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gulfexports159 08-30-2009 08:33 AM

E-MAXX OR E-REVO?
 
Wondering which I should get? I have a T-MAXX now but tired of nitro and wondering which electric monster I should go with? Let me know! Thanks!

sickpuppy1 08-30-2009 08:59 AM

Racing or bashing? Bashing e-maxx maybe racing Revo. And really the Revo would probably do better at both. Parts are more plentyfull and its cooler looking.LOL, but what do I know, I drive a Losi........never a Traxxas

snowboard094 08-30-2009 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by gulfexports159 (Post 6277184)
Wondering which I should get? I have a T-MAXX now but tired of nitro and wondering which electric monster I should go with? Let me know! Thanks!

the e revo is a better jumper and handles better. The revo also has stronger diffs and drivetrain (unlike the e-maxx). Both are water proof and very bash-able. If you have the $$ go with the revo for sure.

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by snowboard094 (Post 6277290)
the e revo is a better jumper and handles better. The revo also has stronger diffs and drivetrain (unlike the e-maxx). Both are water proof and very bash-able. If you have the $$ go with the revo for sure.

Ugh I hate the Revo. It's like they tried to be different so hard, they came up with the ugliest design of a truck they could think of.

Go with the Emaxx, much much more fun when it comes to after market support. It can still go brushless with the new version without worrying, and a FLM/Gorilla Maxx will demolish ANY Revo.

BashemSmashem 08-30-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6278632)
Ugh I hate the Revo. It's like they tried to be different so hard, they came up with the ugliest design of a truck they could think of.

Go with the Emaxx, much much more fun when it comes to after market support. It can still go brushless with the new version without worrying, and a FLM/Gorilla Maxx will demolish ANY Revo.

Are you serious ? Who cares how the REVO looks as long as it performs and with as many wins as the REVO has racked up its pretty obvious it does .....

The E MAXX is dated and needs alot of modding to be competitive , the E REVO only needs a tire change .

I would get the brushless E REVO from the start , you get a 2.4Ghz radio , 17mm hubs , and the MMM 2200Kv brushless ESC/motor , MUCH more powerful and more reliable than the brushed version . And it will be cheaper in the long run .

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by BashemSmashem (Post 6278766)
Are you serious ? Who cares how the REVO looks as long as it performs and with as many wins as the REVO has racked up its pretty obvious it does .....

The E MAXX is dated and needs alot of modding to be competitive , the E REVO only needs a tire change .

I would get the brushless E REVO from the start , you get a 2.4Ghz radio , 17mm hubs , and the MMM 2200Kv brushless ESC/motor , MUCH more powerful and more reliable than the brushed version . And it will be cheaper in the long run .

Did you just say 'cheaper in the long run'? going BL, especially out of the box, is NOT cheaper in the long run, not by a long shot. Give us the same amount of money, and I'll build a BL Emaxx that will be faster than your Revo dollar for dollar.

snowboard094 08-30-2009 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6278876)
Did you just say 'cheaper in the long run'? going BL, especially out of the box, is NOT cheaper in the long run, not by a long shot. Give us the same amount of money, and I'll build a BL Emaxx that will be faster than your Revo dollar for dollar.

probably not cheaper in the long run but so worth it. There is a reason that almost all 1/8th tracks are dominated by the revo. You will almost never see a t-maxx or e-maxx on the race track in most cases. Don't get me wrong, i like the e-maxx, and sure you can get it to handle better than a revo with some serious $$$$, but it is made to primarily bash. The maxx series has two times the after market support than the revo, so if you like to customize then go for the maxx. If you like to race/bash get the revo.

Brad.R 08-30-2009 06:50 PM

savage flux:nod::tire::nod:

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by snowboard094 (Post 6278950)
probably not cheaper in the long run but so worth it. There is a reason that almost all 1/8th tracks are dominated by the revo. You will almost never see a t-maxx or e-maxx on the race track in most cases. Don't get me wrong, i like the e-maxx, and sure you can get it to handle better than a revo with some serious $$$$, but it is made to primarily bash. The maxx series has two times the after market support than the revo, so if you like to customize then go for the maxx. If you like to race/bash get the revo.

