293.html

If you read from pages 420-422, you will see the issue I had chasing the tune from the begining. Everyone agreed it was the fuel, you can see in the pics the engine was filthy!!! Ive changed brands so see how I go.

I did end up cleaning the motor out with Autosol and the parts came up shiny and bright but in my frustration in trying to get the sleeve out, I used a pair of vise grips and ended up pinching the top by 1/2mm and couldnt get the button in :(

-R2- 04-09-2014 01:32 PM

Hey if you are looking for extra legs in your engine our Hong Nor 2047 pipe (10074) has some outstanding power on both ends but more for the top, they are hard coated and last a good amount of time. Yes I'm pluggin our product but my BTT loves the pipe and I have given my pipe to several guys at Revelation and made them pick up performance on several types of engines. Our Jp-pipes have been sellers and still sell but this one even though not name a JP would be like a JP-7 of our line of pipes.

SupermaxxRich 04-09-2014 03:14 PM

I've probably pulled out 20+ sleeves from the engine block over my rc career. NEVER have I had one this tight to the block. I did the zip tie trick to get it up an 1/8 of an inch and then started gently working it back and forth with a flat blade screw driver. It is now about 1/2 way out and is completely stuck. I've tried heating it with a heat gun. Nothing!!! Any tips for getting it out the rest of the way?

rcmoe 04-09-2014 04:03 PM

You can send it in to Lance at RcRenew. He has a tool to remove stuck sleeves. He removed a stuck one for me. Other then that I dont have a clue. I hate when this happens.

SupermaxxRich 04-09-2014 04:47 PM

Got it. Used two screws so I had an elevated point to pry on the lip of the sleeve. Came out easy peesy after doing that.

That's the tightest sleeve I've done in a LONG time!!!

Lille-bror 04-09-2014 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by -R2- (Post 13171530)
Hey if you are looking for extra legs in your engine our Hong Nor 2047 pipe (10074) has some outstanding power on both ends but more for the top, they are hard coated and last a good amount of time. Yes I'm pluggin our product but my BTT loves the pipe and I have given my pipe to several guys at Revelation and made them pick up performance on several types of engines. Our Jp-pipes have been sellers and still sell but this one even though not name a JP would be like a JP-7 of our line of pipes.

Yearh, but the mileage isn't good

Chris Reilly 04-10-2014 06:05 AM

How does a 9886/long square header compare to a 2096/41021 on a P5?

A shorter header might be better with the 9886.

TerribleTy 04-10-2014 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Reilly (Post 13173288)
How does a 9886/long square header compare to a 2096/41021 on a P5?

A shorter header might be better with the 9886.

The 2096/41021 combo is great on the P5. This is my go to setup when going to any track and very rarely stray away from it because it works so well. Good torque from the bottom with good rpm up top, also get good runtime.

The 9886 and the 41019C is another combo made in heaven Lol. This combo is very crisp punchy power that will run your rpms as high as the motor will go. I typically run this combo on road only as the punchyness can get you in trouble with lower traction.

Some may be wondering what the 41019C header is and its simply a conical version of the 41019.

Right now I'm running the Novarossi CLIO P5 with the 2096 Super Strong and 41021 header. I usually run the 6.5 restrictor and a C6TGC plug. I always start here and very rarely change from it.

-R2- 04-10-2014 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 13172875)
Yearh, but the mileage isn't good

My milage is pretty good and I stand on it a lot and I get 9, when I drive more on a pace then I make the next marker. My Jammin engine which sucked allot of fuel would get to 10 at Rev, with a 7mm Venti and 240 temps. My smaller track I go to puts 12minutes for my Nova engine. I was talking to my friend on Tues at Rev and said he drops it on his Speed and makes 10 at Rev without a problem, he's Jonesing for another and we are getting more soon.

Element90001 04-10-2014 11:35 AM

Medium Plug

RCNitroAddict79 04-10-2014 12:30 PM

Might have to buy a 2096 pipe and 41021 header then since people are swearing by it!

