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InitialD 12-09-2004 07:00 PM


Originally posted by Eddie
You mentioned updating the servo saver , what is the difference and is there an issue with the kit one ?
No issue with the stock kit one. But if your track is a flowing type with high speed sweepers, the newer and longer servo saver has less Ackerman and you'll have more corner speed with that on the car.

For me, I find that the newer servo saver also has a smaller turning radius which is good for smaller and tighter tracks that I run because for the same amount of turn on the Tx, you get more steering throw.


Originally posted by Eddie
How does Serpent customer support compare to other brands ?
I would say that they are pretty good, if not amongst the best. In fact, the customer support coming from Serpent Holland is as good if not better. :nod:

We initially complained about certain parts of the car not being up to par and they responded by making harder and better parts a few months later in their running change. That's what I call service. :nod:

jas 12-09-2004 08:42 PM

Steering and throttle combo
 
Would the KO 2344 (0.13s) as a steering servo be "too slow" for the 710? I already have a 2343 (0.08s) but not sure if I should use hi-torque for steering and hi speed for throttle or the other way around? Or the milliseconds in difference really doesn't matter?
Thanks!

InitialD 12-09-2004 09:19 PM

Re: Steering and throttle combo
 

Originally posted by jas
Would the KO 2344 (0.13s) as a steering servo be "too slow" for the 710? I already have a 2343 (0.08s) but not sure if I should use hi-torque for steering and hi speed for throttle or the other way around? Or the milliseconds in difference really doesn't matter?
Thanks!

Ummm, if PSI Racing was around, he'll definitely point you to the thread he asked Josh Cyrul about the same questions you're asking here. :sweat: :lol: BTW, Josh Cyrul apparently uses 2344 on all of his gas cars (1/8th and 1/10th).

I guess it's personal preference... For me, the 2343 has more than enough torque for 1/8th scale steering servo much less for a 1/10th scale ! Some people cannot drive with a fast servo and slow analog servos are the only way for them. Some people like to get the fastest servo they can get on the steering.

But for throttle brake servo, I would go with high torque servos. And a lot of people will say that for throttle brake servo, go for analog type instead of digital. Less chances of a failure. I believe someone mentioned before that using too fast servos made engine tuning very difficult... :confused:

markp27 12-09-2004 11:19 PM

Re: Forgas State Race
 

Originally posted by impalabob64
Sup guys ,MARK ,D,my 710 brothern been busy ,how is everyone,got a state race this weekend ,i will be running a modified ns3 race, with the new powermax ,header an pipe combo,an will be trying out the rd logics cvds for the frt.The race will be held at the kissimee track, I raced there last month running frt an rear balldiff ,it worked perfect.So tell me whats new out there for our 710s.Oh i seen some rrr out there, they are really fast.
Hi impalabob64,

Long time no hear! :nod:

Well it is deepest winter over here in Germany, so the 710 has been mothballed for a couple of months now :( As for new bits - like D said above, the only real important ones for me are the new rear sway bars and the longer servo saver - nothing much else to consider.

I'll be getting myself the front diff, too - just in case I need it for the Winternats.

Actually, I got myself an RRR to test - I'm not going to be replacing the 710 with it, I just wanted to see what it was like. You can read my build write up here

Have fun at the race :nod: My racing is now limited to Virtual Racing.

Cheers, Mark.

InitialD 12-09-2004 11:36 PM

Re: Re: Forgas State Race
 

Originally posted by markp27
Have fun at the race :nod: My racing is now limited to Virtual Racing.
So you're now "busy" on the PC huh? Gotcha ! http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gif

markp27 12-09-2004 11:38 PM

Re: Re: Re: Forgas State Race
 

Originally posted by InitialD
So you're now "busy" on the PC huh? Gotcha ! http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gif
:eek: Oops, giving me secrets away! :lol: Well, I would be busier on the PC if I had the Winternats track :rolleyes: *cough* *cough* :lol:

Have you tried VRC with the USB thingy yet - it is amazing. I can see I will learn a lot about setup from this "toy" :nod:

InitialD 12-09-2004 11:48 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Forgas State Race
 

Originally posted by markp27
:eek: Oops, giving me secrets away! :lol: Well, I would be busier on the PC if I had the Winternats track :rolleyes: *cough* *cough* :lol:
Perhaps those guys are keeping it for themselves ! :lol:

But I think with the changes that are currently ongoing with the Winternats track, it's pointless to offer it as nobody knows how the track is going to be...


