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Sp Racer 06-05-2007 11:59 PM

rmdhawaii....make sure your clutch isn't slipping when it gets hot !;)

HarKonnenD 06-06-2007 10:28 PM

Anyone tried this motor against the JLR? Assuming the RB matrix is very much like the Sirio would there actually be any differences. I'm craving something with more bottom end and was told Novarossi is the way to go. I've seen the prices go down for Sirio, but again not sure what route to go. The JLR may be price worthy for performance...but will it have the bottom end I'm looking for...assuming I couple it with the yellow clutch shoe, LW shoes, and soon MSR hard spring?

Racing4Evo 06-06-2007 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by HarKonnenD (Post 3376464)
Anyone tried this motor against the JLR? Assuming the RB matrix is very much like the Sirio would there actually be any differences. I'm craving something with more bottom end and was told Novarossi is the way to go. I've seen the prices go down for Sirio, but again not sure what route to go. The JLR may be price worthy for performance...but will it have the bottom end I'm looking for...assuming I couple it with the yellow clutch shoe, LW shoes, and soon MSR hard spring?

The gray shoe works best. The JL 12 really is fast. There's not insane bottom like Novarossi or insane top end like Sirio but I'd put it in the middle with power everywhere and very smooth revving like a Honda engine. LOL!

HarKonnenD 06-08-2007 07:55 PM

Grey shoe working best in what? I have to say using the yellow shoe compared to the grey was a lot better. I'll keep thinking about what motor I'll go with though as I have lots of options.

HarKonnenD 06-08-2007 08:22 PM

Grey shoe working best with what? I have to say using the yellow shoe compared to the grey was a lot better. I'll keep thinking about what motor I'll go with though as I have lots of options.

maskedrider 06-12-2007 01:33 AM

does anyone here had tried the new sirio pipe which the stringer is shorter and thicker ?
any different compare the pervious model ?

thanks

rcabj 06-15-2007 11:11 PM

sirio plug
 
sorry if this has been ask b4:blush: besides the sirio plug , can other plugs be used with sirio...thanks ( its for the STI)

Racing4Evo 06-15-2007 11:17 PM

O.S. plugs can be used.

Racing4Evo 06-15-2007 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by HarKonnenD (Post 3382280)
Grey shoe working best with what? I have to say using the yellow shoe compared to the grey was a lot better. I'll keep thinking about what motor I'll go with though as I have lots of options.

Gray shoe, MSR spring, 1.1mm

rcabj 06-15-2007 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Racing4Evo (Post 3403046)
O.S. plugs can be used.

tqvm:nod:mind i ask u what u think of the STI??

dameetz 06-23-2007 06:03 AM

Bearings problem
 
I m having problem with my Sti 3 ports, its actualy a screamer however i do not like the bearings. From new you can feel that the crankshaft is not tight around the bearings, i have gone 2 set of OEM bearings with mine, has anyone got this problem too? Is there any suggestion on which brand r make should I use rather than OEM?

wallyedmonds 06-23-2007 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by dameetz (Post 3424103)
I m having problem with my Sti 3 ports, its actualy a screamer however i do not like the bearings. From new you can feel that the crankshaft is not tight around the bearings, i have gone 2 set of OEM bearings with mine, has anyone got this problem too? Is there any suggestion on which brand r make should I use rather than OEM?

iv noticed this too with my evo 3

dameetz 06-23-2007 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by wallyedmonds (Post 3424972)
iv noticed this too with my evo 3

So is this normal on Sirio engines? I m trying to find bearings the same size but not OEM. Can anyone direct me? As I said I ve gone through 2 sets already, i replaced it every race because juat after 45mins main the bearing just got too much play and sounded very rough. At the moment I m limiting the usage of my Sti for race finals only.

EVIL-ET 06-24-2007 01:32 AM

this has probably been asked before does anyone have the factory needle settings for .12 evo 3 sti.

thanx

rc_alan 06-24-2007 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by EVIL-ET (Post 3425632)
this has probably been asked before does anyone have the factory needle settings for .12 evo 3 sti.

thanx

5 turns from closed on the hsn and 2 1/2 on the lsn should get you in the ball park... From there, you should be able to fine tune your motor... :cool:

RC_Alan

EVIL-ET 06-24-2007 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by rc_alan (Post 3425743)
5 turns from closed on the hsn and 2 1/2 on the lsn should get you in the ball park... From there, you should be able to fine tune your motor... :cool:

RC_Alan

thanx for that mate

rmdhawaii 06-24-2007 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by rc_alan (Post 3425743)
5 turns from closed on the hsn and 2 1/2 on the lsn should get you in the ball park... From there, you should be able to fine tune your motor... :cool:

RC_Alan

What % nitro and plug are you using with these settings?