Ok, not to be a buster on the Revo, everyone has their own choice of MT. If the Revo was so good, it wouldn't have gotten smashed so bad by TWO LSTs. Also, the Australian Nationals were won by a SAVAGE. The Revo isn't the only MT that can race, not even close. Unfortunately the Savage needs a 130$ upgrade + new TVPS + new shock setup to become competitive lol.

I agree the Emaxx is primarily for bashing, but I'd still choose it if I was still choosing based off racing, I'd go the Emaxx route, buy a used roller, and start from there. 2200KV BL is way to strong for REAL racing anyways.

snowboard094 08-30-2009 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6278992)
Ok, not to be a buster on the Revo, everyone has their own choice of MT. If the Revo was so good, it wouldn't have gotten smashed so bad by TWO LSTs. Also, the Australian Nationals were won by a SAVAGE. The Revo isn't the only MT that can race, not even close. Unfortunately the Savage needs a 130$ upgrade + new TVPS + new shock setup to become competitive lol.

I agree the Emaxx is primarily for bashing, but I'd still choose it if I was still choosing based off racing, I'd go the Emaxx route, buy a used roller, and start from there. 2200KV BL is way to strong for REAL racing anyways.

Any mt can beat a revo with alot of $$ and a good driver. But stock to stock the revo is one of a kind on the track. Honestly, how much do you think savagesam has in his super savage?

The MMM is completely tunable so you can tune the power down a bit or course.

BashemSmashem 08-30-2009 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6278876)
Did you just say 'cheaper in the long run'? going BL, especially out of the box, is NOT cheaper in the long run, not by a long shot. Give us the same amount of money, and I'll build a BL Emaxx that will be faster than your Revo dollar for dollar.


Ok , you buy and RTR brushed E REVO or E MAXX , buy NiMh batteries and a charger , drive it for a while , burning up motors and toasting NiMh batteries (though the E MAXX isnt as hard on its batteries from what I have heard) and after you get bored with how slow it is (and it is pretty slow) you get a MMM combo , but you also need a 2.4Ghz radio , plus the NiMh batteries wont be good enough for the brushless system so you need LiPo's , guess what that NiMh charger is no good now so you will need a new charger ......

snowboard094 08-30-2009 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by BashemSmashem (Post 6279093)
Ok , you buy and RTR brushed E REVO or E MAXX , buy NiMh batteries and a charger , drive it for a while , burning up motors and toasting NiMh batteries (though the E MAXX isnt as hard on its batteries from what I have heard) and after you get bored with how slow it is (and it is pretty slow) you get a MMM combo , but you also need a 2.4Ghz radio , plus the NiMh batteries wont be good enough for the brushless system so you need LiPo's , guess what that NiMh charger is no good now so you will need a new charger ......

and upgraded diffs, cvd's, and tranny..............

Big Midget 08-30-2009 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by snowboard094 (Post 6279208)
and upgraded diffs, cvd's, and tranny..............

:confused: Why upgrade those parts on a 3905 they're ready to go brushless ready. I had one with the Castle MMM on 4s no issues at all.

He's never said what he's going to be doing with his future truck.....:tire:

I personally cant stand the Revo's never have. I hate the damn things!!
every version traxxas has ever put out.
They're great racers with a mere tire swap is totally true, stock with a good brushless set up. They're very very durable in stock form compared to the 3905 Maxx's for bashing.
I like my stock 3905 E-Maxx way better (bashing) even though its an upgrade whore to make it a durable basher. Control arms, big bore shocks,TT hinge pins and so on but I love truck.

