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markp27 04-03-2005 10:59 PM


Originally posted by InitialD
Perhaps that crash was bad enough to damage your crystal. So it may have appeared that your crystal died before the crash...

Just test it out. While the Tx and Rx is switched on and connected to the servos, unplug the crystal... I'm pretty sure it'll go into fail safe mode. :nod:

:nod: Yep, I tried this one before :nod: But even when I put the power back on to the car, the fail-safe didn't cut in :confused:

Brett.w 04-04-2005 02:29 AM

Talking of spektrum has anybody seem if the reciever fit in the 710?

markp27 04-04-2005 02:30 AM

Sow&Steady is using one in his 710.

lagnaf 04-04-2005 05:20 AM


Originally posted by markp27
Nice Alfa, Julius.

I'm just back from Kirchberg track - long, almost 600km drive :cry: Lovely track - easy to start to drive on, but difficult to go fast.

In qualifying, I went straight into the finals in 3rd place - despite the other guys using Lolas (only 3 of us were real men and used TC shells http://3hobby.net/images/blocks/shou...wistedevil.gif

Final was a disaster, though. In my last qual session, I could feel the grip going away on my 37s - thinking they were starting to overheat, I thought I would run 40s in the final.

Come the final, the car was far too loose - understeer and oversteer - it really wobbled left and right under power and braking. I had Rene running a couple of times to right my car or rescuse it from the grass and eventaully I had a problem with the power connector at the half ways point :( I had badly positioned the power cable connector and a tiny splash of fuel caused it to short and that was the end of my final.

Rene agreed that I'd driven pretty awful in the final - I think it was 50% driver and 50% tyres. I just couldn't keep consistent with the low grip of the 40 shore tyres. I'd put two ok laps together and then three where I was missing the apexs, etc.

Still it was great fun at the Kirchberg track - the Mega motor was certainly Mega!!! and Rene's pit and tuning work was first rate :nod: Big thanks to him for helping me out.

I had the same problem with tyers.
I changed my tyers for finals from F37/R40 to F40/R42. I got the same result as Mark.
We ware both dancing around the track. :nod:
That was not all. When i finished the finals I allso noticed that on the lower back arm of my car the pivot ball was allmost pulled out. So my TOE-IN was around 6° on one back wheel. :weird:
The engine not performed so well for me. It was going good only beyond 130°C. :confused:
Does anybody know the factory settings for 201001 MEGA ZX-12 RACE engine ?
The results are here

It was long ride for you Mark. Did you came home before midnight?

Best regards

Ognjen

markp27 04-04-2005 05:41 AM


Originally posted by lagnaf
I had the same problem with tyers.
I changed my tyers for finals from F37/R40 to F40/R42. I got the same result as Mark.
We ware both dancing around the track. :nod:
That was not all. When i finished the finals I allso noticed that on the lower back arm of my car the pivot ball was allmost pulled out. So my TOE-IN was around 6° on one back wheel. :weird:
The engine not performed so well for me. It was going good only beyond 130°C. :confused:
Does anybody know the factory settings for 201001 MEGA ZX-12 RACE engine ?
The results are here

It was long ride for you Mark. Did you came home before midnight?

Best regards

Ognjen

Hi Ognjen,

I think I just say made it back before midnight - it was a really long journey, but well worth while.

Yeah, 40s were a bad choice yesterday - I think when in my last qualifying session the grip went away a bit, the track had become a little slippy and it wasn't that my tyres had overheated. Therefore the worst thing I could have done was to switch to 40s.

I'm not sure of the factory settings for the ZX12 - I'll see if I can find out some info, though.

Where you happy with your clutch setting at the end?

Cheers, Mark.

lagnaf 04-04-2005 06:27 AM


Where you happy with your clutch setting at the end?
The clutch was OK! :nod:
I adjust the spring preetension nut to the point where it begin to slip. Then i just unscrew a litlle bit, so the car realy explode when clutch engage. The clutch is set with hard 1.8 spring, black shue, 0.5 cluth gap, M3x4mm in fly weights and allmost zero endplay.
I must say that engine runs whell. But the problem is temperature on which is runing. When I want to cool down the engine with openning the uper nidlle it yust bogs (fourstrokes) on the straight. But its OK in lower RPM:confused:

Best regards

Ognjen

jag 04-04-2005 07:02 AM


Originally posted by JustRace
Racinghobbies..Nope!!!....I'm trying to get hooked up myself. Hoping Julius will send me a body :) I told you to run on VRC. No bodies to paint, no motor to breakin, no dirt under the nails.

