On Road Class Consolidation Thread
02-19-2009, 09:55 PM
#167
yeah we might argue on here. but its really not arguing.. its more like passionate debating 
there are only a few people that get bent out of shape. the rest of the people on this thread are good people and i consider myself lucky to be able to compete with them. everyone is always helpful and will freely tell you how to get as fast as them... that way they have someone new to compete with. I want for someone to be the same speed as me and battle it out with me. Rdog, les, patrick, todd, and myself have all had some pretty good battles in GT3 and 17.5 and WGT... no matter what tho. you cant go wrong with getting a 17.5 power'd rubber tired x-ray. it was the most popular class the last round of NWIC.
there are only a few people that get bent out of shape. the rest of the people on this thread are good people and i consider myself lucky to be able to compete with them. everyone is always helpful and will freely tell you how to get as fast as them... that way they have someone new to compete with. I want for someone to be the same speed as me and battle it out with me. Rdog, les, patrick, todd, and myself have all had some pretty good battles in GT3 and 17.5 and WGT... no matter what tho. you cant go wrong with getting a 17.5 power'd rubber tired x-ray. it was the most popular class the last round of NWIC.
02-19-2009, 11:25 PM
#168
02-19-2009, 11:52 PM
#169
Swede
Sedan drivers are just a bunch of whinie little girls....
Sedan drivers are just a bunch of whinie little girls....
02-20-2009, 01:44 AM
#170
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DO ANY OF YOU want a Beginner 12th class......Take Ron Smith's RC PLUS lead and Make a SPORTSMAN 12th 5min. now 6 minute Class..........been working really well so far, just ask any of the guys that are at the track 6days a week keeping the groove up
Then saturdays roll around and we get our 8 min shot at it...way
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Mark
DO ANY OF YOU want a Beginner 12th class......Take Ron Smith's RC PLUS lead and Make a SPORTSMAN 12th 5min. now 6 minute Class..........been working really well so far, just ask any of the guys that are at the track 6days a week keeping the groove up
Then saturdays roll around and we get our 8 min shot at it...way....
Mark
When I first started, I was running 1/12 stock, which was 27T brushed, with an 8-minute heat. Six minutes with the new stock motor, 17.BL, sounds like a lot of fun, but I don't want to spend $250-300 on a new ESC/motor to run it brushless. I *am* going to rebuild by 12L with a GTX and a 27T brushed motor.
That's the thing that's really bugging me--everything has to be brushless now. Don't get me wrong, I love brushless, but there is so much good equipment still around for brushed motors, and the ROAR rules seem to indicated that stock is 17.5BL or 27T brushed, and super-stock is 13.5BL or 19T brushed.
TTFN,
Grem
02-20-2009, 02:14 AM
#171
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Hi Bruce, would "novice" ease the pain? I've been playing with my cars since winter of 05 and don't recall a stock 12th class being offered where WE race, I may be mistaken but have been told that we run 19t because of consolodation type reasons.......not enough 12s to split stock and mod....
Yes 'sportsman' is something Ron at RC PLUS came up with...it works really well......I have the current record...so.......I'm runnin for the adrenaline of it and they're havin' fun....win-win situation.
people are looking for the biggest result with the least amount of effort.
oh my god, I bought an 09 and didn't win......piece of junk car!
A smile on your face tells many more people who's having the most fun!!!!!!!
now.....how deep should the classes get before they split/support 2 motors?D's, E 's, F's?
Mark
I've been playing with my cars since winter of 05 and don't recall a stock 12th class being offered where WE race, I may be mistaken but have been told that we run 19t because of consolodation type reasons.......not enough 12s to split stock and mod....Yes 'sportsman' is something Ron at RC PLUS came up with...it works really well......I have the current record...so.......I'm runnin for the adrenaline of it and they're havin' fun....win-win situation.
people are looking for the biggest result with the least amount of effort.
oh my god, I bought an 09 and didn't win......piece of junk car!
