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DS Motorsport 09-01-2005 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady
Do a video, do a video and send it to me! We need to "prepare" for the Euros next year. :sneaky:

haha :lol: You want a video of julius doing some laps on Heemstede?
Well if the price is right i can sort that out for you :p

But there is a slight change that i'm going to enter too for that race soo, dont wanna make my chances of winning even less.

but if you want a video of a fast driver doing some laps i can do that with my digital camera.

_cyclops_ 09-01-2005 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady
Open source? I like that ... which is why I have it for free download. Only the cost of bandwidth and server space limits the size and quality. Still, open source DVD is fine by me. :)

The main problem is that a full dvd or full cd of high quality video isn't hard to make, just use a higher quality in codec i gues...

Could we set up some bittorrent thing? It's 'open source', as long as we keep seeding ppl will be able to download use amounts of data.. burn it yourself then... :) (no 3hobby.net sticker tho...)

going4#1 09-01-2005 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Julius
More often than not will modifications lead to uneven wear on the shoe, difficult to set clutches excessive wear etc. My advice? Use the stock parts with the yellow shoe and you 'll be close. Learn to setup that combo first and then experiment.

Even though I use weighted flyweights and the harder spring (I like that aggressive punch), I have not experienced unbalanced clutch shoe wear. What I have experienced is a warping of the Centax-3 support washer (part 802504). It's not a frequent event but it does happen every once in a while. In fact that part seems to last as long as the spacer thrustbearing (909516) does. That gets a nice groove cut into it after a while and the clutch bell cannot move forward to it's full extent.

I wonder if what Julius mentioned is causing the problem? Do others using an un-moded Centax III have these problems? :|

Qlone 09-01-2005 11:22 PM

The 909516 parts is wearing out here too. It's not so bad as to become unusual, but when I have to add or remove shims at the front of the clutch, it's always a bit of a pain to get the thrust bearing off...

802504 is doing fine though. Still have the original part that came with the kit.

InitialD 09-01-2005 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
Julius was driving also, but he is a bit faster :lol:

Hey, what's he doing on the track? Has he got no plane to fly? :D


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
I only ditched the red shock membrames. They were all leaking.
They are a bit to wide so when you screw on the cap, the membrames get cut by the treading on the cap.

Yes, the edges are a little bit bigger. What I did for mine is I used by lexan body curved scissors (any scissors will do I think) and trim the membrane edges (careful, not too much) at the edges around so that they do not get cut from the threading of the cap. My apologies for not rembering to include that bit. :o :) When the cap is on top, the rubber membrane just fits nicely.

InitialD 09-01-2005 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by Julius
Learn to setup that combo first and then experiment.

Good advise Julius. Experimenting with clutch setups is not for the faint hearted. Especially for the other older people. :D

InitialD 09-01-2005 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by jag
It wore down to the point where the flywheel pins were flush with the clutch shoe. It looks like if I use it more the pins will rub on the clutch bell.

Jag, my flywheel pins are also showing and they do not rub the clutchbell if the clutch bell is spaced out correctly. If yours is rubbing against the pin, then you need to shim the clutch bell correctty as per the manual and as per Glenn Cauley's article regardless if your clutch has worn down.

InitialD 09-01-2005 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by going4#1
What I have experienced is a warping of the Centax-3 support washer (part 802504). It's not a frequent event but it does happen every once in a while. In fact that part seems to last as long as the spacer thrustbearing (909516) does. That gets a nice groove cut into it after a while and the clutch bell cannot move forward to it's full extent.

Yes, like Qlone, I found the 909516 thrustbearing spacer getting grooved also and it impedes the movement of the cluth bell axially. Found that out in one of my other clutch assembly on the other engine about 2 weeks ago. I changed it and the clutch works smoothly now. It looks like the spacer gets cut and grooved by the thin shims you use for the clutch spacing. I guess that part needs to be checked every now and then.

No problems with the 802504 warping...

InitialD 09-02-2005 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Benzoil
Originally I was running a solid axle and standard rc, and found the car heavily oversteering on power (with a Rody) but with very little mid corner steering .

Try more rear camber. -2 sounds a little bit little. Basically, try and set the camber according to your track layout. Run a few rounds and observe the camber wear. Adjust negative camber accordingly to get the rear tires to wear at least in a flat profile or a little coning (smaller tire diameter on the inside and bigger on the outside). Front tires, the wear profile can be flat.

I would also try a harder rear sway bar setting. Gives the car better mid corner steering and mid corner speed. If you have, try the 2.5mm optional rear sway bar. It usually does wonders. Try and mount it using the inside mount on the lower arm (outside mount on the lower arm is stock setting) which makes the sway bar a little softer. If you still find it a little too hard, then try the stock 2.0mm bar that comes with the kit.

BTW, you mention you use 35wt shock oil. How many holes? 1.0mm or 1.2mm holes in the piston?

Sow&Steady 09-02-2005 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
haha :lol: You want a video of julius doing some laps on Heemstede?
Well if the price is right i can sort that out for you :p

But there is a slight change that i'm going to enter too for that race soo, dont wanna make my chances of winning even less.

but if you want a video of a fast driver doing some laps i can do that with my digital camera.

Yes, I know what you mean re: entered for race so need to focus. I find the same problems when I'm trying to race and at the same time think of which video footage to shoot for 3Hobby.

Well, if the video footage with your digital camera is reasonable then yes, why not. Thanks.

Sow&Steady 09-02-2005 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by _cyclops_
The main problem is that a full dvd or full cd of high quality video isn't hard to make, just use a higher quality in codec i gues...

Could we set up some bittorrent thing? It's 'open source', as long as we keep seeding ppl will be able to download use amounts of data.. burn it yourself then... :) (no 3hobby.net sticker tho...)

BitTorrent is "sensitive" at the moment ... a law just passed and they're specifically looking at peer-to-peer networks.

You're right tho, no matter what, we can't download stickers! :rolleyes: :lol:

_cyclops_ 09-02-2005 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady
BitTorrent is "sensitive" at the moment ... a law just passed and they're specifically looking at peer-to-peer networks.

You're right tho, no matter what, we can't download stickers! :rolleyes: :lol:


Heh, it's your movie, if you deside it may be destributed via bittorent, nobody can tell you anything i gues..... and, well can't torrent a sticker :P

M7H 09-02-2005 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
Sunday i'm going to the track. Then there are always some good drivers which can help with the engine tuning.

Me too....
not with a 1/10 though.......
We have a 1/8 club meeting......
See you Sunday......

Martin

_cyclops_ 09-02-2005 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by M7H
Me too....
not with a 1/10 though.......
We have a 1/8 club meeting......
See you Sunday......

Martin

i'll be at the AMCA track :)
Anyone else going? ;)

Qlone 09-02-2005 05:38 AM

I was at the AMCA track last sunday. :tire:
Am planning to go to the Mach track tomorrow and maybe sunday too...

M7H, club meeting? Going to be crowded there then?


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