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Old 09-08-2014, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by needknees
ROAR 10.5 only?!? haha
Get that second car running Sam. 13.5 for your first class and Mod for your second! IF we can get Alex to join us, I bet Tim would let us run a Mod 12th class....
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No D3.5? But BJ said.... Well, nevermind... It does seem a bit senseless to buy another 13.5 when most of us have perfectly good paperweights. No worries tho, I guess we can just toss them in a box with all the other paperweights known as brushed motors.
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Originally Posted by needknees
The 17.5t I can understand but from what I gather the 13.5t was not illegal in terms of wire diameter, it was just part of the legal settlement between Trinity and ROAR.
There was a very good reason why it lost its approval. Not just legalese.
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My personal thought is that it is hard enough getting more people to join in the fun in 12th without making the learning curve harder.
It's also hard enough for certain old geezers to handle a 13.5. I was hoping for 17.5!
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:39 AM
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You're hired!! We are going to full USVTA rules for VTA & USGT so that will eliminate the 5.0 FDR in VTA. Just need to check weight, "Blinky" & motors for all classes.
I'd be willing to help, especially considering all of the spare time I have while not prepping for, or racing in, four classes.

I can also provide a scale if you don't have one. And there is absolutely no truth to the rumor that this scale detects my personal transponder number and adjusts the weight reading accordingly.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jasons56
Get that second car running Sam. 13.5 for your first class and Mod for your second! IF we can get Alex to join us, I bet Tim would let us run a Mod 12th class....
Might have to give it a shot... would be tough to go back and forth between the two though, lol.

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There was a very good reason why it lost its approval. Not just legalese.
Can you expand upon that in here? Genuinely curious as to why the 13.5t was banned along with the 17.5t.
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Originally Posted by needknees
Might have to give it a shot... would be tough to go back and forth between the two though, lol.



Can you expand upon that in here? Genuinely curious as to why the 13.5t was banned along with the 17.5t.
So Ernie could sell us all the D4 13.5....
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Originally Posted by howardcano
It's also hard enough for certain old geezers to handle a 13.5. I was hoping for 17.5!
How many slow classes DO you want to race? Mini, VTA, and USGT not enough for ya!

We need at least one class where a single position on/off switch wouldn't work for a throttle....
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So Ernie could sell us all the D4 13.5....
Court side tickets are not cheap:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...fan-finalists/
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Originally Posted by jasons56
How many slow classes DO you want to race? Mini, VTA, and USGT not enough for ya!

We need at least one class where a single position on/off switch wouldn't work for a throttle....
I like to do EVERYTHING slow.

17.5 1/12 scale would turn faster lap times than the second fastest class that I race (USGT), so it's not that slow. They're faster than 17.5 TC, too. (Only one driver in the 17.5 TC class A main at the 2013 IIC turned a lap faster than the slowest driver in the 17.5 1/12 A main.)

Throttle? I thought we were just supposed to wire our cars so they went full-bore any time the power switch was on.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by needknees
Can you expand upon that in here? Genuinely curious as to why the 13.5t was banned along with the 17.5t.
I'd love to, but it would not be appropriate for me to do so.
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Old 09-14-2014, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by howardcano
I like to do EVERYTHING slow.

17.5 1/12 scale would turn faster lap times than the second fastest class that I race (USGT), so it's not that slow. They're faster than 17.5 TC, too. (Only one driver in the 17.5 TC class A main at the 2013 IIC turned a lap faster than the slowest driver in the 17.5 1/12 A main.)

Throttle? I thought we were just supposed to wire our cars so they went full-bore any time the power switch was on.
While they may turn fast laps, I was not a fan of what it felt like to drive one. 12th scales with Lipos have SO much more capability than a single cell 17.5.

If you are too far inside the "traction circle" the dynamics are wrong and it takes too much away from the driving experience.

I've always felt that a class that is totally hooked up and extremely power limited becomes too much of a dyno test. We don't need another class where the position of a label on a motor can give you a couple car lengths on a straight......

Then we would need a serious tech process too. I would LOVE to see an inductance meter show up, if anything else to know what we are up against next time we have a big show in town.
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Old 09-15-2014, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jasons56
Then we would need a serious tech process too. I would LOVE to see an inductance meter show up, if anything else to know what we are up against next time we have a big show in town.
We would want a milliohmmeter, not an inductance meter. But I agree, tech becomes much more important in limited classes.

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Old 09-20-2014, 08:03 AM
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What motors rules will we be running in Mini? ROAR-legal 21.5T only, with timing limited to within the motor labeling?
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What motors rules will we be running in Mini? ROAR-legal 21.5T only, with timing limited to within the motor labeling?
Yes, basically TCS rules HERE.

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