Which fuel? Byron’s is closed. Bones fuel is no longer.
 

Not many choices left. 30% is preferred. Racing, not a basher. What’s left in the states that tunes well and is consistent? Thank you

If you are a racer then you know what others are using.

VP 30/9, NitroPro is good fuel as well and it has 9.6% oil or something like that. There’s also Flash Point.I switched to the VP mentioned above after Bones stopped making fuel and been happy with it so far. Watch out for the oil Troll.

Been out a while. Thanks for the non helpful response.

You did not explain that you are out for a while, as if that must be a reason not to look at what is used.
I can tell you that over here Energy is well used by many racers but I doubt it is available at your side. It was no non-helpful response, it is always helpful to watch what others are using, for sure at the local track because that means it it easy to get. But it is clear it is not the answer you want to hear.......

I asked a question, I don’t feel like writing a novel, Just looking for an answer to the question I asked, Thank you

Thanks for the help. I noticed you’re just south of me in Arkansas. What tracks run 1/8th nitro in your area? St. Louis has dirt burners. I may hit a few races a month there. Looking for any other tracks within 3 hrs of Springfield Mo.

We have Eldo RC in El Dorado AR which is the only 1/8 off-road track left in the state. I moved here a couple of years ago from the south east.

VP and Nitrolux seem to be two of the most commonly used fuels.

VP Lutz Blend since Brent stopped selling Bones Brew.. He still has great prices on this, ships free, and fast, and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon like the few smaller guys that are left will be.. Tunes killer, runs killer. Good luck bud! 🍻🤘

I will be facing the same dilemma. Mainly because my local track/hobby shop is closing its doors. Sad time for Dallas, Tx.
I will be forced to buy what local Hobby Towns carry or mail order.

30% Rocket Science

Byron fuel has been gone a while now. Only brand readily available is Morgan Omega fuel.

Here he is, Thats plane fuel.....................................
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P.s he wants racing fuel, Not basher fuel so you have no opinion here Mr Oil stonks.

Morgan makes a racing fuel labeled "Sidewinder" in 30%. I see Amain has it on their website.

https://morganfuel.com/__static/57ff...-1-_in-476.pdf

Omega fuels with a high oil content....

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For anyone need information on ur program always check with the local track fast guy he normally has all the
Good stuff from the local area.
Nitro lux and vp ty tessmen fuel has been the easiest for me to tune

Yeah, I did write that but somehow that is not what he wants to hear.

Okay. Let me lay it out for you. Like I said, I don’t feel like writing a book, but wtf why not?
I am located in Springfield Mo. We don’t have a track. Probably been 15-20 years since a nitro track was in town. Last time I raced nitro was 15 years ago at hobby world in Joplin Mo. Hobby World closed, I moved on to different hobbies. An indoor carpet track off-road opened in Springfield, in November 2024 and I got back into racing again, having a blast the entire time. Whispers are growing louder that a guy is building an outdoor off-road track geared towards 1/8th scale. Looks like a soft opening date in march with the grand opening race in April. As you can see, from the timeline I have laid before you, NO LOCAL INFORMATION IS REVELANT OR ACCURATE. I have 2 local hobby shops that are geared towards bashers and traxxas gear. They ALSO recommend fuel with a high oil content. Cough cough. I personally ran Byron’s with 9% oil and had zero issues with Italian motors. That’s why I came here to ask simple to the point questions, and only asking for simple to the point answers in return. Why is this so difficult for you to comprehend? Simple question, simple answer. That’s it. Your a smart guy, I get it. But your arrogance can wear a person out.Final point. The closest track is 3 hours away, and it’s winter! Kinda hard to get revelant information there as well. Who is going to drive six hours round trip to buy fuel? I’m not, I’ll gather as much revelant info as I can from knowledgeable answers on forums, do more research, and then order a couple cases of fuel and have them shipped to me. The End. Did you enjoy my book?

I just started using Morgan fuel 20% 12 % oil with great results.I did use Byrons and Bones and loved both .I tried VP but not for me .This is just my opinion .Bought my Morgan fuel from a main ,might be able to purchase closer to you .My 2 cents

+1 for VP fuel through Bones. Good prices and great service.

After my bones brew stash was depleted I switched to VP purchased through bones. So far seems to be a quality fuel from a well known company. Plus the metal cans are a nice touch. Reminds of racing motorcycles and popping the top on a can of MR12 and taking a sniff of the goodness!

If you are close to Enterprise, Ala you can get Sidewinder direct from the factory.

