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Im2lazy 11-10-2002 02:43 AM

one q chookgb ... are referring to me when you've been saying ilaybrk?:confused:

No, your negative diff gives you normal differential action when your car is not running, yes? just like your old diff that you took out, yes? the thing is that when you are not accelerating, your car should have normal diff action like with your old diff. When you are accelerating your diff will lock up adn become like a solid axle setup.

chookgb 11-10-2002 02:52 AM

the dynamics of how the neg diff works is not the issue the issue of getting the car to hold a tight exit speed is, i have tested the diff at 2 tracks with the same result the car is fitted with a front one way and has good entry and exit speed but with the neg diff it runs wide on exit which is due to the locking of drive which can not be adjusted unfortunately,to back this up my lap times were .5 of a second quicker at both tracks with the same car set up and identical track conditions with the standard diff.

tekrsq 11-10-2002 03:02 AM

I had the same problem (actually still do sometimes), but here's what I had to do. Set the front droop to 0, run the rear sway bar at 2mm, front sway bar flat. I run 35-40 shore on the rear (depending on track conditions), and 40 front. Basically, this will cause the rear to "whip around" a little when you apply power going through the center of the turn. Almost like driving a 1/8. The benefit (as compared to a solid rear) is that you can enter the corner better, then power slide the rear around, and shoot out of the corner.

chookgb 11-10-2002 03:10 AM

cool at last some productive support,have you found that with these changes the car now gives you quicker lap times than the standard diff

Im2lazy 11-10-2002 03:12 AM

my bad... My other idea was that it had to do with droop... I just got confused by some of your post.


I think that these diffs probably won't fit b/c there are supposed to be new bulkheads in the MTX3. I wish more things would carry over:cry: .

NTC3NUT 11-10-2002 04:01 AM

Stefan, Stefan,
Relax man, why all the hostility? You don't have a NTC3 anymore, so everything will be O.K..

Patelladragger,
The only thing not "out of the box" at the Worlds was the one-way, the ring & pinion gears, the dual chamber pipe, and the sway bars. You can pick everything up at your local hobbyshop other than the gears, which I expect to be out soon. If they did anything else to the car, it was by modding stock parts.

And just for the record (Stefan, are you listening?), I have never made the statement that the NTC3 was "the best". If you read back to the first few pages of this thread you'll see that I am just as excited about this new Mugen as the rest of you. I agreee 100% with anyone that says they are all equally awesome cars.

Im2lazy 11-10-2002 04:39 AM

That wasn't hostility, that was bitterness;) :lol: . Certain cars work for some people, but sometimes it seems that the Nitro TC3 doesn't want to work for many of its drivers. I'll repeat that it has great potential, but there are too many things that have been plauging people to make it a truly viable car for some people right now.

And modded stock parts is not very "out of the box" b/c these guys have access to milling machines (course, many use dremels when their impatient :lol: )

NTC3NUT 11-10-2002 05:18 AM

Dremels where sent by God. You would have to pry my cold, dead hands form it.

calimassive 11-10-2002 05:27 AM

Anyways, NTC3 is a good car I'm sure, everyone and there mum has one, blah, blah... :rolleyes: moving on.

So no impressions of the car yet? A couple of you have had 2 days with the car thus far, hurry up!!! :sweat:

Im2lazy 11-10-2002 06:15 AM

I've seemed to have had a dream that never happened:sweat: :sweat:

stefan 11-10-2002 06:50 AM

Negative Diff,
 
guys, you can adjust the locking action of the negative diff.

First, you can put the clutch shoes in trailing or leading.
Trailing =soft engagement, leading=harder engagement

Then you can also either lighten the shoes by drilling holes in them or put short set screws in the shoes to make them heavier.

I went with leading shoes with one 3mm setscrew, which really makes a huge difference. The diff feels much more like a solid axle much sooner in the corner and I like that.

Nytrochaos 11-10-2002 06:58 AM

well, not that ive been counting, but only 21 days till i get the car!!

it kinda sucks though, cause when i go home from boarding school, in 13 days, ill know that there is an mtx-3 somewhere in my house, and that alone will kill me!!!

secondly, even though ill spend all my time looking for it.......if i find it, theres nothing i can do!! i think it would look pretty bad on my part if on hannukah my present was already built!!

the stress is killinbg me!!!

also,once i get the car, there isnt a track within 100 miles of my boarding school, so itll be a basher until i go home for brakes so i can go to my local track


anyway, moreto the point, did anybody else see my paint scheme? what do you like,what dont you like, what colors would you change?

lastly, on the mugen site, it sais power pack 650 and 730 are the rx batteries to use, the problem is, i cant find them anywhere!! will other batteries work? if so which ones?

thebody im gonna use is the volvo s60.....theres just to many damn 300m's and stratus's!!


thanks

stefan 11-10-2002 08:14 AM

You can use any AAA NiMh cell.

A good place to buy those is: http://www.onlybatterypacks.com

I got the 700 mAh in my MTX2 under the tank and the easely make a 30 min main.

stefan 11-10-2002 08:16 AM

Ooops,
 
wrong link,
for loose cells go :

http://www.onlybatteries.com

Nytrochaos 11-10-2002 08:43 AM

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i decided my colors were a little tame,and thought id go a little more exciting with it


hows this?


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