Did nitro die?
01-02-2014, 05:53 PM
#32
01-02-2014, 06:34 PM
#33
Tech Regular
GT racing is more popular today than ever before. Example, at last year's Byrons race it was the class with the most entries. We've attend and raced GT all over the Americas and attendance on average is UP not down. The guys that says GT racing is dying are not attending races.
BTW The best way to control costs is with the carb restrictor and by making sure the rear tire stays skinny. A 7mm restricter (easy to tech) will only let a certain amount of air flow in. You can do whatever you want to the engine but you will reach a point that no extra power will be made. Plus the most important item is the narrow tires. Today, if you have too much power, you overheat the rears after a few minutes.
Another thing, the GT class is far cheaper to race than any other nitro class. The average race requires only 1 set of tires, fuel consumption is about the same as .12 Touring and the cars don't break when you hit something. It sounds pretty good already!
BTW The best way to control costs is with the carb restrictor and by making sure the rear tire stays skinny. A 7mm restricter (easy to tech) will only let a certain amount of air flow in. You can do whatever you want to the engine but you will reach a point that no extra power will be made. Plus the most important item is the narrow tires. Today, if you have too much power, you overheat the rears after a few minutes.
Another thing, the GT class is far cheaper to race than any other nitro class. The average race requires only 1 set of tires, fuel consumption is about the same as .12 Touring and the cars don't break when you hit something. It sounds pretty good already!
01-02-2014, 06:54 PM
#34
GT racing is more popular today than ever before. Example, at last year's Byrons race it was the class with the most entries. We've attend and raced GT all over the Americas and attendance on average is UP not down. The guys that says GT racing is dying are not attending races.
BTW The best way to control costs is with the carb restrictor and by making sure the rear tire stays skinny. A 7mm restricter (easy to tech) will only let a certain amount of air flow in. You can do whatever you want to the engine but you will reach a point that no extra power will be made. Plus the most important item is the narrow tires. Today, if you have too much power, you overheat the rears after a few minutes.
Another thing, the GT class is far cheaper to race than any other nitro class. The average race requires only 1 set of tires, fuel consumption is about the same as .12 Touring and the cars don't break when you hit something. It sounds pretty good already!
BTW The best way to control costs is with the carb restrictor and by making sure the rear tire stays skinny. A 7mm restricter (easy to tech) will only let a certain amount of air flow in. You can do whatever you want to the engine but you will reach a point that no extra power will be made. Plus the most important item is the narrow tires. Today, if you have too much power, you overheat the rears after a few minutes.
Another thing, the GT class is far cheaper to race than any other nitro class. The average race requires only 1 set of tires, fuel consumption is about the same as .12 Touring and the cars don't break when you hit something. It sounds pretty good already!
01-02-2014, 07:30 PM
#35
By having the restrictor size limited to 7mm only one can mod the piston/sleeve/crank/block/con rod all they want but without the large amount of the airflow needed into the carb. the engine can't reach full power potential after modifying. By having rule on carb size restriction makes teching much easier and faster too. Another way of keeping the cost down of the GT8 class is by limiting the width of the rear tires. By doing so one can have a monster horsepower engine (in an effort to cheat......) but he/she won't be able to put down all the power to the ground with the limit on the rear tire width........
I understand (in midwest mainly) some folks are trying to boost attendance of 1/8 pan class by purposely redirect others from getting into the GT8 class. I don't think that is the right approach to get more people into the onroad nitro scene. 1/8 pan class is a fun class but GT8 class is growing throughout Northamerica, Southamerica, and France. Asian countries such as Thailand, Philippeans, China, South Korea, etc are also picking up momentum in racer numbers in the GT8 class. The overall racers' feedback are very positive. One of the comments I continue to hear racers nationally and internationally is how cheap the GT8 class is in the long run due to the durability of the vehicles. By having the new ROAR engine rules the cost is going to be even lower (average 5 port engines are less than $300).
Lets work together to grow the onroad nitro classes overall. Like I say before, the 1/8 pan class is a fun class and by staying positive and help EVERY ONROAD class to grow, including the GT8 class while continue being a great ambassador for the 1/8 pan class is the key for the 1/8 pan class's success. Bashing GT8 class to other racers hoping to boost attendance in 1/8 pan class is definitely not the answer.......
