Team Magic G4
#1322
Regional Moderator
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Seems like they went through some effort to raise the front of the fuel tank on the G4s(metal washer under normal tank mount) compared to on the Mongoose. Why?
Were some people having fuel flow problems to the back of the tank? Or is this simply to help the tank sit above the screw heads on the upper deck?
Were some people having fuel flow problems to the back of the tank? Or is this simply to help the tank sit above the screw heads on the upper deck?
#1323
Tech Adept
It improves filling of the tank, it allows the front to sit a little higher than the rear.
On question about the steering servo. yes it is in the same place kinda. location wise yes, but it moved rearward about 4 MM, clearance with the bulkhead is no longer an issue. It had to move because the bellcrank required it to do so.
Chassis length is still the same. If you are using the new G4S rear shock tower yes the rear body posts moved forward as did the carbon part of the shock tower. This was to allow you to remove the shock tower assembly from the car without dismanteling it. The evo car required using the loder k factory shock tower required the carbon part to be removed to access the four screws that hold it to the bulkheads. On the G4S this is no longer required.
On question about the steering servo. yes it is in the same place kinda. location wise yes, but it moved rearward about 4 MM, clearance with the bulkhead is no longer an issue. It had to move because the bellcrank required it to do so.
Chassis length is still the same. If you are using the new G4S rear shock tower yes the rear body posts moved forward as did the carbon part of the shock tower. This was to allow you to remove the shock tower assembly from the car without dismanteling it. The evo car required using the loder k factory shock tower required the carbon part to be removed to access the four screws that hold it to the bulkheads. On the G4S this is no longer required.
#1324
Tech Adept
on another note, are you saying that the stock G4S shocks arent drilled out for a breathe hole
#1325
Tech Adept
RC revolution there are plenty of shops that can service you. what is the name of your local shop. Direct them to us and we can assist you.
#1326
Tech Adept
RC
if your breaking parts at 20 mph your in trouble man. TM uses the highest quality dow plastics. Infact a more expensive blend than most all the other makers. The plastic is the same as was used on the EVO mongoose car. We smack stuff hard at 60 and rarely break parts, maybe a front knuckle or a rear arm but thats it, and it takes a heck of a crash to do that. I've had my cars hit full tilt by 1/8th scale cars and broke nothing and my cars were sitting still. Once I was hit by an 1/8th in the back while my car was parked and it only tore off a rear arm. His Kyosho had the whole left front corner missing off it.
if your breaking parts at 20 mph your in trouble man. TM uses the highest quality dow plastics. Infact a more expensive blend than most all the other makers. The plastic is the same as was used on the EVO mongoose car. We smack stuff hard at 60 and rarely break parts, maybe a front knuckle or a rear arm but thats it, and it takes a heck of a crash to do that. I've had my cars hit full tilt by 1/8th scale cars and broke nothing and my cars were sitting still. Once I was hit by an 1/8th in the back while my car was parked and it only tore off a rear arm. His Kyosho had the whole left front corner missing off it.
#1329
Tech Master
iTrader: (11)
G4's back in stock !!
Just confirmed, the G4 is back in stock in both versions but going fast. Contact the guys at www.evolutionhobbies.com
#1331
Regional Moderator
iTrader: (9)
Originally Posted by Motorman2
It improves filling of the tank, it allows the front to sit a little higher than the rear.
Chassis length is still the same. If you are using the new G4S rear shock tower yes the rear body posts moved forward....
I guess I'll just have to chalk the odd body fit up to 'one of those things'. It wasn't a big deal, just wondering if something had changed.
#1332
rcevo,
Dialed setups tend to vary based on track and driver but I would suggest you start by increasing your rear tow & putting some camber in the car.
I would suggest you start with 2deg front and 3deg rear camber along with 2-3deg (per side) rear tow.
For the parking lot track I have been running lately I am starting my front tires @ 60mm with a 62mm rear for quals or a 63mm rear for mains. the 2-3mm split has been working well for with an 19T brake pulley and 27 & 20T side pulleys. If you are using the 19T brake along with the 27 & 19T side pulleys you may want to reduce that split to 1mm until you can get the 20T side pulley or the 18T brake pulley.
I was informed that the team mostly runs a droop setting of 0F 3-4R with a 60 & 63mm tires. I haven't measured up travel with these figures but it looks like from a 5mm ride height it gives about 4-5mm up travel in the rear and about 2mm in the front.
Hopefully this will give you a good place to start and once your at the track use the quals to experiment with the car, there is no substitution for 1st hand experience.
Mark
Dialed setups tend to vary based on track and driver but I would suggest you start by increasing your rear tow & putting some camber in the car.
I would suggest you start with 2deg front and 3deg rear camber along with 2-3deg (per side) rear tow.
For the parking lot track I have been running lately I am starting my front tires @ 60mm with a 62mm rear for quals or a 63mm rear for mains. the 2-3mm split has been working well for with an 19T brake pulley and 27 & 20T side pulleys. If you are using the 19T brake along with the 27 & 19T side pulleys you may want to reduce that split to 1mm until you can get the 20T side pulley or the 18T brake pulley.
I was informed that the team mostly runs a droop setting of 0F 3-4R with a 60 & 63mm tires. I haven't measured up travel with these figures but it looks like from a 5mm ride height it gives about 4-5mm up travel in the rear and about 2mm in the front.
Hopefully this will give you a good place to start and once your at the track use the quals to experiment with the car, there is no substitution for 1st hand experience.
Mark
#1333
Rcrevolution,
I think that you sould go with Mtveten setup. I would start there.
This will make your car easyer to drive.
I think that you sould go with Mtveten setup. I would start there.
This will make your car easyer to drive.
#1334
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
well I dont have setup gauges right now so im stuck with out a paddle, unless u can tell me how much I should do it in mm like top pviotball and lower pviot ball.
Im not racing competitively yet but I would like to know what my car runs like dailed in.
so for now I have to run 0 Camber cause i have no other way of seting it, and for droop isnt 0 drooptoo extreme? thats nothing my track isnt 100% smooth it has some rocks so i think 0 droop will kill me.
thats why i ride 6.5mm cause of the rocks
Im not racing competitively yet but I would like to know what my car runs like dailed in.
so for now I have to run 0 Camber cause i have no other way of seting it, and for droop isnt 0 drooptoo extreme? thats nothing my track isnt 100% smooth it has some rocks so i think 0 droop will kill me.
thats why i ride 6.5mm cause of the rocks
#1335
You can use a simple caber gauge to set the camber. A downstop setting of 0 in the front gives about 2mm of up travel from a 5mm ride height so I would suggest you set the car for 2mm up travel from whayever ride height you choose.
Mark
Mark