I think I'm running a 7mm venturi at the moment, I'll have to check and maybe go to a 6.5mm to see if I get that little extra run time to avoid a second stop in 20 min finals and definitely get a single stop in 15 min finals

Camash 04-11-2014 01:04 AM

So after a good 3 hours trying to tune my 28-7t this week I got it idling and running but I can't full squeeze the throttle ? It drives on quarter throttle ok and wen I start it I can give it 3or 4 good squeezes but then if I keep doing it it's like there's no fuel and it wants to stall so I richen it and then it won't idle or drive at all so then I lean it a bit and straight away you can tell it's too lean it idles very high and all over the place doesn't sound good,all in all I feel as tho I've tuned it to a point where I cannot get it any better and I'm frustrated I felt as tho the engine is a dud :( can any one shed any light on these problems?thank u in advance

houston 04-11-2014 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by Camash (Post 13175715)
So after a good 3 hours trying to tune my 28-7t this week I got it idling and running but I can't full squeeze the throttle ? It drives on quarter throttle ok and wen I start it I can give it 3or 4 good squeezes but then if I keep doing it it's like there's no fuel and it wants to stall so I richen it and then it won't idle or drive at all so then I lean it a bit and straight away you can tell it's too lean it idles very high and all over the place doesn't sound good,all in all I feel as tho I've tuned it to a point where I cannot get it any better and I'm frustrated I felt as tho the engine is a dud :( can any one shed any light on these problems?thank u in advance

Clean out your hsn and retry

Tiny particles get stuck in hsn and wreak havoc with engine tuning

Herrsavage 04-11-2014 01:27 AM

Or try a new plug.

RCNitroAddict79 04-11-2014 02:23 AM

Ordered the 41021 & 2096......top end come at me! :P

TerribleTy 04-11-2014 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Camash (Post 13175715)
So after a good 3 hours trying to tune my 28-7t this week I got it idling and running but I can't full squeeze the throttle ? It drives on quarter throttle ok and wen I start it I can give it 3or 4 good squeezes but then if I keep doing it it's like there's no fuel and it wants to stall so I richen it and then it won't idle or drive at all so then I lean it a bit and straight away you can tell it's too lean it idles very high and all over the place doesn't sound good,all in all I feel as tho I've tuned it to a point where I cannot get it any better and I'm frustrated I felt as tho the engine is a dud :( can any one shed any light on these problems?thank u in advance

Another thing to check is fuel flow. Take the tubing off of the pipe and carb then blow through the tubing from the pipe end. You should get a nice stream of fuel out from the carb line. If you don't its time to look at a new clunk filter. Sounds goofy I know but I've seen this many times.

Had a guy in the shop yesterday that had a nicely idling motor but as soon as we went to drive it lean bog like crazy. I went out to help him tune it up and after going rich over 1 turn on both needles I checked the clunk filter the way mentioned above a it barely dripped. Changed the clunk (coper looking filter in the bottom of the tank) and the engine ran perfect after a lot of leaning out.

There is no such thing as a Novarossi dud :eek: we will get it figured out.

TerribleTy 04-11-2014 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by RCNitroAddict79 (Post 13175769)
Ordered the 41021 & 2096......top end come at me! :P

This is a great combo, get ready for some rpm with a very smooth controllable bootm end. The 9886\41019 will give you the most top but the power is instant. The 2096 also has much better run time from what I've seen. Did you go with the super strong?

rcdoktor2 04-11-2014 08:54 AM

Nova 367 Plus 2
 
Does anyone know if I can use other novarossi p/s for the 367 plus 2? Part# I have is 08061 but hard to find. I marred the sleeve and piston trying to tighten the flywheel nut. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

RCNitroAddict79 04-11-2014 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by TerribleTy (Post 13176002)
This is a great combo, get ready for some rpm with a very smooth controllable bootm end. The 9886\41019 will give you the most top but the power is instant. The 2096 also has much better run time from what I've seen. Did you go with the super strong?

Absolutely mate, no point skimping on something that needs to be strong to do it's job efficiently.

