And I am pushing for it now.

I know that Joe B., Trevor, and myself have 17.5's locked and loaded. I have also talked to several people in the pits that have expressed some interest in the class. This class is also run at the other tracks in the new england area. My trip out to the west coast it was by far the most popular class. We only need a couple of racers to get it going.

I'm down to run 17.5 class if it helps.

not just rc but all forms of racing started because guys wanted to compete with other guys. not just at driving but also at making their car,motocycle,bicycle whatever better then the other guys that too is what racing is about, it all goes hand in hand, thats why i do it anyway. i'm never going to be the fastest guy at the track or the funnest driver to watch i do it to spend time with good people build really cool stuff and go out and do the best i can. but a huge part of the competition for me is making whatever im racing the best it can be

All fair points, and fully agreed. Freddy, I think it is worth noting that the older folks today who started with a Frog or Hornet, started at a time when there was less variety in the marketplace. For the "racing" machines in the early to mid '80's, it was basically 2wd buggy or pan car. Stadium truck hadn't made it to the scene yet, 4wd didn't really come up until the late '80's, short course was unheard of, etc. So it was a much simpler time then, and the marketing was not quite as aggressive, and the kids were...well...smarter (no offense, Bennett...hahahaha).

Tom's point speaks exactly to the evolution of r/c classes over time. If an on-road class were to be created somewhere nearby (r/c madness is too far away for me), it would have to be done with the expectation that racers would eventually go hog wild with modifications. That's part of the fun of it (for those who can afford it), but that doesn't mean the organizers can't still have a spec class with rigid rules. Look at Tamiya's TCS series as an example. It is an excellent series that has lasted something like 15-20 years now. It keeps the competition up and the expensive craziness down.

With that being said.....I'd like to run that RX8 that RCHR has up on the shelf in a spec class...Maybe a stock mini cooper, those front wheel drive minis are fun on a parking lot race course...

Hard, isn't it?? I remember when Brandon and I went from 2wd mod, which we were completely capable of handling, down to 17.5 to get people psyched about the class, and a few started complaining that we shouldn't be in that class cause we were too fast....

It's fun as heck too, anyone thinking about running a 17.5 in your 2wd buggy, go for it, you'll learn a lot and it's an easier transition into a faster class....

All of this can still be done in a spec class. The effects of the set up changes are more pronounced when everyone is going the same speed. Unfortunatly spec classes always end ugly with people cheating or not wanting to go slow anymore. The old school guys used to be just as fast on stock day as they were on mod day.

+1
I support Mark's initial premise to start a 17.5 buggy & SC class for the guys that are not THAT fast & who want to drive that class. Then leave mod buggy & mod SC to the guys who are quick & who can handle it. I for one tend not to drive 2wd & 4wd buggy or mod ST because I recognize that I am usually in the way of Alex, Mark, John B, Fraz, Larry, Tom, Boomer etc. I would rather drive a 17.5 2wd buggy &/or SC with or without boost. I have the SC & buggy ready to go if other guys want to join "Joe B Main" in those classes. Then, maybe some day if I progress to the point of consistantly performing better I would venture into a mod class with the fast guys. Maybe that's why currently I enjoy the vintage events sooo much... the 17.5 speed just is a good match with my abilities.

+2 count me in for 17.5 buggy wendesday! now that outdoor is winding down i look foward to racing with you guys again.
although i do have this nice new rango i won at the vonats so i might just get in the way of those fast guys in 4wd buggy.

see y'all tomorrow.

+3. After the Fall Finale at Gallimods, I will run 17.5 buggy at RCHR, at least until I start winning too much

Hmm should I do this also or should I stick with mod hmm.

Oh NO, not Stick Boy in 17.5 Buggy!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate getting beat by a guy who only uses his thumbs!!!! LOL

I actually think it will be a fun class if we can get it going.

Ill jump in and stop his streak and beat him so he can't say he's the champion of 17.5. Lol we gonna have a good battle Reinaldo.

Should be a hoot.

And I'll whoop you with a Turnigy 17.5 hahahahaha

There you go Joe.....17.5 class.....