I say:
as far saving some $$$

Racing: Revo
Racing and bashing: Revo
Just bashing, Check out the Flux!! :nod: or stick with a Revo.
I guess the 3905 is my personal preference, never had a Flux at least not yet.
my 2 cents :D

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by BashemSmashem (Post 6279093)
Ok , you buy and RTR brushed E REVO or E MAXX , buy NiMh batteries and a charger , drive it for a while , burning up motors and toasting NiMh batteries (though the E MAXX isnt as hard on its batteries from what I have heard) and after you get bored with how slow it is (and it is pretty slow) you get a MMM combo , but you also need a 2.4Ghz radio , plus the NiMh batteries wont be good enough for the brushless system so you need LiPo's , guess what that NiMh charger is no good now so you will need a new charger ......

Ok, I'm glad your only knowledge of BL is MMM. It makes this easy in deciding on not trying to explain simple setups to you. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking from this whole topic.


I guess the 3905 is my personal preference, never had a Flux at least not yet.
You do notice I'd also rather have the Emaxx right? lol.

Big Midget 08-30-2009 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6279529)
Ok, I'm glad your only knowledge of BL is MMM. It makes this easy in deciding on not trying to explain simple setups to you. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking from this whole topic.



You do notice I'd also rather have the Emaxx right? lol.

Yep :nod: That leaves something to be said for the E-Maxx :cool:

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Big Midget (Post 6279560)
Yep :nod: That leaves something to be said for the E-Maxx :cool:

I laugh at people that think these 1/10th scale MTs need a 2200kv BL motor :rolleyes: There is a difference between overkill and balanced power.

drive2survive 08-30-2009 09:01 PM

have seen alotta E-maxxes for sale recently, Im thinking no one likes to mess with 2 bat packs? or is thier something else wrong?

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by drive2survive (Post 6279581)
have seen alotta E-maxxes for sale recently, Im thinking no one likes to mess with 2 bat packs? or is thier something else wrong?

ERevo, Summit, and Flux all require two packs. It's basic advertising, Traxxas wants to sell their more profitable vehicle and advertises it accordingly. I'm going to take advantage of this though and pick up a used Emaxx roller once my Savage is done.

BashemSmashem 08-30-2009 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6279529)
Ok, I'm glad your only knowledge of BL is MMM. It makes this easy in deciding on not trying to explain simple setups to you. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking from this whole topic.



You do notice I'd also rather have the Emaxx right? lol.


Whatever , you seem to have a mad on for REVO's so they will never be any good in your eyes . I have several brushless trucks all with different systems in them so no explaining needed here bud :rolleyes: ....

CaseyDDR 08-30-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by BashemSmashem (Post 6279685)
Whatever , you seem to have a mad on for REVO's so they will never be any good in your eyes . I have several brushless trucks all with different systems in them so no explaining needed here bud :rolleyes: ....

What do you have, several 540can size BL systems, or wait, something 380 for the minis? Claim you have all you want, I don't care, it means nothing. I can just realize the Revo isn't near as good as Traxxas worshipers claim.

snowboard094 08-30-2009 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Big Midget (Post 6279435)
:confused: Why upgrade those parts on a 3905 they're ready to go brushless ready. I had one with the Castle MMM on 4s no issues at all.

He's never said what he's going to be doing with his future truck.....:tire:

I personally cant stand the Revo's never have. I hate the damn things!!
every version traxxas has ever put out.
They're great racers with a mere tire swap is totally true, stock with a good brushless set up. They're very very durable in stock form compared to the 3905 Maxx's for bashing.
I like my stock 3905 E-Maxx way better (bashing) even though its an upgrade whore to make it a durable basher. Control arms, big bore shocks,TT hinge pins and so on but I love truck.

