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clmbia45 03-05-2004 06:34 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
Ideally, you would want to use dry graphite grease on all moving parts except the thrust bearings. For thrust bearing and the diff balls, I use the Mugen Super Grease. For the middle shaft and the 2 speed layshaft, I dab a drop of silicone shock oil where the bearing rubs on the shafts.



I've tried using silicone shock oil with success. Now I'm trying out the Serpent Bearing Lube 1682 as per the mytsn tip.

Oil is oily- I've never found one that repelled dust yet.
The Pro bicycle riders have a great interest in drive train friction and dust: many use a product such as Finish Line Teflon-Plus to lubricate the chain. Dries to non-oily, dry surface and is said by the local Pro to last 100 miles in competition. I have used it on my dogbones, out drives, etc. for 2 years now and note substantially less wear. It sprays on through a small plastic tube and you can easily apply it between heats. I also put it on all suspension point. No plastic damage, though you can see the teflon residue.:nod:

clmbia45 03-05-2004 06:42 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
It's pretty decent as it's made of aluminum. Some say it is as good as the Hudy if not better. But for the toe in / out, you still need one of Hudy's "rulers".:D
"C22305
This is the ultimate setup tool for serious racers. Adjust front toe, front castor, front camber, rear toe-in, rear kick-up and rear camber all at the same time, also adjust steering angle accurately, works on all standard size 1/10 touring sedan. Anodized blue alloy with clear toe indicator bar,"....

Mine came with "the clear toe indicator bar", Hudy like ruler. The set is excellent, as is their Laser tweak station.:nod:

cyba888 03-05-2004 07:10 AM

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Pyramid,

I did the shocked mod you mentioned in your tips and tricks section. It seems like it has much more play and after the thick washer on the bottom its much straighter. Just as strong and sturdy like you mentioned. Thanks for the tip ;) lets just hope it holds up well :nod: :p

Profoxcg 03-05-2004 07:11 AM

Bearing Oil as a replacement for Graphite grease
 
So according to this the bearin oil #1682 can be used all around the car where you would use the graphite grease?

(anything metal to metal?) and ( the suspension ball pivots)

Profoxcg 03-05-2004 07:51 AM

I read the article on servicing the bearings. They mention cleaning with motor spray? what is this spray where can I find it?

thanks

markp27 03-05-2004 07:53 AM


Originally posted by Profoxcg
I read the article on servicing the bearings. They mention cleaning with motor spray? what is this spray where can I find it?

thanks

This is a degreasing spray which you should be able to find at any car parts shop.

Cheers, Mark.

Solara 03-05-2004 08:56 AM


Originally posted by Cyba888
What do you guys think of the Integy setup tool? http://integy.automated-shops.com/c...-42104473475.4e
As much as I like that...(because I have one) that setup station are NO LONGER working with the 710 because the rear uprights (the top pivot ball area that you will adjust your rear camber)of the 710 sit up HIGH and the Integy setup block DOES NOT have the opening for you to adjust the upper pivot balls thru the setup block...so you can only use the L-shape stock allen wrentch to setup your camber or you setup the camber with the setup block.

And somehow....HUDY one has a circle opening for you to adjust the 710 even thought that HUDY setup station is out almost 5 years already....

I bet Serpent designed the 710 rear uprights for some reason that only HUDY setup will work.

kreidel 03-05-2004 09:01 AM


Originally posted by Rookie Solara


And somehow....HUDY one has a circle opening for you to adjust the 710 even thought that HUDY setup station is out almost 5 years already....

I bet Serpent designed the 710 rear uprights for some reason that only HUDY setup will work.

Right...thats logical, build a car around a setup station!

Solara 03-05-2004 09:02 AM


Originally posted by cyba888
Are you sure you need the Hudy ruler? It says it can adjust toe in /out :confused:
Integy one DOES come with that clear TOE IN/OUT ruler as well....but I think if you want to buy a new one, buy the HUDY because the rear block of the Integy will not allow you to adjust your rear camber on 710.

crashed_1 03-05-2004 09:04 AM


Originally posted by markp27
This is why we didn't spot him in that picture the other day - we should have looked for a woman who is dressed up as a man :lol: :lol:
But he has revealed himself to the forum...just give a wild guess...:D

*clue #2*

the person close to a serpent.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

cyba888 03-05-2004 09:05 AM


Originally posted by Rookie Solara
As much as I like that...(because I have one) that setup station are NO LONGER working with the 710 because the rear uprights (the top pivot ball area that you will adjust your rear camber)of the 710 sit up HIGH and the Integy setup block DOES NOT have the opening for you to adjust the upper pivot balls thru the setup block...so you can only use the L-shape stock allen wrentch to setup your camber or you setup the camber with the setup block.

And somehow....HUDY one has a circle opening for you to adjust the 710 even thought that HUDY setup station is out almost 5 years already....

I bet Serpent designed the 710 rear uprights for some reason that only HUDY setup will work.

Man that sucks :(

Arun 03-05-2004 09:07 AM


Originally posted by Rookie Solara
As much as I like that...(because I have one) that setup station are NO LONGER working with the 710 because the rear uprights (the top pivot ball area that you will adjust your rear camber)of the 710 sit up HIGH and the Integy setup block DOES NOT have the opening for you to adjust the upper pivot balls thru the setup block...so you can only use the L-shape stock allen wrentch to setup your camber or you setup the camber with the setup block.

And somehow....HUDY one has a circle opening for you to adjust the 710 even thought that HUDY setup station is out almost 5 years already....

I bet Serpent designed the 710 rear uprights for some reason that only HUDY setup will work.

I believe that the extra hole on the HUDY station was originally put there due to the yokomo gt4 rear upright design, which is virtually the same as the 710's.

Solara 03-05-2004 09:07 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
Might want to check with Rookie Solara. I remember seeing pictures of his cars with the Integy setup and I thought I remember him mentioning that you still need the Hudy ruler for the toe in / out. I may be wrong...
Master D...........GOOD MEMORY....wow, what is that...? P4 with 4.0 Ghz in your head? ....just 1 more time, it is a GOOD setup station, but if you are planning to buy a new one, HUDY will fit 710 better cause Integy one are UNIVERSAL, just not for S710.

http://users.rcn.com/arsa/ntc3/setup/P0003527.JPG

cyba888 03-05-2004 09:10 AM


Originally posted by Rookie Solara
Master D...........GOOD MEMORY....wow, what is that...? P4 with 4.0 Ghz in your head? ....just 1 more time, it is a GOOD setup station, but if you are planning to buy a new one, HUDY will fit 710 better cause Integy one are UNIVERSAL, just not for S710.

http://users.rcn.com/arsa/ntc3/setup/P0003527.JPG

Hey Solara,
Do you have a side view pic of that setup board? That thing looks too sweet. :) The Hudy ones seems to crack at the some areas near the bolts. Maybe I can drill a hole to accomodate the camber adjustment on the 710? :sneaky:

Solara 03-05-2004 09:11 AM


Originally posted by Proficar403
I believe that the extra hole on the HUDY station was originally put there due to the yokomo gt4 rear upright design, which is virtually the same as the 710's.
Yes, the first time I spot the 710 rear uprigth, the image is "YOKOMO GT-4" immediately.....
If Hudy did that extra opening for the YOKOMO customer........then they deserve to make more money cause they can use that against the aftermarket work station on S710....

As for me....I borrowed the HUDY one from my friend and if I don't have that HUDY one on my hand, I will still use the Integy one, but just using those stock L-shape black allen wrench instead...just not as comfortable as the regular hex wrench and no that professsional, no big deal.


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