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Mo Denton 03-04-2009 04:57 PM

JP-1 vs. JP-3
 
has anyone compared a JP-1 and a JP-3??
wondering the exact differences...fuel mileage powerband ect..
thanks
MO

ProDriver1978 03-04-2009 05:33 PM

I know that JP pipes dont dyno well.2013,053,and 086 are all you will ever need;)

lowey79 03-04-2009 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by ProDriver1978 (Post 5511114)
I know that JP pipes dont dyno well.2013,053,and 086 are all you will ever need;)

Dyno results don't mean squat compared to real world on track performance, drivability and fuel consumption.... IMO dyno's are for bragging rights only!

Mo Denton 03-04-2009 06:03 PM

thank you....
didnt remember asking for recomendations on what pipe to run...just the differences in the 2 i asked about.

Mo Denton 03-04-2009 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by lowey79 (Post 5511174)
Dyno results don't mean squat compared to real world on track performance, drivability and fuel consumption.... IMO dyno's are for bragging rights only!

this is true my dyno is covered with dirt and has jumps on it!!!!

mblgjr 03-04-2009 06:17 PM

I've run all the Novarossi pipes....

but...

The JP1 is pure bottom end punch and then kinda lays down/goes flat on the top.

The JP3 pulls broader, without sacrificing too much in the bottom, doesn't flatten abruptly on the top and gets mileage for me.

I'm running a Picco Evo3 on a Jammin' X1CR buggy with a 12t bell (yes, 12t) and the JP3 getting 9+mins of runtime during race conditions (A-main pace; top 5).

I like it for the Picco's; haven't run it on a Novarossi/outsourced engine.

tom slick 50 03-04-2009 07:53 PM

the jp1 is good bottom end pipe but sucks on the top end and mid range the jp3 is good mid and top end and ok bottom theay are bolth fuel hogs i get about 7 minutes top on my jp3 i get nine minutes onmy 086 but get insane power top to bottom

tom slick 50 03-04-2009 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by mblgjr (Post 5511322)
I've run all the Novarossi pipes....

but...

The JP1 is pure bottom end punch and then kinda lays down/goes flat on the top.

The JP3 pulls broader, without sacrificing too much in the bottom, doesn't flatten abruptly on the top and gets mileage for me.

I'm running a Picco Evo3 on a Jammin' X1CR buggy with a 12t bell (yes, 12t) and the JP3 getting 9+mins of runtime during race conditions (A-main pace; top 5).

I like it for the Picco's; haven't run it on a Novarossi/outsourced engine.

wow i cant get nine out of mine

butch man 03-04-2009 08:01 PM

Been awhile since I ran my JP1 & dont even remmember who I loaned it to.I last ran it on the original picco evo & hated it & pretty much only run the 3 now(mostly).1 had good upper bottom & mieium mid then the motor would spin but not make power.3 has almost as much or close to the samebottom,killer mid & good ,to a little better top, with good over run but both are low milage pipes.Use the 3 it workes everywhere with almost every motor except the old ninja & I can only assume that means the new GRPs also but could be wrong on that.

tom slick 50 03-04-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by butch man (Post 5511917)
Been awhile since I ran my JP1 & dont even remmember who I loaned it to.I last ran it on the original picco evo & hated it & pretty much only run the 3 now(mostly).1 had good upper bottom & mieium mid then the motor would spin but not make power.3 has almost as much or close to the samebottom,killer bid & good to a little better top with good over run but both are low milage pipes.

i only got about 7 tops out of my jp3 thats pushing it

ProDriver1978 03-04-2009 09:53 PM

Sorry I was just letting you know that there a alot better pipes out there for less coin:rolleyes:With out saying well that JP pipes blow:lol:

bherzog513 03-04-2009 10:34 PM

I ran the JP-1 on my GRP for about 2 gallons. I could easily go ten minutes until lately, it dropped to 8.25 at columbus. I did not change anything, and the motor still runs the same temp as it did when it was new. I went to the JP3, and everything was WAY OFF which shows that their is at least gain or loss to be had from changing the pipe. The only way I can explain the difference between the two pipes is that, the JP-1 is a pipe to use with a extremely hyper, unmanageable engine-indoors (with one exception). The JP-3 doesn't seem to be more hyper or "hit" harder as much as it seems to run cleaner and be more predictable.

