CEN Genesis offical thread
#1
Thread Starter
Tech Adept
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 238
Couldnt find an official thread for this truck so im making one. I think it should include the gst and colossus. E versions included as well.
Ive got almost a roller in the basement im going to build this winter. Id like anyone who has experience with these trucks to chime in. I traded my mgt 8.0 for an rtr gst and the roller i have in my basement. It was a major mistake. But now i only have the roller and i hate seeing it sit there. I love the look of the genesis trucks but parts are hard to get and not cheap. One of the things id like to accomplish with this thread is to find what parts can be used on these trucks from other mt's. For example. The Savage XL Octane big bore shocks seem like a logical choice as an upgrade rather than the 8-10 small bore shock setup that comes stock. Also engine options are limited. I found that the OS Hyper 50 fits as does an evolution 45. This also leads me to believe that an mgt(thunder tiger) .50 will fit. The issue is that the OS and Evolution motors are ringed as well as side exhaust. I cant find much else that is a drop in replacement.
The wieght of the truck contributes to broken a-arms. Although i only broke one the entire time i had my truck. Is there something else that could be substituted? Steering servos take a major beating due to the weight and oem wheel/tire size. I dont recomend using anything less than a 30kg servo. Probably best to stay over 12-13kg for throttle/brakes and reverse. I found that reverse is a terrible PITA to engage. The transmission seems solid but also a pain to adjust(3 speed). Diffs are rock solid. Cases are plastic but very tuff and the internals are HD for sure. Side plates are beauty too.
My main issue with the truck was the motor. Upgrade that and the rest is solid. I also suggest getting rid of the plastic front driveshaft. I swapped out the front with a spare rear steel shaft i had. Never had issues with hubs or carriers, they seem to handle the weight of the truck well.
Anyone else have suggestions?
Ive got almost a roller in the basement im going to build this winter. Id like anyone who has experience with these trucks to chime in. I traded my mgt 8.0 for an rtr gst and the roller i have in my basement. It was a major mistake. But now i only have the roller and i hate seeing it sit there. I love the look of the genesis trucks but parts are hard to get and not cheap. One of the things id like to accomplish with this thread is to find what parts can be used on these trucks from other mt's. For example. The Savage XL Octane big bore shocks seem like a logical choice as an upgrade rather than the 8-10 small bore shock setup that comes stock. Also engine options are limited. I found that the OS Hyper 50 fits as does an evolution 45. This also leads me to believe that an mgt(thunder tiger) .50 will fit. The issue is that the OS and Evolution motors are ringed as well as side exhaust. I cant find much else that is a drop in replacement.
The wieght of the truck contributes to broken a-arms. Although i only broke one the entire time i had my truck. Is there something else that could be substituted? Steering servos take a major beating due to the weight and oem wheel/tire size. I dont recomend using anything less than a 30kg servo. Probably best to stay over 12-13kg for throttle/brakes and reverse. I found that reverse is a terrible PITA to engage. The transmission seems solid but also a pain to adjust(3 speed). Diffs are rock solid. Cases are plastic but very tuff and the internals are HD for sure. Side plates are beauty too.
My main issue with the truck was the motor. Upgrade that and the rest is solid. I also suggest getting rid of the plastic front driveshaft. I swapped out the front with a spare rear steel shaft i had. Never had issues with hubs or carriers, they seem to handle the weight of the truck well.
Anyone else have suggestions?
#2
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Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 43
From: Kamloops BC Canada
Plenty of spares available on ebay and cheap too. You are right about the Cen motor they are not good. I put the Motor from the MGT8.0 into my Gst 7.7 just had to move the exhaust pipe and the fuel tank to the oposite sides, used the tank from the savage.
#5
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 238
Threads are plentiful but i didnt find an "Official Cen Genesis Thread" like every other rc vehicle created has on this site. If it exsists, its hidden somewhere. So heres a new one to give this frustrating, unreliable, massive, intimidating beauty its due. I found it quite aggrivating looking for info when i first got mine. Threads are usually really old. Pics in the threads usually dont work. Theres very few dealers around and shops that can get the parts never stock them so they always have to be ordered.
On the other hand, they are fairly unique, you can almost bet that if you have one, nobody else at the track will have one and many people have never even heard of them.
Ebay has a fair selection of parts and you can usually find what you need i just think pricing could be better. Cheaper aftermarket parts would be nice too. $120 for a set of aluminum arms!!!! Ouch. Though i wouldnt recomend aluminum on this truck.
On the other hand, they are fairly unique, you can almost bet that if you have one, nobody else at the track will have one and many people have never even heard of them.
Ebay has a fair selection of parts and you can usually find what you need i just think pricing could be better. Cheaper aftermarket parts would be nice too. $120 for a set of aluminum arms!!!! Ouch. Though i wouldnt recomend aluminum on this truck.
#6
Tech Initiate
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 43
From: Kamloops BC Canada
Yes i used the Cen pipe with a modified MGT manifold. Will post a pic when i get a spare 5 mins. I also ditched the front plastic telescopic drive shaft, used the front dog bone and outdrive from the Nemisis, was a drop in replacement.
#8
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 238
Looks like you stuck with the mgt roto start? That was my least favourite part of that truck/motor. I couldnt keep the shafts from stripping. Although the cen pull start wasnt much better. I wish i could post pics of mine, i had a full roll cage that was so big that when you put the body on it would only mount at the top holes of the posts. I had it completely jacked up too. Kinda miss the stupid thing now. Ill be building my roller this winter. Might have to try and find that cage again lol
#9
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Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 43
From: Kamloops BC Canada
Have never had any problems with the integral roto start on the thunder tiger motor, When i was running the Cen motor i bought the add on roto start and it stripped within a couple of months. Were you stripping the ball end of the hex shaft on the starter?
#11
Tech Rookie
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 3
Hey guys just got a cen gst about 2 weeks ago. Hadn't ran in probably over a year. Put some gas in it tuned it up and runs fine now. My question is will assocaited monster mgt mt 8.0 rims fit on this. They are 23mm hex but idk what the offset is and if it will interfere if it is zero offset?



