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LLkoolskillet 02-26-2014 05:08 PM

I'm stuck there are to many options but not enough money lol. I think the flux torque only spins to 50k while the castle version is good to 60k. The 2650 can spin higher than the 2200 but lacks some torque. The 1717 has less rpm but a lot more torque and the 2028 is boarder line to much torque

I can pick up the castle version of the 2200 for $105 x2 and a whole 2028/ XL2 combo for $360, and the 2650 for $135 x2. But in order to run 8s for the 2028 I would have to buy matching 2s lipos for my 6s I already have.

Lol I just don't know

Cinnabun 02-26-2014 05:18 PM

Isn't the 2028 like 800kv??

On 8s you'd be looking at ~23k rpm..

With a 1717 on 8s you'd be at ~46k rpm which sounds like where you need to be.

LLkoolskillet 02-26-2014 05:35 PM

how do you guys figure out these rpm figures?

Cinnabun 02-26-2014 06:10 PM

Battery voltage multiplied by kv. I use resting voltage, so 3.7v per cell x 8 cells = 29.6v. Multiply that by the kv and you get the unloaded rpm at that voltage.

LLkoolskillet 02-26-2014 06:20 PM

sorry for the questions but what is resting voltage? why wouldnt you use a full charge?

CerberusVI 02-26-2014 06:49 PM

Compensating for voltage droop, Under load. constant load your battery doesn't sit at full 4.2v a cell, the voltage will sag from fully charged when its being depleted.

Cinnabun 02-26-2014 06:51 PM

I don't use a full charge because at a high amp draw, the batteries usually drop voltage. Again, we're talked unloaded kv as well. Loaded kv will change with weight/gearing/load.

LLkoolskillet 02-26-2014 07:02 PM

I see, well I learned something new tonight :)

RCaddict0 02-26-2014 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by LLkoolskillet (Post 13041623)
Right now I'm running two 2200kv motors with 34/40 gearing and the motors are barely warm. I have a feeling when I drop in my 36/35 setup they will get hot and I'll max out around 110mph.

I've learned you need torque to run taller gearing, the 1717's have that which means I can push taller gearing and go faster. My issue then becomes radio range and gearing.

I think youd be better off running one larger motor. Even one of those can produce insane amounts of power! But I think Kershaw Designs or RC Monster makes things to run big ol beer can sized motors! Sounds bad azz though!

phildoggg 02-27-2014 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 13046354)
I'm going to say no. 8s fully charged will spin a 2200kv to 74,000rpm, well over the 60,000rpm limit. But over revving the motors could be avoided. I'm not sure if you can avoid them melting down though.

The motors free reved might hit those rpm, when i calculate rpm i use battery voltage of 3v/cell. If anyone does speed runs you will see the volts drop that low during a run. I have seen a video of a castle 2200 on 10s before. Also the gearing you are running should hold the rpm back also.

LLkoolskillet 02-27-2014 05:57 PM

I know with nitro the taller the gearing the less rpm, so that's the same here with BL?
How would you figure out the rpm I'm running right now?

sur3fir3 02-27-2014 07:24 PM

LL check this out

http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html

LLkoolskillet 02-27-2014 07:46 PM

At 3.4v on 6s with 34/35 gearing it has me at 44k rpm @ 167mph with 4.15" tires.

Overdriven 02-28-2014 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by phildoggg (Post 13049387)
The motors free reved might hit those rpm, when i calculate rpm i use battery voltage of 3v/cell. If anyone does speed runs you will see the volts drop that low during a run. I have seen a video of a castle 2200 on 10s before. Also the gearing you are running should hold the rpm back also.

I did use much higher volts per cell in my calculations to be overly cautious as far as rpm potential. It's been awhile since I've seen any Eagletree graphs, let alone of a high draw setup (I miss that about RC-Monster) but I'm still surprised the voltage would drop that low. Sounds like boat territory where 2p (parallel) is needed to keep the voltage from dropping too much under load. Although running a higher voltage to start with will lower amp draw and keep the voltage higher. 10s on a Castle 2200? Really? I would've thought the windings couldn't take it for long and self destruct after a few passes. I still wouldn't bash that setup though!

LLkoolskillet 03-02-2014 04:23 PM

What about upgrading to a better battery like Max amps or thunder power instead of the turnigy nanotechs im running?


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