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Old 01-28-2013, 03:31 AM   #1
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Check this crash at 6:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0GL...ature=youtu.be

As a race director what type of action would have been taken for such a crash, stop and go and to whom?, fair play (wait for the car that spinned out)?

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Check this crash at 6:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0GL...ature=youtu.be

As a race director what type of action would have been taken for such a crash, stop and go and to whom?, fair play (wait for the car that spinned out)?

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In all fairness it does seem like the car with the yellow wing opens up for the car with the red wing to pass, but then cuts back in on the outside, causing the crash. The red-winged car DOES have the inside... At our club we really wouldn't do stop and goes, but if you really had to I would give it to the car with the yellow wing.
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In the just completed Reedy Race there was one occasion almost exactly like that when one world champ took out another.
Even the best drivers in the most well prepared cars cannot keep them in perfect control at all times.
The door was open, incidental contact, no penalty.
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Nice track....
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:49 AM   #5
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Check this crash at 6:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0GL...ature=youtu.be

As a race director what type of action would have been taken for such a crash, stop and go and to whom?, fair play (wait for the car that spinned out)?

Thanks guys
Good vid to get the the "itch' going again. Cant`wait to hit the track again.
About the overtaking, its a clean pass with some contact. The overtaking car was faster and he was clearly taking caution before with some positioning to pass. He was already next to the passed car when they touched. So just keep going.
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About the overtaking, its a clean pass with some contact. The overtaking car was faster and he was clearly taking caution before with some positioning to pass. He was already next to the passed car when they touched. So just keep going.
I agree, espacially if the fastest car was overlaping!
The job of the race director would be to worn the slower car that was about to get overlapped!
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I agree, espacially if the fastest car was overlaping!
The job of the race director would be to worn the slower car that was about to get overlapped!
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+1 that what he should do
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The driver that made the pass had the inside corner, the driver being passed should have given room. BUT, we have to remember that seeing it from this perspective is easy to say should have done this or that, when driving we never know what the other driver is going to. I usually will back off, but sometimes I decide to fight. Its probably better to back off and then try to re-pass, you loose more time when you spin than when you back off. IMO just a racing incident, let it go...
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IMO that was a clean pass with contact it is not like he got punted in the middle of a hairpin or run over on corner entry and just as easy had the opposite end result or both could of spun
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I agree, espacially if the fastest car was overlaping!
The job of the race director would be to worn the slower car that was about to get overlapped!
No overlapping its the 2nd and 3rd driver during a champion ship race.
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I file that one under "stuff happens." I doubt it was intentional and when you have very small cars that go extremely fast, accidents occur. I'd wait till I saw something that looked very deliberate before I took any action.
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in general its when overtaking on a straight line the overtaking car has to leave room for the front car on the race line. Side ways touching is usally not intentionally. When defending the line the front car has the turn and no T-bonening will be regarded as sportive. But if one overshoots the turn then the inside car has the race line and the overshooting car has to give room and not force the way through the inside " overtaking' car but try to gain ground on the wide line. no waving is allowed to try to hold off others. if you t-bone, also if un intentional, wait on the side, out off traffic and get rewarded with respect and silent approval from the real racers.
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The car that took a flip was at fault.. he drove into the other cars lane.. That's racing..
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I think the right thing to do is be a sport and wait then pass cleanly.
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IMO that was a clean pass with contact
That is an OXYMORON and plain wrong. A clean pass is a clean pass, that one was sloppy and the passee got the boot he deserved for turning in on the passer too late.
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In all fairness it does seem like the car with the yellow wing opens up for the car with the red wing to pass, but then cuts back in on the outside, causing the crash. The red-winged car DOES have the inside... At our club we really wouldn't do stop and goes, but if you really had to I would give it to the car with the yellow wing.
this guy pegged it in the first reply
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