Silly season is upon us....
12-16-2016, 09:25 AM
#196
If having the latest and greatest kit, upgrade parts, engine, servos and so on is so unnecessary, why don't you race with your "dated" equipment and show those idiots who's boss? As far as spending a whole weekend racing.... not here in the good old USA. Club racing where I'm at is one day/evening a week. You don't have to have spare kits and high dollar equipment to be accepted and have fun. The only racing that goes all weekend is the once a year "big time" race that brings the pros and all the pressure you speak of. The racing is only as serious as YOU make it. If all you can afford/want to spend gets you a dated vehicle with few spares then there is no one stopping you from racing it. if your so thin skinned that seeing some guy with tons of money wrapped up in the latest/greatest bothers you then you need to check yourself. After all your right about one thing, it's just toy cars! The only ones getting paid are the pros. Winning a race means nothing but bragging rights. I would take plenty of pleasure in pointing out how well I did with cheaper or dated equipment. You don't have to win, to win lol!
12-16-2016, 09:48 AM
#199
Tech Master
12-16-2016, 09:57 AM
#202
Tech Master
Last pic on his FB showed a D815 ironically. Now that Ty is leaving, and HB under new management, what's the chance that he might go back...
12-16-2016, 10:16 AM
#204
Tech Fanatic
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The only help anyone needs is of the self-help variety, i.e. a bit of initiative and normal learning by doing. And, if you're lucky, maybe some nice guys at the local track can help you out… You don't need a paid pro driver. Nobody does. If you truly want to insist that you do, then I would just add that to the list of things that are wrong with RC racing, and it's over-the-top wannabe 'professionalization…
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
12-16-2016, 10:23 AM
#205
Tech Master
12-16-2016, 10:29 AM
#206
The only help anyone needs is of the self-help variety, i.e. a bit of initiative and normal learning by doing. And, if you're lucky, maybe some nice guys at the local track can help you out… You don't need a paid pro driver. Nobody does. If you truly want to insist that you do, then I would just add that to the list of things that are wrong with RC racing, and it's over-the-top wannabe 'professionalization…
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
I used to get into these "arguments" about nitro vs. electric, and noticed in the "arguments" used by nitro-hating electric fans a really oversimplistic mindset, this idea that it has to be plug and play, instant gratification. That anything needing figuring out is bad. Maybe that's what's going on here? You think getting help from a pro is like pressing a button and having all your problems solved for you? That's what it sounds like... Part of the appeal of racing and nitro in particular is that you have a learning curve, that you get better with experience to master something. I fail to share your notion that I have to rely on a "pro" to make my cars run right. That doesn't mean I think I'm an expert. Just that I realize that I have to learn for myself what's what.
And even if that is the case - that you think any problems which arise can only be solved by somebody else, again, it does not have to be a pro. It can be the guy at the next table...
But OK, take the idea that there should be pros at races to help struggling racers. Then what is their priority - helping people, or winning races? If the former, I can much better understand the need for having them. But then you're talking like tennis "pros" at the local country clubs - glorified teachers, basically. Not overpaid Lewis Hamiltons.. Who wins what race means literally zero to the ordinary racer, practically speaking.
12-16-2016, 10:35 AM
#207
Tech Master
The only help anyone needs is of the self-help variety, i.e. a bit of initiative and normal learning by doing. And, if you're lucky, maybe some nice guys at the local track can help you out… You don't need a paid pro driver. Nobody does. If you truly want to insist that you do, then I would just add that to the list of things that are wrong with RC racing, and it's over-the-top wannabe 'professionalization…
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
Dude you may have lost your mind, Pro's can be very helpful. They have saved my race weekends. Like you said some races take up a whole weekend, what if you can't figure your tune out or a terrible set up or a diff that needs help. Lutz and a few others have saved me from wasting my time and money going to these big races when my rigs were not running/driving properly. Pro's help the beginners quite a bit. Not everybody is a master of RC like yourself.
If you are there when the pro helps out, lucky for you. If not, well then there are your fellow race mates and well, google
It just boils down to how much you really like this hobby. Self motivation trumps all others.
12-16-2016, 10:56 AM
#209
Everything a lot of you guys are saying makes sense but this is why I hope Ty goes to Xray.....
Although not having a Top U.S. Pro driver has increased my understanding greatly.
Due to the lack of support online, with setups etc.... That has actually taught me HOW to setup a car. I learned exactly what questions to ask myself is the car doing, on what end of the car is doing it, and what change I need to make to fit my driving style. There are no Xray Pro Driver setups to just go look up and copy.... Their track surfaces are different from ours... so their definition of low, med, and high bite is not the same...
Once you get the basics down, I think Pro drivers can help you really get the most out of the platforms...IF you understand that these cars are designed to be driven at a certain level and /or race pace that most of us can't for whatever reason..... Like the firearm analogy that most guns are more accurate than we the shooters are, same can be said for RC.
I think its great to see the cars being pushed to their full potential by guys who actually have the time/talent and put in the work.... Its actually inspiring....
Although not having a Top U.S. Pro driver has increased my understanding greatly.
Due to the lack of support online, with setups etc.... That has actually taught me HOW to setup a car. I learned exactly what questions to ask myself is the car doing, on what end of the car is doing it, and what change I need to make to fit my driving style. There are no Xray Pro Driver setups to just go look up and copy.... Their track surfaces are different from ours... so their definition of low, med, and high bite is not the same...
Once you get the basics down, I think Pro drivers can help you really get the most out of the platforms...IF you understand that these cars are designed to be driven at a certain level and /or race pace that most of us can't for whatever reason..... Like the firearm analogy that most guns are more accurate than we the shooters are, same can be said for RC.
I think its great to see the cars being pushed to their full potential by guys who actually have the time/talent and put in the work.... Its actually inspiring....
12-16-2016, 11:30 AM
#210
Tech Fanatic
That's awesome! Exactly what I'm talkin about!