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Bit_Rusty 07-31-2006 11:31 PM

168 gram saving yes....

But 168 grams right where you dont want it!! Rotating mass is the key.

Lower rotating mass in driveline = snappier response from engine!

sharkman 08-01-2006 01:24 PM

What do you mean its not where you want it. Any weight savings on a 10+ pound truck is a positive.

Your post seems to contradict itself. Why would you not want to lose 168 grams out of the tranny. We are not racing 1/12 pan cars where the heavier tranny would keep your momentum going, these trucks need no help there.
You are right that mass in important in that a lighter tranny will help engine response, but again weight savings are weight savings.

gatermaxx 08-01-2006 01:36 PM

what he is saying is the 168 grams of weight to lose is where you do not want that extra weight anyways. Do not forget that when you make it forward only you are also loosing a servo's worth of weight as well.
" 168 gram saving yes....

But 168 grams right where you dont want it!! Rotating mass is the key.

Lower rotating mass in driveline = snappier response from engine!"

Add a few words -But that 168 grams is right where you don't want it!!
HTH
Rod

Bit_Rusty 08-01-2006 04:05 PM

Hehe, yeah thanks rod - exactly what i meant.

Amazing how much difference 6 letters makes to context :smile:

Being an aussie, my native tounge is metric - so a 168 gram weight reduction in a 4.5kg truck is something along the lines of 3% of the total truck's weight.

If it were weight reduction from the chassis, frankly i wouldnt bother unless i could get something more substantial... but from the driveline, that's a big difference on the rotating mass and a fair bit of load off the motor.

Big difference for a two stroke which doesnt really like load in its lower RPM ranges.

sharkman 08-01-2006 04:14 PM

Had a feeling, just making sure. sorry for the confusion. ;)

Actually, 168 is with servo I believe. Check out this page:

http://www.fatbearscave.net/lst/weight.htm

Great site w/alot of useful info

2DMaxLST 08-01-2006 04:50 PM

Aw, that is a great site. I was trying to figure out where the 168g was coming from, it must be the servo also. I was weighing my bench FOC tranny against a full on tranny. In the LST1/2 you not only remove reverse but you remove the high low gears also. :D


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