I say:
as far saving some $$$

Racing: Revo
Racing and bashing: Revo
Just bashing, Check out the Flux!! :nod: or stick with a Revo.
I guess the 3905 is my personal preference, never had a Flux at least not yet.
my 2 cents :D

I owned and raced an e-maxx with the MMM combo. I had a 4s setup and a 6s setup. Even with the power tuned down i still shredded the diffs and drive shafts. Then i had to blow more money on RR diffs (2) and cvds. Later on i also had tranny problems running on 6s. If you aren't running BL then don't worry, if you plan on BL get the e revo. It was not brushless ready, maybe with a 1/10th scale system but not a MMM. The bottom line is that the revo is better made!!!!!!

BashemSmashem 08-30-2009 10:05 PM


What do you have, several 540can size BL systems, or wait, something 380 for the minis? Claim you have all you want, I don't care, it means nothing. I can just realize the Revo isn't near as good as Traxxas worshipers claim.


Gee , it must be wonderful to know it all :rolleyes:

I guess thats why you put that Axial .28 into your Savage (that you needed to put Losi shocks on to get the suspension right) ?:lol:

Big Midget 08-30-2009 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by drive2survive (Post 6279581)
have seen alotta E-maxxes for sale recently, Im thinking no one likes to mess with 2 bat packs? or is thier something else wrong?

No nothings wrong. E-maxx's and T-maxx's are a dime a dozen like a chevy 350. There's alot of them out there.
BUT try to fit one 4s pack in a E-Revo.....probably not gonna happen.

Big Midget 08-30-2009 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by snowboard094 (Post 6279785)
I owned and raced an e-maxx with the MMM combo. I had a 4s setup and a 6s setup. Even with the power tuned down i still shredded the diffs and drive shafts. Then i had to blow more money on RR diffs (2) and cvds. Later on i also had tranny problems running on 6s. If you aren't running BL then don't worry, if you plan on BL get the e revo. It was not brushless ready, maybe with a 1/10th scale system but not a MMM. The bottom line is that the revo is better made!!!!!!

I was running the Castle Mamba Monster Maxx setup on 4s never ever had any issues never tried 6s. Maybe you got a lemon E-maxx or maybe the e-maxx is just not a racer (probably not a racer). Running 6s on the revo or the e-maxx you'll diffenitly shredd somethings sooner or later :nod:

dont get me wrong I'm not saying the revo is a POS MT not at all its the best bang for your buck vs. the e-maxx. I'll agree the revo is better made. I just never liked them. ever!!
I really hate how the batts fit the e-revo. plus its a revo.

Big Midget 08-30-2009 10:33 PM

I bet the poor guy that started this thread is like ''Damn sorry I asked"" :lol:

don74 08-30-2009 11:49 PM

Read this-
 

Originally Posted by gulfexports159 (Post 6277184)
Wondering which I should get? I have a T-MAXX now but tired of nitro and wondering which electric monster I should go with? Let me know! Thanks!

Here's a link to a more objective discussion, starting with post #232 ending at #238. This will surely help.-
http://www.rctech.net/forum/monster-...thread-16.html

If you're going with the E-Revo then you may want to consider the ERBE (E-Revo Brushless Edition) which is better overall value due to the BL system & the 2.4Ghz radio.

I also have the Savage Flux which is a great for bashing but will never race as good as the ERBE.

CaseyDDR 08-31-2009 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by don74 (Post 6279997)
Here's a link to a more objective discussion, starting with post #232 ending at #238. This will surely help.-
http://www.rctech.net/forum/monster-...thread-16.html

If you're going with the E-Revo then you may want to consider the ERBE (E-Revo Brushless Edition) which is better overall value due to the BL system & the 2.4Ghz radio.

I also have the Savage Flux which is a great for bashing but will never race as good as the ERBE.

Apparently the Savage Suspension Conversion is a complete dreamhouse and makes the Savage handle beautifully, you should check it out. It'll work for your flux. Turns the best basher into a mean racer also, w/o sacrificing durability like the Revo.

