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Originally posted by RoyU InitialD, why don't you just take a picture of yourself and post it so we can see the "man" behind the D:D |
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Originally posted by Schrijver99 :confused: Sorry, but no need to get angry :confused: Don't try to post as much as D and maybe i can keepup with reading the post's. Still i have placed a small spacer between the ballcup and the wishbone (and still have alot of spacer with the wheel) so the shocks moves a little better :tire: If you want to change things to the car that is fine. But don't create problems when there isn't one :) |
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Originally posted by Julius I am sorry. I'd did not mean to sound angry. I wanted to make a statement that was clear. It is sometimes the problem with forums that someone detects a "problem" and it starts to lead a life of its own. If you want to change things to the car that is fine. But don't create problems when there isn't one :) Ps how to place the a personel transponder!: I cut a square in the fronbumper and placed it under the upper bumperholder, Nice place and well protected. Only need to find a good way to get the wire to my reciever :confused: |
Originally posted by spawn tadaa......;) |
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Originally posted by sparksy Maybe if D didnt post so often replies wouldnt get lost so easily... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Can't help but get too excited about the new snake ! :nod: :D |
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Originally posted by Julius It is sometimes the problem with forums that someone detects a "problem" and it starts to lead a life of its own. If you want to change things to the car that is fine. But don't create problems when there isn't one :) I thought I mentioned that it is more a matter of preference that you make the shocks more straight... Perhaps if I post less, people will remember better and replies wouldn't get lost so easily ! :lol: :lol: :lol: |
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Serpent 710 Pics - Part 13
Originally posted by InitialD .... The car is super light in stock form ! :nod: Unbelievable. |
Re: Re: Re: Serpent 710 Pics - Part 17
Originally posted by InitialD Well, you're too kind ! Thanks.:D So you're saying I should keep it in a rotating glass casing with spot lights around it?:lol: :lol: :lol: Well, keeping it in a rotating glass case would be a good idea if you intent to give it to me to test the car in its best possible form... ;) As for spotlights, not a bad idea if you plan to join those racing around at night in KL! |
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Originally posted by Sow&Steady Have you weighted the car D? How light is it? I think Goldfinger mentioned that it was 1670 grams race ready with personal transponder, body and without fuel. |
Steering link
Ok, let me try to explain the steering link issue. I've used the picture of Rookie Solara to clarify. I hope you don't mind. One thing to remark is that the angle of the link is a lot steeper than in this drawing. So the 90 degree to the link position of the arm is a lot more forward.
http://users.rcn.com/arsa/710-servo.jpg At first look it would seem obvious that the link and arm need to be at 90 degrees. That "looks right". The reality is different. It is not the link that defines the movement. It's the realtionship of the arm and the servo saver. The link could be a wire tied in a knot or shaped like a "Z" it would not make a difference. The servo saver moves in a horizontal plane. So ideally the servo arm should move horizontally as well. Unfortunately sevos have no horizontally moving output but a rotating one. So we need an arm. To get left and right movement the same the arm needs to displace itself in both directions the same amount in relation to the movement of the servo saver. This means the horizontal movement is the most impoertant part. Also you will notice the arm on the servo saver in the neutral position is at a 90 degree angle to the link. That means it you turn left and right the movement (forward and aft, but also left right circular movement) is the same). So, now look at the picture again. If you align the lever at 90 degrees to the link and turn. If you rotate the arm forward (counterclockwise) you will have a little forward and then (because it is a circular motion) a lot of downward motion. If you turn clockwise, the ball will move sideways mostly and a little up and then down. So in this way both sides have different motions. If you look at the picture where the arm is vertical in the neutral position you will get the same movement in both sides (horizontal and down). |
One last thing.
In the picture of D's car I noticed that the ball Is shimmed outwards. This changes the angle of the link to the saver and means you may create unevenness left and right that way, which needs to be corrected ssomewhere else. If I compare it to my car (which uses a Sanwa steering servo) It seems the ball is a lot more to the middel of the car (even when I put my steering arm in the same position). In the end it all comes down to: If you get left and right the same steering with epa settings within 10 point you'll be allright! |
Julius.........the reason I created this diagram is for you (and others) to explain the full detail with at least a little picture so dumb ass like me could understand it more...please, if you find me helpfull and want me to create some quick diagram, please let me know.......(btw, what department should I send the drafting bill to..? Serpent USA or Serpent HQ in Europe..? For real....another 710 as a reward is fine for me....J/K)
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Our Weapons!
Ha!! Here are our (mine and Pineapplet's) machines for next seasons' battles!! :)
They look and feel good....haven't ran them yet due to terribly wet weather last week! http://www.trazz.com/rc/snakes.jpg |
Where can I find one?
My girlfreind just called me and said she was getting a 710 for me for Christmas but has not found one after two days of calling all over. Does anyone know where I can order one? Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by Julius In the end it all comes down to: If you get left and right the same steering with epa settings within 10 point you'll be allright! The reason why the shim of 0.5 mm was introduced was because it seemed like the link could rub on the front belt at certain steering positions. Secondly, when turning right (servo horn pulls backwards towards the tank / clockwise), the linkage ballcup can bind against the servo arm at the furthermost end point of the servo. Shortening the linkage rod and the ballcups enables the servo arm to be moved forward and when the servo arm moves towards the tank to make the right steering, the ballcups will not be at the end position where it will rub against the servo arm. |
Re: Our Weapons!
Originally posted by raygun Ha!! Here are our (mine and Pineapplet's) machines for next seasons' battles!! :) They look and feel good....haven't ran them yet due to terribly wet weather last week! http://www.trazz.com/rc/snakes.jpg |
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Originally posted by InitialD Cool.:nod: Hope you guys remember to put some foam tires on and don't forget a pipe and a side belt for the other car before you guys go for battle ! :D (j/k) |
Merry Christmas 710 Owners!
