8ight 2.0 vs 808 vs O'Donnell
#61
Tech Adept
I have another perspective!
For those disagreeing on Losi's wear status:
Maybe some of you see 'worn in' as 'worn out'
And visa versa.
Personally, I like my buggies like a good pair of blue jeans, 'forgiving'.
For those disagreeing on Losi's wear status:
Maybe some of you see 'worn in' as 'worn out'
And visa versa.
Personally, I like my buggies like a good pair of blue jeans, 'forgiving'.
#62
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
Good perspective,
I always thought it was another excuse to blame bad driving on the buggy. Losi is a great buggy with quirks like al other buggys. It just happens to be the one that changed the game with an excellent design. Thats certainly been imitated but not quit able to be duplicated. Did we mention still wining and out performing.
I always thought it was another excuse to blame bad driving on the buggy. Losi is a great buggy with quirks like al other buggys. It just happens to be the one that changed the game with an excellent design. Thats certainly been imitated but not quit able to be duplicated. Did we mention still wining and out performing.
#63
Tech Master
iTrader: (4)
I have driven them all and here is my $.02......
Losi - Innovative and exciting. I did not meet a single driver that did not go faster with this buggy when it was introduced. Years on our current shop buggies and the parts wear is very good. FYI - I run mainly on an indoor track that doeas not have the fine silt and powder that will destroy buggies. We also take careful time towards using special lubes to protect the driveline parts and our shock and other suspension care has decades of learning and attention to details. We did some very interesting things with this car and the 2.0 should be very good. $$
Xray - Copy is the best form of flattery! The materials are impecable. I truely believe these guys stand apart in their attention in this department. The 3mm chassis is the place where I see the wear problem. There are some growing pains with the drive train and motor positioning. The center drive shafts will touch off on the center outdrive cups and harm your gearbox pinion bearings. The motor sits so low it will touch the clutch bell on the chassis if you case a jump hard. Very fast, durable and nimble. Parts can be a little tough in some areas. $$
ODonnell - One here at the track and after a lot of work it just felt like driving an old school car. Watch out! Tebo will be smoking fast in what ever he drives next! This car is quite a bit heavier than both of the previous cars mentioned. Quality looks to be very good but not on par with Xray.
Parts? I have no idea. All of us were about 1/2 to 1 full second slower per lap. 3 expert drivers were doing the driving and testing. ??
Mugen MBX-6 - Out of the box...WOW! Local fast guy picked one up and built it like his old Mugen. It was right on my same lap times with my current car. It weighs in at just around 70g heavier than my Xray ready to roll. Durability should be very good. Price is even better! Parts may be a little more expensive being Mugen. $
Kyosho MP-9 - Steering and the smoothest drive train is still retained. They are very good in this department. The radio box and suspension adjustability are very much improved. Plastics are a little different than what I remember from their past offerings. I have seen some breakage that has my curiosity up. I'm in the plastics business and I would expect this to change. Looks to me like single bad run materials. This car is worth the money considering the package you get when compaired to former offerings. Lap times are very good and will run with my current car. Old Kyosho refined! Very nice. Parts are hard to come by for the time being. $$$!
No one mentioned the Champ! The Hot Bodies car does get around the track very well. Durability and consistancy in the hands of the sportsmen drivers will tell the tale. This chassis is worth looking at for the price. $
Hope this helps.
TEX
<---- I'm sure this is not done yet.
Xray - Copy is the best form of flattery! The materials are impecable. I truely believe these guys stand apart in their attention in this department. The 3mm chassis is the place where I see the wear problem. There are some growing pains with the drive train and motor positioning. The center drive shafts will touch off on the center outdrive cups and harm your gearbox pinion bearings. The motor sits so low it will touch the clutch bell on the chassis if you case a jump hard. Very fast, durable and nimble. Parts can be a little tough in some areas. $$
ODonnell - One here at the track and after a lot of work it just felt like driving an old school car. Watch out! Tebo will be smoking fast in what ever he drives next! This car is quite a bit heavier than both of the previous cars mentioned. Quality looks to be very good but not on par with Xray.
Parts? I have no idea. All of us were about 1/2 to 1 full second slower per lap. 3 expert drivers were doing the driving and testing. ??
