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climbaatizept 10-30-2009 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by sirKandal (Post 6540491)
It's expensive here in Norway to, 330$ + tax that is 25%. It's the same prize as the OS Vspec :(

Yes it is like here, costs the same as the OS Vspec :(

Poinas2 10-30-2009 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by sstoffer (Post 6541036)
Ron, what do you think about trying the 3014 pipe on the B5?

As long as you can use 2xxx series pipes in sanctioned events I would not touch anything starting with 3. They restrict way too much and even if there is better economy in some cases the lack of power pretty much destroys the benefit. Problems with the 3xxx series was the reason EFRA re-approved the 2xxx series

Werks 10-30-2009 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by sirKandal (Post 6540491)
It's expensive here in Norway to, 330$ + tax that is 25%. It's the same prize as the OS Vspec :(

Unfortunately the importers have to deal with import duties and VAT which brings the price up a bit. Overall though RC products are more expensive in Europe and that has to do with the crazy taxes that your governments charge and that I hate to say is not something that we can do anything about. What I will tell you though is while the V-Spec is a great engine I think that you will find that the B5 has more power overall and will last quite a bit longer to boot! So in the long run it might be the same price but you will end up getting more for your money.

Regards,

Ron

Werks 10-30-2009 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mr. Twister (Post 6537803)
Ron, got to see the B5's run this weekend, very nice engine's, very strong in the bottom and topend, guy's where using them in the buggy, i think they were coming in around 9 min, well worth the $$$


Thanks Brian, glad that you were impressed with the motors that you got to see! We put a lot of time into developing it and I really think that when it comes to bang for your buck there is no better value on the market at this time!

Werks 10-30-2009 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by ieie (Post 6540565)
Hi All,

I've just got my B5 this week and getting ready to break it in. It's going in to a D8 and i'll probably start with the stock carbon clutch and 1.0 springs and then try vp-pro aluminium shoes with different springs.

Before installing the B5 should i take it apart and flush it out and then re-oil it. I was just thinking to take the head off and back plate and flush it out that way.

The other thing should I seal it up straight away? I've done that in the past maybe not straight away but after the first tear down and inspection.

Do you need to replace the con-rod after break in?

I'm not sure which pipe to run with have three to choose from Dyn 086, Go 0801 and Go 2072. I'm thinking the 2072 it's been pretty good on the Go engines i have.

Any way looking forward to running the B5.

ieie, thanks for picking up one of our engines! Regarding taking it apart and flushing it, there is really no need to do this but at the same time this is not something that will hurt if you do it either. Just please make sure that if you do when you remove the back-plate that you have the piston at top dead center or else your going to break off the piston skirt. Same with the sealing of the engine, no real need to do it but again it will not hurt anything to do so. No need to replace the con-rod after break in like with the Go's that you have run in the past. The con-rod will basically last the life of the piston and sleeve. The only time to be concerned about this is if you for instance have a run away and the car ends up on it's lid revving to the moon. Then there is the possibility that the rod might stretch and you might want to replace it as a precaution. Lastly regarding the GO pipes, I've never tried any of them. Please let us know your opinion once you get a chance to run them!

Regards,

Ron

Werks 10-30-2009 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by san. (Post 6540946)
Any chance of picking one of these up?

Sorry, forgot to get back to you about this yesterday. Regarding the pipe extender, this was only made for (and included in) the 2057 pipe set, not the 2013. These are not sold as stand alone's and honestly I'm not sure why you would want to run one on the 2013, that pipe makes PLENTY of bottom end already lol! In this case I'm going to have to say you don't need it, even if you could find one save your money.

Werks 10-30-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by sstoffer (Post 6541036)
Ron, what do you think about trying the 3014 pipe on the B5?

Poinas2 hit the nail on the head with his comments (thanks!). The 3014 will really smooth out the power band on the B5 and also increase the run time. However it's going to do this by being a ton more restrictive. As long as you can get away with using the 2000 series pipes as he mentioned I would probably recommend that you stick with them (unless you are for instance running on a small, super slick track or something). The 2057 or 2056 are in my opinion much better choices which will give you similar run times but with superior performance. Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ron Hopkins
Werks

san. 10-30-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 6541908)
Sorry, forgot to get back to you about this yesterday. Regarding the pipe extender, this was only made for (and included in) the 2057 pipe set, not the 2013. These are not sold as stand alone's and honestly I'm not sure why you would want to run one on the 2013, that pipe makes PLENTY of bottom end already lol! In this case I'm going to have to say you don't need it, even if you could find one save your money.

Understood and valid point. Thx, Ron.

Tony Newland 10-30-2009 12:30 PM

Yo Ron, How you been? The B5 Looks nice.... might have to bolt one in once the snow melts..... that wont be for awhile :(

Perfect price :nod:

houston 10-30-2009 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tony Newland (Post 6542533)
Yo Ron, How you been? The B5 Looks nice.... might have to bolt one in once the snow melts..... that wont be for awhile :(

Perfect price :nod:

you still alive tony ?? :smile:

no more travelling for ya ?

monty

sstoffer 10-30-2009 12:52 PM

Poinas2 and Ron thanks for the info. I have not tried any of the 3xxx series pipes before and did not realize they were that restrictive. I will keep running the 2013 and patiently wait for the Werks 2057. ;)

Tony Newland 10-30-2009 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 6542564)
you still alive tony ?? :smile:

no more travelling for ya ?

monty

Hey Monty waasup ya I travel when my budget allows..... so not lately lol I'm not a rockstar like you guys up there :lol:

ieie 10-31-2009 04:01 AM

Thanks Ron for the reply. I won't seal it straight away or flush it out, it looks pretty clean right now. Thanks for the tip about the back plate and the piston.

Anyone that's running a D8 what thickness shims have you used between the flywheel collet and front bearing? I've just tried with out any quickly and flywheel rubs top of crank case where the car inserts. The shims I've got now are 7x12mm are these okay to use or the OD is too large?

thanks
Jason.

ieie 10-31-2009 05:06 AM

HI Guys,

Found some shims for the flywheel collet. Using a 7x10mm shim from the ofna clutch shim it's 1 mm thick and another 7x12m shim for a total thickness of 1.5mm. Tried only using the 1mm shim but it looks like the flywheel was a little close to the carb.
Can I ask what other people with a D8 have done?

clinttredway 10-31-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by ieie (Post 6544826)
Thanks Ron for the reply. I won't seal it straight away or flush it out, it looks pretty clean right now. Thanks for the tip about the back plate and the piston.

Anyone that's running a D8 what thickness shims have you used between the flywheel collet and front bearing? I've just tried with out any quickly and flywheel rubs top of crank case where the car inserts. The shims I've got now are 7x12mm are these okay to use or the OD is too large?

thanks
Jason.

I just changed flywheels...


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