I understand (in midwest mainly) some folks are trying to boost attendance of 1/8 pan class by purposely redirect others from getting into the GT8 class. I don't think that is the right approach to get more people into the onroad nitro scene. 1/8 pan class is a fun class but GT8 class is growing throughout Northamerica, Southamerica, and France. Asian countries such as Thailand, Philippeans, China, South Korea, etc are also picking up momentum in racer numbers in the GT8 class. The overall racers' feedback are very positive. One of the comments I continue to hear racers nationally and internationally is how cheap the GT8 class is in the long run due to the durability of the vehicles. By having the new ROAR engine rules the cost is going to be even lower (average 5 port engines are less than $300).
Lets work together to grow the onroad nitro classes overall. Like I say before, the 1/8 pan class is a fun class and by staying positive and help EVERY ONROAD class to grow, including the GT8 class while continue being a great ambassador for the 1/8 pan class is the key for the 1/8 pan class's success. Bashing GT8 class to other racers hoping to boost attendance in 1/8 pan class is definitely not the answer.......
01-02-2014, 08:06 PM
#36
By having the restrictor size limited to 7mm only one can mod the piston/sleeve/crank/block/con rod all they want but without the large amount of the airflow needed into the carb. the engine can't reach full power potential after modifying. By having rule on carb size restriction makes teching much easier and faster too. Another way of keeping the cost down of the GT8 class is by limiting the width of the rear tires. By doing so one can have a monster horsepower engine (in an effort to cheat......) but he/she won't be able to put down all the power to the ground with the limit on the rear tire width........
I understand (in midwest mainly) some folks are trying to boost attendance of 1/8 pan class by purposely redirect others from getting into the GT8 class. I don't think that is the right approach to get more people into the onroad nitro scene. 1/8 pan class is a fun class but GT8 class is growing throughout Northamerica, Southamerica, and France. Asian countries such as Thailand, Philippeans, China, South Korea, etc are also picking up momentum in racer numbers in the GT8 class. The overall racers' feedback are very positive. One of the comments I continue to hear racers nationally and internationally is how cheap the GT8 class is in the long run due to the durability of the vehicles. By having the new ROAR engine rules the cost is going to be even lower (average 5 port engines are less than $300).
Lets work together to grow the onroad nitro classes overall. Like I say before, the 1/8 pan class is a fun class and by staying positive and help EVERY ONROAD class to grow, including the GT8 class while continue being a great ambassador for the 1/8 pan class is the key for the 1/8 pan class's success. Bashing GT8 class to other racers hoping to boost attendance in 1/8 pan class is definitely not the answer.......
I understand (in midwest mainly) some folks are trying to boost attendance of 1/8 pan class by purposely redirect others from getting into the GT8 class. I don't think that is the right approach to get more people into the onroad nitro scene. 1/8 pan class is a fun class but GT8 class is growing throughout Northamerica, Southamerica, and France. Asian countries such as Thailand, Philippeans, China, South Korea, etc are also picking up momentum in racer numbers in the GT8 class. The overall racers' feedback are very positive. One of the comments I continue to hear racers nationally and internationally is how cheap the GT8 class is in the long run due to the durability of the vehicles. By having the new ROAR engine rules the cost is going to be even lower (average 5 port engines are less than $300).
Lets work together to grow the onroad nitro classes overall. Like I say before, the 1/8 pan class is a fun class and by staying positive and help EVERY ONROAD class to grow, including the GT8 class while continue being a great ambassador for the 1/8 pan class is the key for the 1/8 pan class's success. Bashing GT8 class to other racers hoping to boost attendance in 1/8 pan class is definitely not the answer.......
and Andy find somebody to buy my stuff so i can finish my new conversion
01-05-2014, 07:31 AM
#37
Tech Master
I am 64 years old, I am a old gezzer!!
01-12-2014, 06:28 AM
#38
Nitro rules
At our local off road track, during the electric races there are fewer spectators and most are yawning, however, when is time for the 1/8 nitro races, high reving engines firing up, everyone is at the fence watching. We do both, and there is no way any electric in the 1/8 truggy class will beat us on the straight line with our GRP 28.
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