A smile on your face tells many more people who's having the most fun!!!!!!!
now.....how deep should the classes get before they split/support 2 motors?D's, E 's, F's?
Mark
Last edited by Drillit; 02-20-2009 at 02:21 AM. Reason: totally forgot sportsman 12as a stock class
02-20-2009, 04:01 AM
#172
Hi Bruce, would "novice" ease the pain? I've been playing with my cars since winter of 05 and don't recall a stock 12th class being offered where WE race, I may be mistaken but have been told that we run 19t because of consolodation type reasons.......not enough 12s to split stock and mod....
Yes 'sportsman' is something Ron at RC PLUS came up with...it works really well......I have the current record...so.......I'm runnin for the adrenaline of it and they're havin' fun....win-win situation.
people are looking for the biggest result with the least amount of effort.
oh my god, I bought an 09 and didn't win......piece of junk car!
A smile on your face tells many more people who's having the most fun!!!!!!!
now.....how deep should the classes get before they split/support 2 motors?D's, E 's, F's?
Mark
I've been playing with my cars since winter of 05 and don't recall a stock 12th class being offered where WE race, I may be mistaken but have been told that we run 19t because of consolodation type reasons.......not enough 12s to split stock and mod....Yes 'sportsman' is something Ron at RC PLUS came up with...it works really well......I have the current record...so.......I'm runnin for the adrenaline of it and they're havin' fun....win-win situation.
people are looking for the biggest result with the least amount of effort.
oh my god, I bought an 09 and didn't win......piece of junk car!
A smile on your face tells many more people who's having the most fun!!!!!!!
now.....how deep should the classes get before they split/support 2 motors?D's, E 's, F's?
Mark
When I started R/C racing at Big Dad's, we had stock and 19T 1/12 scale most of the nights. There were quite a few racers with 1/12 scale, and we usually had at least three in each class.
With the regionals having triple A's but single B's, C's, etc, it doesn't really matter about novice/beginner/intermediate/etc., as long as we have resorts early and often
TTFN,
Grem
02-20-2009, 05:23 AM
#173
and he posts this twice even thou he has access to this link, seems off roaders just like to throw stones at glass houses
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...evoving-2.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...evoving-2.html
02-20-2009, 07:00 AM
#174
02-20-2009, 07:25 AM
#175
02-20-2009, 08:04 AM
#176
02-20-2009, 09:12 AM
#177
Is that tear`s I see?
I`m Lhasa Apso fan , Just love and kiss`s and they don`t bark like a mouse...
No voice yet , are you sure?
No way I could of yelled at anyone ...
02-20-2009, 09:17 AM
#178
Mark,
When I started R/C racing at Big Dad's, we had stock and 19T 1/12 scale most of the nights. There were quite a few racers with 1/12 scale, and we usually had at least three in each class.
With the regionals having triple A's but single B's, C's, etc, it doesn't really matter about novice/beginner/intermediate/etc., as long as we have resorts early and often
TTFN,
Grem
When I started R/C racing at Big Dad's, we had stock and 19T 1/12 scale most of the nights. There were quite a few racers with 1/12 scale, and we usually had at least three in each class.
With the regionals having triple A's but single B's, C's, etc, it doesn't really matter about novice/beginner/intermediate/etc., as long as we have resorts early and often
TTFN,
Grem
For 2009 however ROAR changed super stock from 10.5 / 19T to 13.5 only.
02-20-2009, 09:35 AM
#179
Oh yeah, Gary yelled right back at you dude. Unless that was another sweatpants wearing, fluorescent pink mod driver up there...
Nice driving by the way...good for noobs like me to watch and learn from you fast guys.
02-20-2009, 11:51 AM
#180
Still to complicated.......stop trying to make a class for every motor, battery, speedo combination....it's no wonder nothing ever gets decided in retrospect to on road racing. the good news is its got a ton of interest right now and hopefully "THIS" is not discouraging people.