Maybe Jag will paint you a body :)

Don't bet on it... I need to do one for myself. I can't go to the state race with the "same old body". Besides I can't compare with the stuff you guys use.

jag 04-04-2005 07:13 AM


Originally posted by Brett.w
Talking of spektrum has anybody seem if the reciever fit in the 710?
No problems. It's about the same size as a Futaba PCM receiver.

rcpanama 04-04-2005 09:06 AM

Hi I have a question for you the experts of this forum.

We have three drivers that are using Serpent 710 for the first time they where two Mugen MTX3 one TC3, they have decided not to use the serpent any more the reason is the following:

• One is using a brand new JP FX 5 full option; the other is using a new Sirio (world Champion version) and the other a Nova Max S5.
• All of them went they used this engines with the Serpent 710 their consumption goes high lest than 5 minutes in a very small track (they change the Leigh out with the same problem).
• The part that makes this difficult to solve is that all of them when they install the same Engines in a Mugen or a TC3 their consumption goes above 6 minutes (same engines).

They all had change to Yellow choose and 1.8 hard spring, they say that they are using .5 to .6 gap (can’t verify that) but the end play it is very small almost no play but it turns good.
All of them had the Front Ball Differential with the (802145) Serpent Servo Lever Front Long + Diffring for 710 Install and the new tank with the gold filter.
All the rest are the aluminum options, all had red spring front and rear.

The question is, what could be the cause (setting) that can make the engine consume more because it is really estrange that this same engines in other cars have excellent speed and very good consumption.

MrChan 04-04-2005 09:18 AM


Originally posted by rcpanama
Hi I have a question for you the experts of this forum.

We have three drivers that are using Serpent 710 for the first time they where two Mugen MTX3 one TC3, they have decided not to use the serpent any more the reason is the following:

• One is using a brand new JP FX 5 full option; the other is using a new Sirio (world Champion version) and the other a Nova Max S5.
• All of them went they used this engines with the Serpent 710 their consumption goes high lest than 5 minutes in a very small track (they change the Leigh out with the same problem).
• The part that makes this difficult to solve is that all of them when they install the same Engines in a Mugen or a TC3 their consumption goes above 6 minutes (same engines).

They all had change to Yellow choose and 1.8 hard spring, they say that they are using .5 to .6 gap (can’t verify that) but the end play it is very small almost no play but it turns good.
All of them had the Front Ball Differential with the (802145) Serpent Servo Lever Front Long + Diffring for 710 Install and the new tank with the gold filter.
All the rest are the aluminum options, all had red spring front and rear.

The question is, what could be the cause (setting) that can make the engine consume more because it is really estrange that this same engines in other cars have excellent speed and very good consumption.

Could be gearing and tyre size .

Pyramid 04-04-2005 10:20 AM


Originally posted by lagnaf
When I want to cool down the engine with openning the uper nidlle it yust bogs (fourstrokes) on the straight. But its OK in lower RPM:confused:
Must richen LSN not HSN, you got it the other way around. The richer the LSN, it become more "life"

lagnaf 04-04-2005 10:46 AM


Originally posted by Pyramid
Must richen LSN not HSN, you got it the other way around. The richer the LSN, it become more "life"
Thanks Pyramid,
It's true!
I was closing the LSN.
When I richen LSN, thus it become more"life" in top RPM?

Julius 04-04-2005 11:14 AM


Originally posted by lagnaf
Thanks Pyramid,
It's true!
I was closing the LSN.
When I richen LSN, thus it become more"life" in top RPM?

By richening the LSN you'll have less heat and possibly better low end power. Because the engine get's less hot you'll be able to lean the HSN again giving you more top end power.

lagnaf 04-04-2005 11:48 AM


Originally posted by Julius
By richening the LSN you'll have less heat and possibly better low end power. Because the engine get's less hot you'll be able to lean the HSN again giving you more top end power.
Seems logical to mee :nod:
Thanks Julius :D
Will do that ...

Best regards

Ognjen

markp27 04-04-2005 12:03 PM


Originally posted by Julius
By richening the LSN you'll have less heat and possibly better low end power. Because the engine get's less hot you'll be able to lean the HSN again giving you more top end power.
Julius, do you know the approx factory settings of the Mega.
I was really happy with mine - Rene did a great job of tuning my clutch and engine - ran really perfectly :nod: I think I owe him a crate of best Weizen from Bayern :nod:


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