Nautilus 09-01-2009 12:20 AM

Hands down the revo. Reason: that suspension. Its a lcg design, but has articulation as good as *any* truck out there. The E-Maxx on the other hand is extremely primitive by comparison and isn't nearly as agile.

And let's be honest, they are BOTH capable of handling insane jumps.

They have the same drivetrain, so that's a nonfactor. I own a nitro revo (in the process of being converted into an E-Revo witha Kershaw Design's chassis) and a 3905 on brushless 4s and 6s. The Revo is just a far superior machine. The REVO is Traxxas's best design by far, and I doubt they will ever match it in terms of what it did for the company. If you are only going to own one Traxxas product ever, it should be a Revo, IMO.

Between the E-Revo brushless and the Savage Flux though, I'm not as sure. The Flux is built way better than the 3905 stock. I like the beefy diffs as well (this is offset by the Savage's weight though, which ain't so kind to diffs during extreme acceleration.) The stock diffs sound like they blow just as often as Revo diffs on 6S with a 2000+ motor. My advice if you are going 6s is only to do so if you're using a low kV motor. Otherwise turn down the punch on the esc, especially on high traction surfaces, or else use some self restraint during accelerating from a standstill. It's just physics.

CaseyDDR 09-01-2009 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 6285155)
Hands down the revo. Reason: that suspension. Its a lcg design, but has articulation as good as *any* truck out there. The E-Maxx on the other hand is extremely primitive by comparison and isn't nearly as agile.

And let's be honest, they are BOTH capable of handling insane jumps.

They have the same drivetrain, so that's a nonfactor. I own a nitro revo (in the process of being converted into an E-Revo witha Kershaw Design's chassis) and a 3905 on brushless 4s and 6s. The Revo is just a far superior machine. The REVO is Traxxas's best design by far, and I doubt they will ever match it in terms of what it did for the company. If you are only going to own one Traxxas product ever, it should be a Revo, IMO.

It's so funny hearing this, I was so happy to get rid of my Revo 3.3. I absolutely hated it and it's design. To each their own though.

Nautilus 09-01-2009 12:50 AM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6285171)
It's so funny hearing this, I was so happy to get rid of my Revo 3.3. I absolutely hated it and it's design. To each their own though.

What about it did you not like (other than the fact that it was nitro)?

CaseyDDR 09-01-2009 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 6285209)
What about it did you not like (other than the fact that it was nitro)?

Has nothing to do with it being Nitro, I have wayyyyy to much money into my Savage to the point of it's basically unupgradeable anymore lol, at least anything basic.

I hated the layout, the shock setup is gimmicky at best, if it were so good it would have been used already or now by others. It's extremely difficult to work on compared to ANYTHING else out there. It is god awful ugly. The layout is not clean and jumbled. It isn't as durable as some ppl try to claim, I really wonder what some call 'bashing'. Stock it is underpowered for anything but racing (the nitro). The body is disgusting on both versions.

Nautilus 09-01-2009 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by CaseyDDR (Post 6285214)
Has nothing to do with it being Nitro, I have wayyyyy to much money into my Savage to the point of it's basically unupgradeable anymore lol, at least anything basic.

I hated the layout, the shock setup is gimmicky at best, if it were so good it would have been used already or now by others. It's extremely difficult to work on compared to ANYTHING else out there. It is god awful ugly. The layout is not clean and jumbled. It isn't as durable as some ppl try to claim, I really wonder what some call 'bashing'. Stock it is underpowered for anything but racing (the nitro). The body is disgusting on both versions.

Part of it is fabrication cost and R&D for a chassis that can be set up for on-board shocks capable of that amount of articulation. IMO, the Revo is just a well-engineered piece of machinery and not a lot of companies can support the start up cost for a design like that that actually functions well, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, it is not perfect, but in terms of all around ability for a MT, I think it's the best MT out today, at least by a hair.

I'm about to pick up a Savage Flux myself. I don't think the 3905 is in the same league as the Savage or the Revo though, and that is ultimately the answer to his question.

