Well (too), when you go to Australia and buy a genuinely identical souvenir with that country, that is kangaroo (I mean a doll) and you will see in the label : Made in China. And if you buy a banana (this time the real one) the sticker was: Venezuela.
Wake up!! this is a global world.

If Serpents wants to stay like they used to be... fine, I will still drive their car anyway.
But one thing for sure, If company like BOSCH GmbH, Phillips GmbH, and other holland base company did their production outside Holland, mainly to cut the production and distribution cost, Serpent should not think twice about the benefit to do so.

And as long as their tooling quality is not as high as a Tamiya ones, I dont see the reason for not to making it in Taiwan or even China. Remember! we dont buy your car, most of us buy your brand. Please correct me if im wrong.

That is just a point of view form a serpent fan.

I don't see any harm going elsewhere out of EU to set up and relocate production facilities and to further reduce cost because Holland has one of the most expensive labour hours if I'm not mistaken. But the problem here I think is the quantity or amount Serpent produces, it is not enough to warrant a different production location unlike Kyosho or Tamiya. More hassle and moreover R&D department will be far away too.

Actually, he looks like M Salven ... hahahahaaa ... not the dashing looks but the hairline (sorry for being so bad but I could not help it)

Eh, at least I still have hair !!! :flaming: :flaming: :flaming:

Tianci. maybe we should call him "Initial MS" or "MS_Alias" :lol: :lol:

Mr "D", when we talk about the quantity is not enough so can not relocate the production and therefore unable to reduce kit pricing, we will start a debate with title of "which came out first, chisken or egg?".

I dont mean to relocate their production line to foreign country. Just ordering some parts from other country, that will be helpfull enough to reduce their set pricing. After price reduced, then we can talk about quantity without loosing present margin profit.

The conclusion was : talk is easy, isnt it? :D

But your point and my point was a damn good input for Serpent.

No ...You are wrong... because M.Salven actually look like him !! .

ROTFLMAO!!! :lol: :lol: :sweat:

Some little news:
Serpent have had a new prototype readdy for the last winternats but they didn't have the convident in the car they wanted, so they brought out the 705 (just an impulse upgrade) and made a new car (710). They've been testing in on different tracks (fast and technical) and tested in under different conditions.

The 2-speed turns at an slower rate so there is less forge needed to turn it. also 0.8 teeth

It was mentioned that only the tank and the shocks are the same as the 705. I guess the rest of the parts you mentioned are different for the 710.

You claim to have experience with the Serpent parts... I'm curious because if you built one correctly, you will know that every part like the arms for example that are tight fitting and that if you ream and clean out the extra flashes in the holes where the pivot pin goes in with a dremel with a 3 mm drill bit, you'll find that you get all the required parts with the same fit to the pivot pins.

Cool. Thanks for the info.:nod: Do you have any news on the 0.8 module gearing? What is the internal drive ratio of the 710 and what is the final drive ratios with the new 0.8 module spurs and pinions?:D

Julius, can't wait to read about your write up.:D

Just curious... How long have you personally tested and driven the final version of the 710 till today? I assume the design is already final?

Re: 710
 

I've seen one. Looks cool with all the recesses. :nod:

Jack, you are right. If the 710 uses a 33 mm flywheel and a 4 mm chassis, the engine mount has to sit 2 mm lower than on the what the engine is currently sitting on the 705 which is using 35 mm flywheel and a stock 3 mm chassis. I believe earlier on, I mixed up some numbers which was incorrectly posted.

I"m sitting here holding a genuine Serpent cap.....ordered DIRECTLY from Serpent USA........

It says "Made In China" in the inside tag.....

here's a quick question...


We all can see that the diffs are easy access......
Does the front middle shaft and rear 2sp shaft come out just as easy with the diffs,for easy belt changes (like the,dare I say it,HPI R40)??????