Originally posted by markp27
Have you tried VRC with the USB thingy yet - it is amazing. I can see I will learn a lot about setup from this "toy" :nod:
:blush: I've downloaded it but not installed it yet ! :cry: Too busy with work... I'll get down to ordering one.

You see, on weekends, we have real RC cars to play with... With all the glory of the nitro fuel smoke and sound realism... :lol: :lol: :lol: :D <rub, rub>

markp27 12-10-2004 12:11 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Forgas State Race
 

Originally posted by InitialD
Perhaps those guys are keeping it for themselves ! :lol:
You may very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment :rolleyes:


But I think with the changes that are currently ongoing with the Winternats track, it's pointless to offer it as nobody knows how the track is going to be...
It will still be useful to get a feel for the layout and the driver stand position - I don't think the track layout has changed that much.



:blush: I've downloaded it but not installed it yet ! :cry: Too busy with work... I'll get down to ordering one.
:eek: shame on you!! :lol:


You see, on weekends, we have real RC cars to play with... With all the glory of the nitro fuel smoke and sound realism... :lol: :lol: :lol: :D <rub, rub>
:flaming: :flaming: You had to mention that didn't you :mad:

TitaniumR 12-10-2004 01:41 AM


Originally posted by InitialD



I would say that they are pretty good, if not amongst the best. In fact, the customer support coming from Serpent Holland is as good if not better. :nod:

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I would think that this thread gives the best/fastest 710 support than to go thru mytsn!:nod: :nod: Thanks guys!:nod:

InitialD 12-10-2004 02:22 AM


Originally posted by TitaniumR
I would think that this thread gives the best/fastest 710 support than to go thru mytsn!:nod: :nod: Thanks guys!:nod:
Ssshhh ! :lol:

Hey, are you going to Thailand in January? What about MrChan? :sneaky: He's suppose to show us the ropes and bring us to the power power places... :lol: :lol: :lol: :blush:

crashed_1 12-10-2004 06:34 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
He's suppose to show us the ropes and bring us to the power power places... :lol: :lol: :lol: :blush:
:eek: :eek: :eek:

InitialD 12-10-2004 06:44 AM


Originally posted by crashed_1
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Wooi ! Don't pretend... http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gif

You can stay in the hotel room and isolate yourself if you want. :lol:

crashed_1 12-10-2004 06:52 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
Wooi ! Don't pretend... http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gif

You can stay in the hotel room and isolate yourself if you want. :lol:

http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gifhttp://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gifhttp://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gifhttp://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gifhttp://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...wistedevil.gif

InitialD 12-10-2004 06:57 AM

Bali Open Race - Results
 
A Final - Result:
1 PETER WIDJAJA (Serpent 710) 173 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
2 FAYAKHUN TKI (V1RRR) 165 Laps
3 ALBERT (R40) 159 Laps
4 JEFFRY NINE BALL (Serpent 710) 159 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
5 ARIFIN TAN (Serpent 710) 151 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
6 SADIKIN A.C (V1RRR) 143 Laps
7 DONI AGUNG (FW05R) 140 Laps
8 EVAN SALU (MTX3) 140 Laps
9 RISMAN (Serpent 710) 133 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
10 HERI (Serpent 710) 120 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=10815

Sow&Steady 12-10-2004 11:28 AM

Re: Bali Open Race - Results
 

Originally posted by InitialD
A Final - Result:
1 PETER WIDJAJA (Serpent 710) 173 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
2 FAYAKHUN TKI (V1RRR) 165 Laps
3 ALBERT (R40) 159 Laps
4 JEFFRY NINE BALL (Serpent 710) 159 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
5 ARIFIN TAN (Serpent 710) 151 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
6 SADIKIN A.C (V1RRR) 143 Laps
7 DONI AGUNG (FW05R) 140 Laps
8 EVAN SALU (MTX3) 140 Laps
9 RISMAN (Serpent 710) 133 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif
10 HERI (Serpent 710) 120 Laps http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=10815

The usual suspects! Well done boys! http://www.3hobby.net/images/blocks/...x/icon_bow.gif


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