Mark Pavidis' Team Losi 8ight Buggy
 

http://www.neobuggy.net/images/News/pavtlr.jpg

http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/news...?storyid=10443

I dislike the paint scheme he has but for some reason it looks good on a Losi body. Maybe because kyosho has a wider body so his paint scheme is stretched out more. With the losi body its more together and it looks better. :D

Yeah, it definitely looks better on the Losi body. I remember when I first saw that scheme on the RC10T3...I picked one up based simply on that paint scheme.

Just something about how a buggy/truck looks on the box that will make a middle-school kid want it that much more.

From the OG RC10, to the RC10 Championship Edition...

I think Mark's paint scheme would make any buggy look good. I like it.

And to think, i have the picture of his buggy and truggy body together, hours after they were painted

Ive been in the hobby for a few years and have been following Marks career and to see Marks scheme on a losi just seems strange. LoL

Heres some i took of him on kyosho with that paint scheme. I like it on both
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...akojbrl187.jpg
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...akojbrl009.jpg

TLR or Kyosho his car i think always look good.

Im just curios to see how well mark does with the losi over the kyosho..

+1, however i bet he really doesnt care its only to bring AKA to a USA car market. as it was originaly with kyosho. as far as im aware is kyosho still have a deal with them.

Im sure yes. With Cody on and Tebo in U.S. AKA won't let that go.

Marks scheme is money! He is a real nice guy and I wish him the best of luck with the move to Losi.

Man the memories!! I had 4 of those kits in the picture.

Mark's Losi looks killer!!:nod:

Fancy meeting you here. Rappapaint must be stooked with the Losi connection, new paint all the way from MI.......Nice! I might need to ship some things to him.

BTW, the AKA is painted I believe. Bravo!

I just seen his buggy pics. I wonder why he doesnt have the new radio tray the team is using now.

http://gallery.neobuggy.net/Site-Pho...105051_NSK48Jb

Did not hear Mark switched to Losi. Does he have a set up sheet? Just curious if its different than Drakes?

thats because there are no more new radio trays. there was just enough for the Team at the Nats....

There's an interesting dynamic at play with this deal. MP is a founding member of the AKA group, isn't he? Losi is a tire company (were a tire company before a car company if I recall). If AKA is tied to Kyosho isn't there some sort of conflict of interest?

Other than sponsoring many Kyosho drivers, AKA has not been tied to Kyosho for some time now.

AKA is a separate entity. The future for Kyosho America doesn't look too good, their parts support to local hobby shops has low fulfillment rate.

Yeah, took a step back after they're distributor (Great Planes) parted ways. You put your product up on Tower Hobbies, and you're going to make money.

Remove it, and you're done (unless you're Losi).

Couple that with the fact that your kits are $100-140 more than your competitors, and you're in for low volume...no matter how many races you win.

The price thing is a BS issue. Yea the mp9 TKI2 WC is 800 bucks. But a TLR 8ight 2.0 kit is 580. Then add on having to buy the parts for a shock mod, steering servo saver, and hinge pin plates and you are right around 800. The Kyosho comes with everything, even AL rear hubs.

Gonna have to go with edmond on this one. If you equip any car out there in gonna be up in that range to get all the things that the MP9 comes with. One thing I feel justifies the price is the heritage if Kyosho and world championships. Look at full size cars the ones with a heritage and pedigree demand top dollar and people pay it for that reason.

+1

with the losi that is BS. you do not need anything for the losi, the car is durable and just as capable of winning any race out of the box. i have ONE thing on my car to increase durability, that is the servo saver arm. everything else is preference and not needed what so ever, other kits(not mentioning Manufacture cause then it gets into a war) you have to but multiple parts so you dont break once a day.btw a losi is only 520 btw+ the servo saver arm your only at 540.

also, you dont have to spend an hour boiling all your parts so you can make a race with losi. just saying tho

Losi made cars before coming out with thier line of tires from what I remember. What I find unique is that MP has only been with Losi a week and Losi drivers are already using AKA tires.

http://www.shortcourse.eu/2011/06/cl...-showdown-rd2/

Makes me curious to start using them on my 1/8 scale and 1/10 scale

actually months ago Losi announced they were using AKA for short course

Is that the case for every kit they sell?

Probably not. I understand your point--I just don't agree with it. Let's hypothesize...how many 8ight 2.0 owners you think make the mods you mention? 1 out of 10? 20? 30?

Regardless, all the manufacturers are pretty close in terms of out-of-the-box performance, with the exception of the RC8.

Trust me, I love the attention to detail Kyosho puts into their products...but when I can't find an A-Arm without driving 30 miles, it poses a problem for me. I can go to Hobby People, HobbyTown USA or any other LHS within a 5 mile radius of where I live and find the part I need at a price that I can live with (Associated).

But MAZDA of all brands is raced more often than any other brand. Because people can afford it, and WIN with it. Your argument about heritage and pedigree fetching top dollar is completely true, but it doesn't mean anything. The people who are willing to pay for heritage are usually not the people winning the most races. Maybe the biggest races are won by those prestigious brands, but 99% of us on RCTech aren't winning at national events.

If Ferrari were the only option, motorsport would die overnight.

Heck, you nailed that like a split hog. You're absolutely right. Heritage and pedigree do matter to some...but you don't see Aston Martin dominating LeMans...

That's exactly right.

set-up
 

I would like to see marks set-ups?

I am sorry. I was once one of those that thought Kyosho cost was not worth it. Then in May i built one, and i will tell you. They have a lot of ideas that are built into the MP9 that are very trick, and very well thought out. Remember, Losi was the first company to completely step away from the Kyosho design. Mugen wasn't exactly the same, but still many of the same elements. Losi changed that with the 8ight.

But the Kyosho design works. It is the reason AE copies the geometry and suspension to a T with the newest rc8B variation that won the Nats. Losi is going with the same steering to as it was being tested at the Nats by a few key drivers.

But back to the subject. Mark is a great driver, and even better representative for any company. Losi grew when Mark signed on with them.

That buggy looks great cant wait to see what he does with it. What motor does he have in there? Which OS?

I'm sorry, what did you mean??

I think he meant same. And it is true...we don't see any of the geometry copy-cat stuff...I remember Stephen Bess writing about how the XRAY buggy was basically a Losi clone in terms of geometry.

Sorry, mean to have an M not the L.


The new steering parts are so new, only 4 drivers had them at the Nats. And all of them were pictured with wheels, making it hard to see the different parts.

http://gallery.neobuggy.net/2011Race.../DNC1108-L.jpg

If you look at the bellcranks, you can see the acerman is different then normal. The other parts that are different are the knuckles.

Nice little video of Mark Pavidis with his new TLR Buggy

http://www.neobuggy.net/modules/news...?storyid=10454

Is this a losi thread?

Maybe you should check the geometry on a losi 22 compaired to a B4.1
You might be surprised...