CaseyDDR 09-01-2009 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 6285239)
Part of it is fabrication cost and R&D for a chassis that can be set up for on-board shocks capable of that amount of articulation. IMO, the Revo is just a well-engineered piece of machinery and not a lot of companies can support the start up cost for a design like that that actually functions well, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, it is not perfect, but in terms of all around ability for a MT, I think it's the best MT out today, at least by a hair.

I'm about to pick up a Savage Flux myself. I don't think the 3905 is in the same league as the Savage or the Revo though, and that is ultimately the answer to his question.

Not that we have any numbers, but I highly doubt Traxxas is the 'highest' gross income company of all of them. They don't have their foot in near as many markets as say Losi, AE, OFNA, Thunder Tiger, Kyosho, HPI, etc. Traxxas specializes in just one thing, ENTRY LEVEL R/C vehicles. Now somebody is going to say, "harhar, the Revo is the bestest MT racerr their is!" which is HIGHLY debate-able.

So just saying it's R&D costs is a bit ridiculous. Doing something different doesn't make it better.

swirlvike666 09-01-2009 04:53 AM

the slash has conventional shock set up and only 2 wheel drive.
slayer has revo style. your post makes no sence.

CaseyDDR 09-01-2009 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by swirlvike666 (Post 6285676)
the slash has conventional shock set up and only 2 wheel drive.
slayer has revo style. your post makes no sence.

mini-slash does, my bad for not specifying, also it's way to early.

swirlvike666 09-01-2009 06:38 AM

ok so if you were talking bout the mini i still dont see what your getting at. your comparing a 1/16 truck to a 1/10 truck right sc10. yea they need their own class. im not trying to bust your ball but understand

boomgagem 09-01-2009 11:22 AM

Casey, you really think Traxxas isn't the highest grossing company? They are for the exact reason you said, they market entry level hobbyists. There is no hobby shop that doesn't carry their parts, and they sell!

I do see where you're coming from though. But for what the revo is, it is simply the best in that category. I don't know anything about electric, so I'm not going to pretend I do, but I know plenty about nitro. I agree on most of your parts about the revo that are weak.

The first thing to do when buying a nitro revo is get rid of the 3.3 and that stupid ez start.

I don't understand why so many people hate on traxxas, but I'm starting to believe it is because traxxas is the "walmart" of RC. They offer RTR Trucks that are pretty good quality for less.

I also believe that if traxxas wanted to, they could develop a 8th scale buggy/truggy that would compete with any other company out there, they just choose not to. And why would they? They pretty much have a monopoly on the MT class, 7 out of 10 MT sold are traxxas.

I think working on the Revo is a breeze, it's pretty simple. Again I agree on some parts are cheap, and break, but is there a RTR MT that is perfect? All of them have flaws.

You can go from a very good race MT, to damn near a crawler. And aside from shock oils you get everything needed to do that when you buy the truck. All that needs done is a swap of the rockers and springs and some adjustments.

Some people just want to buy a truck and have fun, without spending the $500 extra to make a savage race ready. With all that being said here is what I say

If you are racing, hands down the revo.
If you are bashing only - Savage or Revo. I believe the savage is more durable when bashing, although the revo is fine, Savage gets my vote there
If you are wanting to build a shelf queen, get a Maxx. The aftermarket is unbelievable for the maxx trucks

cyclone x 09-01-2009 01:14 PM

really u should go with the savage flux but out of thoose two the e revo because its brushless

sand viper 09-01-2009 02:59 PM

i would NEVER go with a savage they are just too akward, heavy, big, and tippy they stand not a chance on a track against a revo or erevo. The only reason i would suggest maybe gettting a savage is because they are as tough as nails but thats about it... Now out of a e-maxx or an erevo go with the erevo dude you wont be disapointed.

Mattman1147 09-01-2009 04:53 PM

just tossing this won e out i have a e revo for sale or trade


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