Thanks! :)

Slo-MTX4 06-25-2007 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by dameetz (Post 3425379)
So is this normal on Sirio engines? I m trying to find bearings the same size but not OEM. Can anyone direct me? As I said I ve gone through 2 sets already, i replaced it every race because juat after 45mins main the bearing just got too much play and sounded very rough. At the moment I m limiting the usage of my Sti for race finals only.

You will find it very very difficult to find bearings other than OEM. The front bearing is the exact same number as the nova front one but they are different sizes. I complained about my EVO3's along time ago as i was having this exact same problem. And now my STI had done the same.

dameetz 06-25-2007 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Slo-MTX4 (Post 3427881)
You will find it very very difficult to find bearings other than OEM. The front bearing is the exact same number as the nova front one but they are different sizes. I complained about my EVO3's along time ago as i was having this exact same problem. And now my STI had done the same.

Today i bought a new set of bearings, fortunately the OS TZ's rear bearing is the same size as the Sti however the front one was not the same size so had to buy Sirio's. The OS bearing looks very tight compare to the Sirio. Even when new the Sirio front bearing has got little bit of play. Hopefully this combination will solve the problem. If not I will try the ceramic one that Murnan Mods has on their website.

gtsum 06-25-2007 04:48 PM

Bearing Size
 
I have an AB modded Sirio S21 BKEVO3 and really liked up until the point the main bearing went (about 2 gallons). Does anyone know the size of the bearings so I can get some ordered? I have checked Kyosho America and they do not list a size or replacement bearing? Thanks for the help!

gtsum 06-25-2007 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sirio2127 (Post 3074338)
Sirio onroad front bearings always leak oil even after 1 start on a brand new bearing I have not realy noiced any bad efects only a small pool of oil after i after run an engine. If people are worried that its realy bad or just dont like the thought change it to a rubber sealed front bearing somthing like a tko front bearing here is there web site. http://tkocompetitiondev.com/shop/index.php?cPath=38_41. they are very good bearings ceramic bearings rb concepts also make a ceramic rear bearing to fit a sirio 21 engine size is ("25.3mm outside dia 14.2mm inside dia and 6mm wide") ive never tryed them but if some one is keen or has tryed one let us know what they last and paform like. Regards Jeremy.

Sorry for my above post (bearing size for s21BKEVO3) I just saw this post - it appears the size for this is the one you mentioned above? Thanks again!

Corse-R 06-26-2007 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by dameetz (Post 3424103)
I m having problem with my Sti 3 ports, its actualy a screamer however i do not like the bearings. From new you can feel that the crankshaft is not tight around the bearings, i have gone 2 set of OEM bearings with mine, has anyone got this problem too? Is there any suggestion on which brand r make should I use rather than OEM?

Look at this:

http://tkocompetitiondev.com/shop

See their RC Ceramic bearings, got some for my engines and are top-notch, haven't seen anything bad from TKO Bearings. A very nice place to buy things, quick and speedy service, answers very soon at your questions. For sure a great place to buy.

rmdhawaii 06-26-2007 12:38 PM

Does anybody know what the factory settings are for the .12 STI? Yes, I know I can just tune it myself, but I am trying to find this information as a baseline to compare it to what I'm doing.

Thank you :)

dameetz 06-27-2007 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by dameetz (Post 3428105)
Today i bought a new set of bearings, fortunately the OS TZ's rear bearing is the same size as the Sti however the front one was not the same size so had to buy Sirio's. The OS bearing looks very tight compare to the Sirio. Even when new the Sirio front bearing has got little bit of play. Hopefully this combination will solve the problem. If not I will try the ceramic one that Murnan Mods has on their website.