Can't wait for it to arrive (as well as the 3.0 that it will be fitted to)

trax70 guy 04-14-2014 08:40 AM

Pipe qustion
 
Yo guys

What is the Hard coated equivalent To a 9901 and the header to match
can,t stand polished pipe

Want to use a hard coated pipe they last longer and look bettr

Luv the 9901 hate the polished finsh:D

RCNitroAddict79 04-14-2014 08:23 PM

I think most of the Nova manifolds are polished. I run the 41020 with 9901 SS and it's quite nice to drive if you like a bit of bottom end fun lol

kyosho28 04-14-2014 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by trax70 guy (Post 13183286)
Yo guys

What is the Hard coated equivalent To a 9901 and the header to match
can,t stand polished pipe

Want to use a hard coated pipe they last longer and look bettr

Luv the 9901 hate the polished finsh:D

This one is very close... http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...FQqEfgod7n4A6A

sumpan77 04-15-2014 09:56 AM

Hello! Where can i find information about how to tune with the new carburator on the Novarossi 2014 models. I have ordered Maxys Cinco tuned version with cheramic bearings and it comes with the new carburator.

dan_vector 04-15-2014 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by sumpan77 (Post 13186496)
Hello! Where can i find information about how to tune with the new carburator on the Novarossi 2014 models. I have ordered Maxys Cinco tuned version with cheramic bearings and it comes with the new carburator.

Go to the Novarossi.it website, select your engine model and you'll see a link to a carb settings PDF that goes over the config of the carb and the base settings.

However it's fair to say that tuning with that carb is no different than tuning with any other carb. Theory is the same!

RockStar_199 04-15-2014 10:12 AM

If they are like the os carbs you don't touch the middle needle lol

sumpan77 04-15-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by RockStar_199 (Post 13186552)
If they are like the os carbs you don't touch the middle needle lol

I sure hope you are right! Diffucult enought as it is. Not much information about how to use the "new" needle on Novarossi webpage.

ABN Hoosier 04-15-2014 03:34 PM

This is the latest version of the Novarossi NVR37000 fuel gun. The pistol grip has been moved toward the center and the nozzle has been shortened, which they say improved it. I cant find anywhere that sells it stateside and was wondering if anyone can link me to it. Also, any reviews or additional information would also be appreciated. Thanks.


http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...5-15-17-53.png

buchanan88 04-15-2014 05:35 PM

I got mine from clockwork, and he usually sends it in a day or two

ABN Hoosier 04-15-2014 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by buchanan88 (Post 13187754)
I got mine from clockwork, and he usually sends it in a day or two

Is yours the older version? The one on clockworks site looks like the older version.


http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...5-20-12-44.png

royvp 04-15-2014 09:19 PM

Just email John on thier webpage or post it on the clockwork thread and Neal
We'll get back to you pretty fast.

JAFO913 04-16-2014 12:43 PM

which plug
 
I was curious. What is the plug or plugs of choice for the NovaRossi/Mugen Beat Plus 21-BT4 Keep-Off 4-Port Race Engine? Part #: NVR21BT4P

Is this what everyone is running?

Novarossi Turbo #5 Ultra Long Body Glow Plug Off Road 1pc (Hot)
Novarossi Turbo #6 Ultra Long Body Glow Plug Off Road 1pcs (Medium)

Thanks.

scrapsz 04-16-2014 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by JAFO913 (Post 13189937)
I was curious. What is the plug or plugs of choice for the NovaRossi/Mugen Beat Plus 21-BT4 Keep-Off 4-Port Race Engine? Part #: NVR21BT4P

Is this what everyone is running?

Novarossi Turbo #5 Ultra Long Body Glow Plug Off Road 1pc (Hot)
Novarossi Turbo #6 Ultra Long Body Glow Plug Off Road 1pcs (Medium)

Thanks.

Novarossi C6TGC

NitroRacer813 04-16-2014 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by scrapsz (Post 13189952)
Novarossi C6TGC

+1

TopShelf12 04-16-2014 01:15 PM

Plugs
 
I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed in this thread but are there any other plugs that are interchangeable with the C6TGC? I am running the Keep Off 21-4 and P5XLT engines. Thanks

Greg B 04-16-2014 04:45 PM

Engines are too dang tight from the factory. Takes a good bit of time to get them broke in.


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