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Schrijver99 11-17-2003 12:10 AM


Originally posted by Novarossi
Its looks like Marketing @ Serpent have sent out all these Team Drivers to sell the 710 :nod:

Where were these guys during the 705 + Impluse days?

Building and testing the new 710:D Maybe now they have a little (read a lot) timeoff to drive the 710, before starting a followup:eek: :lol: :lol:

InitialD 11-17-2003 12:19 AM


Originally posted by GoldFinger
During Impulse+705 days, I thought the atmosphere was not as high as now, maybe they kept busy with da 905..:D Am I right guys ? :eek:
I think the main reason is because before this, they did not know of RCTech's existence. I believe only lately somebody on the mytsn forum posted a link to the RCTech forum.

I believe also Schrijver99 told Julius or Rene about this forum personally !:sneaky: :D

Schrijver99 11-17-2003 12:39 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
I believe also Schrijver99 told Julius or Rene about this forum personally !:sneaky: :D
Sssh, told tell (whoops alreaddy did :lol: :lol: )

InitialD 11-17-2003 01:11 AM

Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
 

Originally posted by Rene C.
Why you want to drive that much overdrive? A 4mm smaller tyre means less driving time.
Oophs, missed this one...

Yup, smaller tires mean less run time but not with front tires as I have never seen any racer finish the front tires before finishing the rear.


Originally posted by Rene C.
When you have a traction-roll problem, and you had to use smaller rear tyres like 60 the front tyres must be 56. So the driving time is nearly zero.
Yup but if you were 1:1 overdrive, you need to run 60 mm front and rear anyways to avoid traction roll.

The fact that front tires don't eat so much on the track, 56 mm should last longer than the rear tires.


Originally posted by Rene C.
With the 710 the rear tyre wear is better then with the 705. Every time a car slides, the tyre wear’s. The 710 is more in balance, so the rear don’t slides that much. It’s still more than the front tyres.
Cool. Thanks for the info. I also read this from Rob's article.

The reason why I like to run a 4.5 mm split on the 705 (with 18T/22T/47T) is because because giving you more steering, I find that at the end of the day after a 30 minute run, the front and rear tires still maintains about 3 mm split which does not give you a lot of overdrive that makes car handling different from when you start the car till when you finish the race.

For your info, the new Kyohso V1RR EVO uses a 4 mm split built into their drivetrain.

S710_Nut 11-17-2003 01:14 AM


Originally posted by Rene C.
With fuel ?
I only know (like the rules sad) without fuel.
So our test car is 1675gramms.
But it’s not exactly. With different (smaller or bigger) Tyres, or different hardness, or with different radio, body and even colours the weight can be different.

Rene: I am assuming this is with engine and tune pipe etc?

SN

InitialD 11-17-2003 01:17 AM

Wheelbase Question...
 
Earlier on, there were rumours mentioned that the 710 is able to adjust the wheelbase but I found that this is not mentioned on mytsn.

I assume since the car is equipped with ecentres in the front and rear to adjust belt tension, changing the belt tensions you change the wheelbase too? No?

InitialD 11-17-2003 01:23 AM

Centax III Question...
 
Perhaps this was already answered but what's the difference between Centax II and Centax III parts besides the pinions?

GoldFinger 11-17-2003 01:30 AM

Re: Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
 

Originally posted by InitialD


The reason why I like to run a 4.5 mm split on the 705 (with 18T/22T/47T) is because because giving you more steering, I find that at the end of the day after a 30 minute run, the front and rear tires still maintains about 3 mm split which does not give you a lot of overdrive that makes car handling different from when you start the car till when you finish the race.

Confirm! to this 705 tyre split.
With this split and OD like "D" mentioned, this is the best handling for 705 I've ever run.
My last week 45min race , start with 60(FR)/ 64(RR) ended up at 57/57.5 at front and 60/61 at rear.

InitialD 11-17-2003 01:41 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Overdrive Question...
 

Originally posted by GoldFinger
Confirm! to this 705 tyre split.
With this split and OD like "D" mentioned, this is the best handling for 705 I've ever run.
My last week 45min race , start with 60(FR)/ 64(RR) ended up at 57/57.5 at front and 60/61 at rear.

I think with the 705, we may have incidently hit the jackpot with that setup. However, the 710 MAY or MAY NOT benefit from running a split. What may work on one car does not necessarily work on the other...

Still we can try using the optional 23T pulley from the 705 and see how it works on the 710...:sneaky::D

InitialD 11-17-2003 01:53 AM

I don't know if any of the Holland team drivers or R&D have seen Ralph Burch's 705 for the US Nats. The upper rear arms were a little different and was mounted inner on the rear bearing block and towards the middle centreline. Has that got anything to do with being inspired by the 710 design? What difference would that make on the 705? Longer rear arms, better chamber change etc? I also saw that he shortened the wheelbase in the front tires.

Sorry for all this barrage of questions but I just needed to get it off my head !! :lol:

RobbyDV 11-17-2003 04:11 AM

QUESTION CATEGORY: Assembly RELATED PRODUCT: Serpent 710 4WD
Optionals
what kind of optionals will you offer for the car
Ronald Baar (NL) 14−11−03 at 17:18
quite a few different ones: optional chassis, front ball-differential, alu shockhousings front and rear, ceramic ball-bearings, aluminium pulleys, some titanium parts, race-brake-pads, ventilated disk-brake, support-springs-set, different shock-springs, different 2-speed gears, tank-bracket carbon; some of these items will be available right away, others items may take a few months before release; check the website frequently.


AN OPTIONAL CHASSIS????:weird: . WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN THE ORIGINAL 4MM CHASSIS.
WHICH KIND OF TITANIUM PARTS ARE YOU THINKING OF?:sneaky:

RobK1 11-17-2003 04:34 AM

Hi Guy's,

just to let you know that i'm a member now also .....

Greetzzzzz

Rob:D

rccplayer 11-17-2003 04:45 AM

Some rear part pics

http://www.rcmodel.com.hk/lb5000/usr/32/32_138_87.jpg

http://www.rcmodel.com.hk/lb5000/usr/32/32_138_88.jpg

Schrijver99 11-17-2003 05:05 AM


Originally posted by RobK1
Hi Guy's,

just to let you know that i'm a member now also .....

Greetzzzzz

Rob:D

Now we only need Milko and Stanley and the gang is complete :lol: :lol:

RobK1 11-17-2003 05:11 AM

Pre production 710 roll out
 
Hi guy's

follow this link to read my report on the 710 roll out >>>>>>

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9301


Greetzzzzz

Rob:tire:


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