Tnr is the new go to fuel

I use Sidewinder 30%

Torco
 

My buddy and I just got back into nitros. We were trying to figure out how to get some fuel.
We decided torco from amazon is our best option $63 for gallon of 30%. Works great. Seems like torco is the big daddy of nitro. I added 2 oz of old school castor for break in. (4 tbl spoons)
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Every forum has that guy (or several) who's like "if you have to ask you're not cool enough for me to give you an answer". 🙄

Maybe the fast guy at your local track is unusually friendly, but in my experience asking the fast guy at any particular local track is met with a dismissive mumble, because the fast guy doesn't want to risk helping anyone.

Yep, and every forum has many guys refusing to do some own research with recourses that are close in hand.

I would suggest Flash Point, NitroLux or VP. Have not tried Sidewinder then again you dont see many racers using it either. I would stay away from TNR, was very inconsistent from Gallon to Gallon.

Sidewinder Off-Road 30% nitro, purchased from my local hobby shop (4 minutes from my house, where my local track is) has been my cheapest option ever since Bones Brew's fuel division went tits up about 3 years ago. And I only tried out and switched to Bones back in like 2020 because Byron's vanished.

I was somewhat worried about Sidewinder because I didn't get the impression that it was "serious" enough, simply because I never saw sponsored race guys running it, but I'm now 3 years into running Sidewinder and can confidently say that it's been great. 10/10, zero complaints.

To be honest, as far as engine behavior / tune / idling / power / etc., I've never been able to perceive any difference in the different fuel brands I've run, and that includes buying a gallon of VP Lutz Blend like a year ago when I was at an out-of-town track, and a gallon of the old Losi Nitrotane (20%, the only non-30% I've bought) back when I picked up a pullstart RTR Losi to get back into the hobby.

Being a die hard Byrons guy from planes to cars it hurt having to find something new. We went to VP and I've tried Tessman, Lutz and the ProCar.
Tessman made great power and decent run time but three gallons and you're looking for bearings
Lutz I could of sworn was just repackaged byrons. Really good life (6 gallons) on internals, with a pretty bronze finish on the internals.
Currently running ProCar, seems to be an inbetween of Lutz and Tessman for my self. Better power then lutz and way better economy then Tessman.

These are my findings, doesn't mean they are right lol

I've been using S&W fuel for over 20 years, they're a small company out of Eastern PA. I use the 20%, never an issue with quality or consistancy. I've put at least 10 gallons through an OFNA Violator before a complete tear down, and at least 6 through a Jato3.3, and that is still going strong.

I didn't mean to ressurect and old thread, but I feel this is relevent.

Fuel threads should never die considering how quickly the offerings dwindle. Glad I saw this bumped because I almost gave Sidewinder a try. Remember hearing the name 20 years ago but never knew much about. Sounds like a friend of mine that blends his own is going to blend me some as soon as another meth supplier is located.

I'll have to look into that S&W fuel. 30/11 is important for me. Do you know what their oil package consists of?

Just curious -- why would you be glad you didn't try Sidewinder? Maybe I'm misreading this lol

I know my excellent experience with Sidewinder ever since Bones Brew fuel closed is just anecdotal, but I've never had the impression that Sidewinder had accumulated a bad reputation* where one who had recently considering buying/trying it might be glad that they ultimately didn't.

'Bout the only non-positive remarks against Sidewinder that I'm aware of is the aforementioned lack of top-dog pro drivers sponsored by them/Morgan Fuels, which doesn't functionally mean anything to the consumer.

* Compared to, say, VP Tessman blend,
which has a bit of an established record for bearing corrosion (or at least a faser-than-normal rate of corrosion) and/or shortened piston/sleeve life.
Not speaking from experience here as I've never used that VP blend, but just going off of collective observations.

Sidewinder fuel is great. I’ve been running sidewinder 30% for years now coming from VP. I Race1/8 Nitro buggy and Truggy. Engines run cooler than they did with VP and produce much better smoke. I would definitely recommend sidewinder ,dozens of people at my local track run it and have had no issues most guys getting 7 to 10 gallons on their engines before any maintenance needed on their engines.

Vp tessman but will need more attention with after run oil. Vp lutz, nitro pro, vp pro car 30%, Flashpoint and nitrolux now. There's lots of commercial fuels out there. I've been using the tessman stuff with no issues.

Morgan makes that fuel and their specialty seems to be airplane fuel and not necessarily car fuel. I was doing some digging around on the internet and didn't really see anyone mention anything about their car blends. I believe I saw something about them using a synthetic blend and that's not something I'm after. I know Byron's had one of the best, if not the best, oil package for off the shelf fuel and it was spoken of in high regard on several forums over the years. S&W appears to use a premium oil package so I'm going to probably reach out to see about their custom blends.