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Old 09-18-2009, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by token
ok - if you are a racer are care about performance - YOU NEED THE PRESSURE LINE -

If its not needed why is it there, why does it make such a huge difference in tuning. I have worked on way to many engines solving problems and it turns out it would not stay running becuase the line had a whole or the nipple on the pipe was broken.

Go head take your 1/8 to the track a TRY to run with out that line. better yet try to start with out the line. I will be here Monday to hear the results. - until then ladies
Think of a straw. A fuel tank is alot like a straw filled with water. If you keep your thumb over the top of the straw no water falls out of the bottom. If you pinch said straw and pull your thunb off, water will flow slowly.

This is why that pressure line is critical. Air deosn't like to flow through pipes at low pressure. ("breathing through a straw") The longer the pressure line the more friction resistance that air has. If fuel can't flow from a sealed tank (straw with thumb over it), you have to let air in.

The reason the pressure line is on the pipe is becuase it prevents fuel spills when upside down, it prevents dirt from clogging your pressure/breather line because their isn't dirt in the pipe, and maybe you can get a little exaust pressure for more constant tuning.

Real cars, old ones at least, used to have breathers on their fuel tanks, When you flipped over your old jeep all your fuel would pour out of the breather. Now real cars have an charcoal canister or sealed evap system that allows air into the tank so fuel can flow but contains the fumes.

I tried a longer pressure line on my old RC8 like one of our faster racers. It flopped loose and hit the flywheel. The flywheel cut a hole the size of my thumb in the pressure line. The only thing I noticed was my car was running slightly leaner from mid to top end.

In airplanes we can't reach the fuel tanks as they are buried in the air frame. We would pump fuel into the tank by poping off the muffler line and pumping into the pressure line to fill the tank. We often forgot to put the line back on, or it got worn and would fall off in flight. Top end got a little leaner, but not much.

Seriously, hook a manometer to your pressure line and rev your engine (works best if you have a load, so hold your tires screeching on the ground with a good amount of throttle or use a prop and an engine stand. Your not going to see much pressure.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by token
ok - if you are a racer are care about performance - YOU NEED THE PRESSURE LINE -
so you're saying Jesse's not a racer?

The pressure line is NOT needed.

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If its not needed why is it there, why does it make such a huge difference in tuning. I have worked on way to many engines solving problems and it turns out it would not stay running becuase the line had a whole or the nipple on the pipe was broken.
An engine that is tuned to run with the pressure line probably won't run well without one, but that doesn't mean it's necessary. You just have to adjust the tune.

As to why it's there: what would happen if there was no opening at all? The engine would draw its internal vacuum and then eventually draw a vacuum in the fuel tank, preventing fuel flow and eventually starve the engine. Rather than having an the tank vented and have fuel possilby leak out, the engineers figured they might as well make good use of the pipe pressure and connect the two.

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Go head take your 1/8 to the track a TRY to run with out that line. better yet try to start with out the line. I will be here Monday to hear the results. - until then ladies
It's already been said that starting it would be difficult, doesn't mean you can't do it.

Thanks for sharing your opinion on the subject. You know what they say about opinions...
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use to run .12 with out a pressure line, havn't tried it on a .21
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so basically pressure line just makes everything easier. starting, tuning. the manufacturers put it there for a reason not just to look cool. so token you are not wrong. all these guys can have fun finishing the main without a pressure line. cause its not worth the 2 dollars to me to not use a pressure line.
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