PS...if you "race" rc........should couple hundred dollar investment in something be out of the realm of possibility. Whether it's lipo, brushless, brushed, stick pack, round cell, crystals or dsm. throw down and race and if your not on pace well. It's time buck up and spend some dough. Whether it converting to lipo or moving to a brushless set up.....to much time is being spent trying to catorgorize everyone and make sure everyone is racing the same setup and at similar paces. Hey racin cost money, and to be fast, or go fast , turn crappy in my case ....costs money. Bottom line, if you wanna be fast it's not gonna happen with out time and money invested. Not cut off for mains I would rather bump from the f main all the way to the c main and go home happy and entertained then race a main with a few cars in it. IMO
I assumed this thread was started to simplify TC class discussions and not cover all the spec class's like WGT, F-1, T/A, and mini. If i am incorrect please feel free to correct me. Stock racin to me is 13.5/17.5 and anything lower(10.5-3.5) should be mod.
until then I can't wait to race some body bashin action this spring.
Reminder, Saturday Four Season's will be holding there meeting @ 6pm at dirty daves to get a consesus of the class's we will be offering.. the meeting is open to anyone that wants to be heard and encouraged to attend. The meeting will determine the touring class we will be runnin and the spec class's we will offer. Sounds like a couple of staples, 13.5 tc and F-1 or WGT or both. Mod tc been discussed a little. Tire wear is a concern on the super high bite asphalt with mod but I'd run some if we had a class. Should be fun though, we will also discuss schedule( last year was every other sat.), and possible series ideas, work partys to prepare the track for the season, which mainly consists of cleaning the surface. last year brian shook pressure washed the whole surface by himself. I think he should be exempt from that this year. So if you can make it the meeting will take place after the off road race on saturday. racin starts at 2.00 pm. We are trying to fit in with other existing on road races and not to interfer with there schedules and become part of the nw onroad racing program. All ideas are welcome and up for discussion. So comeone come all we have a room reserved at Dirty daves which is right down the street from garys on the way to the highway!
the good news is its got a ton of interest right now and hopefully "THIS" is not discouraging people. PS...if you "race" rc........should couple hundred dollar investment in something be out of the realm of possibility. Whether it's lipo, brushless, brushed, stick pack, round cell, crystals or dsm. throw down and race and if your not on pace well. It's time buck up and spend some dough. Whether it converting to lipo or moving to a brushless set up.....to much time is being spent trying to catorgorize everyone and make sure everyone is racing the same setup and at similar paces. Hey racin cost money, and to be fast, or go fast , turn crappy in my case ....costs money. Bottom line, if you wanna be fast it's not gonna happen with out time and money invested. Not cut off for mains I would rather bump from the f main all the way to the c main and go home happy and entertained then race a main with a few cars in it. IMO
I assumed this thread was started to simplify TC class discussions and not cover all the spec class's like WGT, F-1, T/A, and mini. If i am incorrect please feel free to correct me. Stock racin to me is 13.5/17.5 and anything lower(10.5-3.5) should be mod.
until then I can't wait to race some body bashin action this spring.
Reminder, Saturday Four Season's will be holding there meeting @ 6pm at dirty daves to get a consesus of the class's we will be offering.. the meeting is open to anyone that wants to be heard and encouraged to attend. The meeting will determine the touring class we will be runnin and the spec class's we will offer. Sounds like a couple of staples, 13.5 tc and F-1 or WGT or both. Mod tc been discussed a little. Tire wear is a concern on the super high bite asphalt with mod but I'd run some if we had a class. Should be fun though, we will also discuss schedule( last year was every other sat.), and possible series ideas, work partys to prepare the track for the season, which mainly consists of cleaning the surface. last year brian shook pressure washed the whole surface by himself. I think he should be exempt from that this year. So if you can make it the meeting will take place after the off road race on saturday. racin starts at 2.00 pm. We are trying to fit in with other existing on road races and not to interfer with there schedules and become part of the nw onroad racing program. All ideas are welcome and up for discussion. So comeone come all we have a room reserved at Dirty daves which is right down the street from garys on the way to the highway!