LST2 Single-speed conversion
#1
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So, my second LST2 I had modded for the track, and it actually handles great - near truggy-like.. Muggy shocks, sway bars, wing, truggy tires - that's about it. Anyway, I had over the year or two I ran it TONS of 2-speed issues- so many that I finally gave up and hung the truck up for parts a while back. I've tried to sell the roller a few times, with no luck, and I'm not going to give it away(I'm in Germany, so don't ask to buy it in the States...)
Anyway, I have a ton of LST2 parts, and like having a low maintenance truck I can just throw on the track and not care if it it gets thrashed. Thing is, I don't want to EVER hit the gas again and just have that engine rev with no movement. So I guess that means single-speed. I REALLY like having the shift, and don't like the idea of sacrificing all the low or top end a single-speed will entail, but I see no alternative. The 2-speed IMO just does NOT work with truggy tires. I went through three trannies and a good 3-4 complete 2-speed sets. And it ALWAYS f-ed up. My stock-wheeled basher LST2 has no issues.
Anyway, so what all is required to convert to single-speed? (cheaply and simply..)
Thanks.
Anyway, I have a ton of LST2 parts, and like having a low maintenance truck I can just throw on the track and not care if it it gets thrashed. Thing is, I don't want to EVER hit the gas again and just have that engine rev with no movement. So I guess that means single-speed. I REALLY like having the shift, and don't like the idea of sacrificing all the low or top end a single-speed will entail, but I see no alternative. The 2-speed IMO just does NOT work with truggy tires. I went through three trannies and a good 3-4 complete 2-speed sets. And it ALWAYS f-ed up. My stock-wheeled basher LST2 has no issues.
Anyway, so what all is required to convert to single-speed? (cheaply and simply..)
Thanks.
#3
herrsavage, i am correct in saying i recgonize your handle from lst forums. i am suprised you dont have your lst muggified already. there is alot of info over there on this subject, but like the last poster said tdr "the dude racing" sells a kit if i remeber correct. he makes a special collect to replace the fly wheel and clutch set-up. i dont remember exactly but i believe he also sells a pinion gear that fits on the end of the crank in place of flywheel and cluth. if you cant find it on lst forum go to urc "ultamate r/c" and there is a link to tdr the dude racings website. i cant remember exactly where on urc but it is there. something to do with mgt, i think he makes these kits for the mgt also. anyway hope this helps.
#4
The mount from the Dude can be found here
http://www.tdracingrc.com/
His company is called TD racing (I assume The dude Racing). He makes VERY high quality parts, but they are expensive and since you are in Germany there will be extra costs. In my opinion his mount, although very good, is not worth the money compared to the Losi single speed hub conversion (LOSB3408), which only runs 20 bucks. Also this may be more readily available for you in Germany. IMO the losi hub functions just as good as the Dude's, and it costs a lot less. It doesn't have nearly the bling factor as the Dude's though, so it's all about what your looking for.
Also, dezertracer760, if he is running muggy shocks (and muggy shock towers I assume), then his LST is already Muggified. A Rear shock flip is not really an essential component to a Muggification and is a seperate mod all on it's own (that many people do as a part of their muggifiction).
http://www.tdracingrc.com/
His company is called TD racing (I assume The dude Racing). He makes VERY high quality parts, but they are expensive and since you are in Germany there will be extra costs. In my opinion his mount, although very good, is not worth the money compared to the Losi single speed hub conversion (LOSB3408), which only runs 20 bucks. Also this may be more readily available for you in Germany. IMO the losi hub functions just as good as the Dude's, and it costs a lot less. It doesn't have nearly the bling factor as the Dude's though, so it's all about what your looking for.
Also, dezertracer760, if he is running muggy shocks (and muggy shock towers I assume), then his LST is already Muggified. A Rear shock flip is not really an essential component to a Muggification and is a seperate mod all on it's own (that many people do as a part of their muggifiction).