The exception for the JP-1 is it seems to run well on junk motors. I have ran a o.s vg in a buggy at JCP(huge outdoor track) and a truggy at planet RC (high grip-good sized indoor) and tried both pipes. The JP-1 ran better and ran longer. Not to say that I was racing against stacked fields but I won both times, when I was merely running a joke of a motor to make laps. The pipe was a big difference especially in a 30 min. main such as the case with the truggy. It seems absolutely wasteful on a good motor.

Hope this helps!~

dotan23 03-04-2009 10:59 PM

if you can try them both with your engine (loan from friend).
every engine react different to pipes. some engines can be better with one, some with the second some engines can be no match to this pipes.
just for example i run radical 621t which is bottom end engine with nice top end but not very high, but when i coupled it with jp1 (bottom end pipe) it gained both more bottom end and high end power (btw crazy engine).

wantboost 09-22-2010 10:34 AM

so how about JP4 and 5?

nothin special 09-22-2010 10:44 AM

Hey Mo, I have both pipes and found the JP1 to be smoother and get better mileage between the two . This testing was done on Jammins and Picco Evos at the tracks I race on . If that any help, I was getting around 8.5 minutes.

jmaxey51 09-22-2010 10:48 AM

what engine do you have or putting it on? that will tell you more.... my JPX gets more power and run time running the JP3 but WS7 gets better run time with JP1. its all about the engine. its all what you want, driving style etc, no one can tell you the right pipe for all engines, the pipe that works on one engine might and probably wont work on a different engine.

these are the engine pipe combos that worked for me:
Alpha engines - alpha 0801 pipe
GRP - 2053 (i think)
RB C6 - RB 2045
JPX 21 - JP3 or RB 2045 (for smoother power)
OD SS 21 - JP3 (for power but only 7 min run time) and 053 for 10-11 min run time


right there kinda shows that you cant get one pipe to fit all engines. the dynamite 053 always seems to get the most run time but some engines it doesnt get the power i need. the JP series are good pipes, the JP4 seems to be the best all around pipe for power and run time tho. the JP1 and JP3 seem to suck the fuel compared to JP4. IMO if you want a JP pipe get the JP4

-R2- 09-22-2010 11:56 AM

Jp-1 bottom power, Jp-2 high speed, Jp-3 a lil of both but uses fuel, Jp-4 smooth responce to bottom,efra rules for sound,top speed but takes a while to get there, and good fuel milage.

mblgjr 09-22-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by tom slick 50 (Post 5511881)
wow i cant get nine out of mine

Mine goes about 9:45 in a truggy; but again; that's geared SHORT and on a loose/slick track (wheelspin) and a lot of stop and go on a short track. I'm sure on a bigger more flowing track it would be a good bit better ;)

off road god 09-23-2010 09:14 AM

Hey Mo, On the B5 Ive played with the JP1,2,3,and 4. and the 2013. In a 2.0 buggy.
2013..good performance,bad mileage.
Jp1..great bottom,no top.
Jp2..pretty good from bottom to top,fair mileage.
Jp3..smooth bottom,good top,good mileage.
Jp4..good bottom,great top.best mileage of all the pipes.

Stubbs 09-23-2010 12:43 PM

Holy thread resurrection Batman! Y'all did notice that Mo asked this question about 18 months ago, right? :D

Of course, I had been wondering the same thing, so I'm glad it got started again. ;)

off road god 09-23-2010 02:41 PM

No....I hadnt noticed it.:weird: :lol::lol::lol:

I like JP pipes. Some do,some dont.
Ive had 1,2 and 3 for some time and for most applications Ive ran the 3.
Just got the 4 a couple of weeks ago to try on the B5 and I really liked it. Not quite as much bottom as the 2013 but plenty enough.


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