I hope Santa has bought me what i want for Chrissy :sneaky: |
Re: Where can I find one?
Originally posted by Impulse_racer My girlfreind just called me and said she was getting a 710 for me for Christmas but has not found one after two days of calling all over. Does anyone know where I can order one? Thanks in advance. pretty descent price also @ $359.95 each. shipping sucks because they charged $40 for both of them. ebay has them also. one guy selling the kits for $399.... and the other one is selling them for $368 + $12 shipping! good luck :) |
hey you guys who got your snakes already.... does the kit come with a battery pack??? if not, where did you get yours and what's the best deal out there??
thanks a lot |
SERPENT 710
WINNING CIRCLE HAS SOME 710'S LEFT www.gasrccar.com choco
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Originally posted by Schrijver99 :so the shocks moves a little better :tire: This thing is defenetely the snakes should upgrades not straight or slanted position. And most of broken shock shaft is begin with this tight clearance condition. Julius, if we may suggest pls reduce the thickness of top pivot shock mounting (in flat ball position). So there is enough room for the shocks to move more freely when the wheel / arm impacted real hard. Actually in my 710, lower bumper plate is cut in two!(whoa!!) just found it last night. But that was it... nothing else happen, even the top plate is still holds the droop screw precisely. ...And it doesnt broke the shock shaft. I think this time the snakes did their homework quite well, handling wise...there is still so much thing to discover. |
Re: Where can I find one?
Originally posted by Impulse_racer My girlfreind just called me and said she was getting a 710 for me for Christmas but has not found one after two days of calling all over. Does anyone know where I can order one? Thanks in advance. Cruizin with RC's...Ramsey NJ..201 825 4884 |
Originally posted by evlhdlts hey you guys who got your snakes already.... does the kit come with a battery pack??? if not, where did you get yours and what's the best deal out there?? We get ours here spot welded and shink wrapped with connectors with 800 mAH Sanyo ones at about USD 15 ! :nod: In any case, whatever you do, don't stinge on the receiver pack. Have them made properly and professionally if it's possible. |
These kits are in stock and are $359.99 at Fast 'n' Furious R/C!
http//www.fastnfurious-rc.com |
MERRY CHRISTMAS
To all here at the 710 thread have a joyous Christmas:D
Hope Santa brings you what you wanted, like a 710:nod: :D I wish it would snow here:cry: |
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Originally posted by RoyU To all here at the 710 thread have a joyous Christmas:D Hope Santa brings you what you wanted, like a 710:nod: :D I wish it would snow here:cry: I will be the 1st one AND THAT SCARED ME!!:cry: :cry: :cry: Merry Christmas to all snake guys out there. i hope i will shed out my skin too when i decided to get it. :blush: |
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Originally posted by RoyU Hope Santa brings you what you wanted, like a 710:nod: :D |
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Originally posted by InitialD Did Santa bring you a 710?:sneaky: :D Got the 705 conversion for my Impulse. Too bad no ti chassis for the 705:cry: BTW, isn't Christmas there already. Its like 7:30 pm Christmas eve here. Any way best wishes to you and your family, Merry Christmas:D |
The Brown Santa said he's going to be late ... he said to expect him with my present Tuesday or Wednesday. :)
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Originally posted by InitialD The kit does not come with one. You need to get them made with 5 x AAA batteries. We get ours here spot welded and shink wrapped with connectors with 800 mAH Sanyo ones at about USD 15 ! :nod: In any case, whatever you do, don't stinge on the receiver pack. Have them made properly and professionally if it's possible. thanks in advance... :) |
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:D "Santa bought me my 710!"
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Originally posted by InitialD True. But I think not just that needs to be achieved. The steering left and right must not be binding too.:nod: The reason why the shim of 0.5 mm was introduced was because it seemed like the link could rub on the front belt at certain steering positions. Secondly, when turning right (servo horn pulls backwards towards the tank / clockwise), the linkage ballcup can bind against the servo arm at the furthermost end point of the servo. Shortening the linkage rod and the ballcups enables the servo arm to be moved forward and when the servo arm moves towards the tank to make the right steering, the ballcups will not be at the end position where it will rub against the servo arm. |
Guys,
I have just been reading the setup book that comes with the kit, it gives alot of great information, Just confused on the rear roll centre adjustments, the book gives adjustment for Longer Upper Arm and Shorter Upper Arm? |
Hudy Tyre Truer
Santa bought me a lovely Hudy "Power" Tyre Truer.
Thankyou Santa :) :) :) :) I'm going Foam racing, Yehaaaaaaaaa! |
Originally posted by Julius But doesn't the shim actually bring the link closer to the belt? I did cut a little of the inside of the nylon ballcup to clear the arm at full right steering. I did try a 1mm washer under the ball on the servo arm but changed my mind and just shaped the edge of the servo arm were it JUST touches the link. (not that big a deal):D |
Originally posted by evlhdlts where did you get exactly the $15 packs?:weird: They don't have it listed there but you can ask them to custom solder the config you want. You can send them an email but I doubt at the end of the day it would be cheaper with shipping and all... The actually have their office local here. So it is easy and cheap for us.:nod: |
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Originally posted by RoyU BTW, isn't Christmas there already. Its like 7:30 pm Christmas eve here. Any way best wishes to you and your family, Merry Christmas:D |
Originally posted by S710_Nut :D "Santa bought me my 710!" |
Re: Hudy Tyre Truer
Originally posted by Diesel Racer Santa bought me a lovely Hudy "Power" Tyre Truer. |
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