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Thanks guys. I've heard of The Dude's stuff, but it's good to know that I can get a Losi part much cheaper. I'm much more of a function over fashion kind of RC'er..
Anyway, I'll look into the Losi part. I just really hope I don't lose too much down low or up top. I've never seen a vid of a single-speed LST that looked to me like it was geared right. Normally they look like they are missing a lot up top. I.e. revving high but not really getting anywhere down the straight..
So the one-speed conversion is just a clutch bell?
Anyway, I'll look into the Losi part. I just really hope I don't lose too much down low or up top. I've never seen a vid of a single-speed LST that looked to me like it was geared right. Normally they look like they are missing a lot up top. I.e. revving high but not really getting anywhere down the straight..
So the one-speed conversion is just a clutch bell?
#7
The single speed hub conversion does not replace your clutch bell or clutch. The single speed hub is for your spur gear. As far as I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong here guys), you can run the stock clutch bell with the single speed hub. I run a E-LST so I can't give you an informed opinion on that. If you want my opinion, bite the bullet and convert that dog to an E-LST. You won't be disappointed with the top or bottum end with a single speed hub if you go BL, I can assure you of that
#8
Here is the Losi hub. You can see how it keys right onto where the 2 speed clutch normally does. You can see there is no way for it to slip. I dont feel like you could get quite as good of performance with the single speed as with a 2 speed because you will always either have to sacrafice either some torque on the bottom or some speed on top; or a little of both. However, you may be able to sacrafice some bottom end since once you get moving on the track, you shouldnt have to take off from a dead stop much and so it shouldnt hurt the bottom side too much.
http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...ub-cln-/Detail
http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...ub-cln-/Detail
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Electric?? Eewww.. JK - to each his own.. (just that, my "own" will never be electric ha ha..)
Thanks cummins. If that 20-buck piece is all that's needed, I think I might have to at least try it.
So then I guess you're just giving up first gear?
Thanks cummins. If that 20-buck piece is all that's needed, I think I might have to at least try it.
So then I guess you're just giving up first gear?
#10
Herr it will work great with truggy tires and single speed setup. I remember my race LST2: single speed, +2 pinions, Fioroni clutch(that very same you bought of of me) and a stock gold head mach 427.
That thing was a wheelie machine. I had a video of it on putfile, but it's gone since they were shot down.
That thing was a wheelie machine. I had a video of it on putfile, but it's gone since they were shot down.
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hmmmm,this is stange,i made my lst2 a single speed tranny back in 07 and have race alot of race and went to the truck nats in 08 in AZ.
ive never had a problem with it and it still has plenty of low end torque
i'm suprised that there are still people out there that havnt done this.
ross
ive never had a problem with it and it still has plenty of low end torque
i'm suprised that there are still people out there that havnt done this.
ross
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I just never wanted to do it because I like the 2-speed shift. I had to find out though, with lots of hassle, stress, and expense, that an LST2 with light truggy tires just doesn't work. Maybe for some, but not for me. But now the market for 2nd hand LST2's is about nothing, so as I said - not gonna' give it away. So might as well try to get it up and running again for as cheaply as possible. Even though I don't like the loss of speed that comes from converting to single speed.
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I just took my basher out for a spin - probably second time this year... And man it was a blast. Big Red 28, ran a bit fat and hot, but man low maintenance and with those huge two-ton stock wheels, the truck gets up and goes on top-end.. Gets this like freight train momentum, which with the whining engine is just cool.. Was good fun. And yeah, the 2-speed was part of it... But yeah, my 2nd LST2 is just for the track anyway, so the 2-speed is no big deal.
My basher btw is nearing four years old.. Somewhere north of 10 gallons.., and very little has been replaced.. - including the 2-speed I think.
My basher btw is nearing four years old.. Somewhere north of 10 gallons.., and very little has been replaced.. - including the 2-speed I think.


