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Old 05-29-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by racer1812
so I trolled through all 14 pages of this thread and missed any pics of un-assembled but complete shocks that CRP wants us to spend all this money on. Where are the pics? I obviously missed them.
You can see pics of most of the individual parts on a couple websites

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...cturers_id/817

Amain being one of them.
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I will measure them once I get them. I ordered up some for my 8.2
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See post 246 for up travel fix.


I received my shocks yesterday and have gotten them mounted on my 8.2e.

I am very impressed by the quality and finish, the fit I am not impressed with.

The upper shock bushing required shimming so that the cap does not hit the towers, more so on the rear.

I feel that the compressed length of the shock is a bit long, up travel seems limited.
Pushing the car down the chassis barely touches down and requires a bit of force, and chassis roll is limited before the shocks reach full compression.

The boots/ lower cap do not work as designed, the boots do not breath through the scallop cuts in the lower cap.

I set the shocks up with 25/20 as recommended. On the bench it feels excessively soft, weather permitting we will see how they perform on track this weekend.

My main concern is the limited up travel, we'll see if it is a problem.

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Old 05-30-2013, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 1armed1
I received my shocks yesterday and have gotten them mounted on my 8.2e.

I am very impressed by the quality and finish, the fit I am not impressed with.

The upper shock bushing required shimming so that the cap does not hit the towers, more so on the rear.

I feel that the compressed length of the shock is a bit long, up travel seems limited.
Pushing the car down the chassis barely touches down and requires a bit of force, and chassis roll is limited before the shocks reach full compression.

The boots/ lower cap do not work as designed, the boots do not breath through the scallop cuts in the lower cap.

I set the shocks up with 25/20 as recommended. On the bench it feels excessively soft, weather permitting we will see how they perform on track this weekend.

My main concern is the limited up travel, we'll see if it is a problem.

Dayton
Do you have your shock boots located on the machined hex part of the shock (up past the seal cap) where the CSI shock wrench is used? You should have plenty of up travel. When you compress the chassis flat on the ground you should be able to pull the tires up off the ground. Mine does.
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Photos Of the problem please people?
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Originally Posted by CRP
Do you have your shock boots located on the machined hex part of the shock (up past the seal cap) where the CSI shock wrench is used? You should have plenty of up travel. When you compress the chassis flat on the ground you should be able to pull the tires up off the ground. Mine does.
Eric,
The boots are mounted properly on the lower cap, not the hex on the shock body.
I cut the fronts and let them hang, the rear I captured with the spring retainers and cut a couple small slits to allow them the breath.
I would rather have them sealed.

The shock shafts seem to long for the bodies, the piston will raise past the top of the body even with the lower retainer in place.

I will try to get some pictures this evening.

Dayton

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Originally Posted by 1armed1
Eric,
The boots are mounted properly on the lower cap, not the hex on the shock body.
I cut the fronts and let them hang, the rear I captured with the spring retainers and cut a couple small slits to allow them the breath.
I would rather have them sealed.

The shock shafts seem to long for the bodies, the piston will raise past the top of the body even with the lower retainer in place.

I will try to get some pictures this evening.

Dayton
Dayton,

They should go up on the hex part of the shock (further up). It will give you more travel and the boots will still function as intended.
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Here is a pic of our AE/CSI RC8.2. The suspension is fully compressed and the chassis is flat on a level piece of plexiglass. You can see the amount of up travel when pulling the arm up. CSI shocks caps are designed to have more volume behind the bladder, so they are longer than the AE caps, this is where you are seeing the difference.
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Originally Posted by 1armed1
Eric,
The boots are mounted properly on the lower cap, not the hex on the shock body.
I cut the fronts and let them hang, the rear I captured with the spring retainers and cut a couple small slits to allow them the breath.
I would rather have them sealed.

The shock shafts seem to long for the bodies, the piston will raise past the top of the body even with the lower retainer in place.

I will try to get some pictures this evening.

Dayton
Make sure you screwed the shaft all the way in the shock end.

You should be able capture both front and rear boots where the spring retainer fits on the shock end. No slits needed. I will see if I can get a picture.

Here is a pic of where you want the top of your shock boots.

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Picture of shock boots
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thank you all for the photo's
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Any listing of shock lengths available? Looking like Mugen ones may be close to what i need. Can someone measure up a built set?
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Thanks for the help guys.

I pushed the boots up onto the hex as pictured and captured the fronts with the lower spring perch.
The boot is still sealed and not breathing as they should.
On compression the boots expand like a balloon.

Up travel is better, but with the spring perch and boot in place I only have enough up travel to bottom the chassis out. I can not pick the wheel up any with the chassis pushed down to the table.

Eric,
Response to your pm is on the way.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Maxxed-out
The ae shock end is smooth all the way around, no protrusion for the spring perch to key into.
So... the boot will not breath from there.

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Originally Posted by CRP
Here is a pic of our AE/CSI RC8.2. The suspension is fully compressed and the chassis is flat on a level piece of plexiglass. You can see the amount of up travel when pulling the arm up. CSI shocks caps are designed to have more volume behind the bladder, so they are longer than the AE caps, this is where you are seeing the difference.
My shocks will not travel up that far.
The piston/ nut hit the bladder long before the shock bottom gets to the lower cap.

The rear is worst then the front.

Dayton
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