Mugen MBX-6 - Out of the box...WOW! Local fast guy picked one up and built it like his old Mugen. It was right on my same lap times with my current car. It weighs in at just around 70g heavier than my Xray ready to roll. Durability should be very good. Price is even better! Parts may be a little more expensive being Mugen. $
Kyosho MP-9 - Steering and the smoothest drive train is still retained. They are very good in this department. The radio box and suspension adjustability are very much improved. Plastics are a little different than what I remember from their past offerings. I have seen some breakage that has my curiosity up. I'm in the plastics business and I would expect this to change. Looks to me like single bad run materials. This car is worth the money considering the package you get when compaired to former offerings. Lap times are very good and will run with my current car. Old Kyosho refined! Very nice. Parts are hard to come by for the time being. $$$!
No one mentioned the Champ! The Hot Bodies car does get around the track very well. Durability and consistancy in the hands of the sportsmen drivers will tell the tale. This chassis is worth looking at for the price. $
Hope this helps.
TEX
<---- I'm sure this is not done yet.
#64
#65
Tech Initiate
its and old kyosho dude! Go find some 7.5 parts and see!
#66
Losi - Innovative and exciting. I did not meet a single driver that did not go faster with this buggy when it was introduced. Years on our current shop buggies and the parts wear is very good. FYI - I run mainly on an indoor track that doeas not have the fine silt and powder that will destroy buggies. We also take careful time towards using special lubes to protect the driveline parts and our shock and other suspension care has decades of learning and attention to details. We did some very interesting things with this car and the 2.0 should be very good. $$
Xray - Copy is the best form of flattery! The materials are impecable. I truely believe these guys stand apart in their attention in this department. The 3mm chassis is the place where I see the wear problem. There are some growing pains with the drive train and motor positioning. The center drive shafts will touch off on the center outdrive cups and harm your gearbox pinion bearings. The motor sits so low it will touch the clutch bell on the chassis if you case a jump hard. Very fast, durable and nimble. Parts can be a little tough in some areas. $$
ODonnell - One here at the track and after a lot of work it just felt like driving an old school car. Watch out! Tebo will be smoking fast in what ever he drives next! This car is quite a bit heavier than both of the previous cars mentioned. Quality looks to be very good but not on par with Xray.
Parts? I have no idea. All of us were about 1/2 to 1 full second slower per lap. 3 expert drivers were doing the driving and testing. ??
Parts? I have no idea. All of us were about 1/2 to 1 full second slower per lap. 3 expert drivers were doing the driving and testing. ??
Mugen MBX-6 - Out of the box...WOW! Local fast guy picked one up and built it like his old Mugen. It was right on my same lap times with my current car. It weighs in at just around 70g heavier than my Xray ready to roll. Durability should be very good. Price is even better! Parts may be a little more expensive being Mugen. $
Kyosho MP-9 - Steering and the smoothest drive train is still retained. They are very good in this department. The radio box and suspension adjustability are very much improved. Plastics are a little different than what I remember from their past offerings. I have seen some breakage that has my curiosity up. I'm in the plastics business and I would expect this to change. Looks to me like single bad run materials. This car is worth the money considering the package you get when compaired to former offerings. Lap times are very good and will run with my current car. Old Kyosho refined! Very nice. Parts are hard to come by for the time being. $$$!
All in all, I think we can all agree that it's the driver that makes the car look good. No matter which car is in question. I think we've all seen a top notch car in the hands of a rookie driver. They turn too late, come into corners too fast and may not be able to setup the car correctly. It's hard to apply your style when you've yet to learn a style.
Regardless, of the cars in question (8ight, 808 or Z01B), there is not one that stands alone as the 'best.' That said, there isn't one that stands alone as being 'junk' either. They are all 'world class' racing buggies.
Any of these buggies would be an excellent choice to race with. It comes down to how much the driver is willing to learn.
Now with all of that said, I still believe that radios, servos, engines and tires make more of a difference than the chassis. I believe that someone getting into racing should buy the 'good stuff' off the bat - including chassis. I've seen many guys racing with a fantastic world class chassis and a cheap radio/servo/engine combo. They fight with setups and complain about tuning to the point that they just quit coming to the races.
Either way you go for chassis, do yourself a favor and buy the top of the line radio and engine. Then, rather than a host of hop-ups (which none of the above truly need) get a selection of tires to choose from. The right tire will make the car shine, no matter what chassis you are driving.
#67