Aparently the TZ baring does not fit the Sti, Sirio has 22mm outer diameter while the TZ's has 21mm, however the inner is the same 12mm and the width is 5mm. So have to get the Sirio OEM bearing again.

dameetz 06-27-2007 08:20 AM

[QUOTE=Corse-R;3430988]Look at this:

http://tkocompetitiondev.com/shop

See their RC Ceramic bearings, got some for my engines and are top-notch, haven't seen anything bad from TKO Bearings. A very nice place to buy things, quick and speedy service, answers very soon at your questions. For sure a great place to buy.[/QUOTE

Thanks Corse R, will try email them, hopefully the have the sizes.

nikoskar 06-28-2007 12:39 AM

Does anyone run the new CL7 On Road?

treetrunk69 06-28-2007 02:03 AM

bearing sizes Sirio S27TX
 
does anyone know the bearing sizes for the Sirio S27TX. I know there part number and that there 7x18 and 14.15x25.45mm but boca bearing needs inner outer and width

JMGarrett 07-05-2007 08:22 PM

sti
 
im getting a .12 evo 3 sti , can anyone give me any specs on this motor , or how it performs?

rmdhawaii 07-05-2007 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by JMGarrett (Post 3459115)
im getting a .12 evo 3 sti , can anyone give me any specs on this motor , or how it performs?

Basic specs can be found here:
http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/sirio/

Dynamite 07-06-2007 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by JMGarrett (Post 3459115)
im getting a .12 evo 3 sti , can anyone give me any specs on this motor , or how it performs?

have a clean pair of undies ready for after your first race :D

use josh cyruls break in method, its trick for this motor :deathstar

Corse-R 07-06-2007 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by JMGarrett (Post 3459115)
im getting a .12 evo 3 sti , can anyone give me any specs on this motor , or how it performs?

+1 on the spare underpants. :D

Get the 2611 pipe and don't rush the break-in, take your time to do it.

On this engine is vital to know how likes to be carbed. He likes (no... needs) to have a nice LSN adjustment (if you carb it like a Nova will be a dog). Their 'good' LSN adjustment under a Nova carb adjustment is 'too lean' (for a Nova).

It holds nice. Forget your temp gun and adjust it for performance, meanwhile you have a trail of smoke, your monkey will be fine.

robot 07-06-2007 04:14 AM

where do i find josh cyruls break in method, has someone a link to it
Thanks Rob

rmdhawaii 07-06-2007 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by Corse-R (Post 3460023)
+1 on the spare underpants. :D

Get the 2611 pipe and don't rush the break-in, take your time to do it.

On this engine is vital to know how likes to be carbed. He likes (no... needs) to have a nice LSN adjustment (if you carb it like a Nova will be a dog). Their 'good' LSN adjustment under a Nova carb adjustment is 'too lean' (for a Nova).

It holds nice. Forget your temp gun and adjust it for performance, meanwhile you have a trail of smoke, your monkey will be fine.

What would you suggest as a good starting point for LSN?

Thanks! :)

Corse-R 07-06-2007 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3460178)
What would you suggest as a good starting point for LSN?

Sorry I use it with 16% nitro, so the LSN and HSN adjustments for someone using 25 or 30% are plain wrong.

rmdhawaii 07-06-2007 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Corse-R (Post 3460297)
Sorry I use it with 16% nitro, so the LSN and HSN adjustments for someone using 25 or 30% are plain wrong.

Understood. Thanks. :)

twiggy 07-06-2007 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by robot (Post 3460076)
where do i find josh cyruls break in method, has someone a link to it
Thanks Rob

try www.cefx.net

savagebeast 07-08-2007 01:25 AM

Someone please call my local hobby shop a liar. I have a .27 and they said I cant get any sirio parts anymore I need a pull start.

ejfin2 07-08-2007 07:40 PM

Can someone help me? I want to know the part# for a engine block/ crankcase for A Sirio .12 Evo III(non STI). Or can you tell me if the following will work? (i found it on trinity's website)
S12-111100 Sirio .12 Engine High End Housing $29.99
S12-160005 Sirio .12 Engine High End Housing $2.07


thanks for your help!
Ed

litespeed-dom 07-08-2007 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by ejfin2 (Post 3466378)
Can someone help me? I want to know the part# for a engine block/ crankcase for A Sirio .12 Evo III(non STI). Or can you tell me if the following will work? (i found it on trinity's website)
S12-111100 Sirio .12 Engine High End Housing $29.99
S12-160005 Sirio .12 Engine High End Housing $2.07


thanks for your help!
Ed

I don't think the STI or non-STI crankcase is different, I've had both motors but I have never really compared if there is a difference.

The part # for the STI crankcase is s12 111103, it retailed at about $90+.

I would highly doubt that a crankcase for an EVO3 is $29.99 or $2.07

Dom

nikoskar 07-09-2007 02:01 AM

Can i convert the STI .12 from 3pt to 5pt by changing the piston?


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